what exactly is the purpose of prime TV? is it just to entertain people living in the west?
I beilieve during current situation this media can be used to promote the real Islam. I am not talking about da’awa here…all i am saying is that people here in west are quite ignorant when it comes to Islam, and they need to know what exactly it means…and why/how being a muslim doesnt mean the person is a terrorist…or atleast help them correct their misconcpetions about islam.
i understand the target viewers of this service is almost all DESIS, but still there are many youngsters (born and raised in the west) who have doubts about their own beliefs…and i think this media can really help them understand what they believe in.
Sir, have you ever watched Prime TV???? there are some very nice
relegious programmes plus five times of Azan. Tafham-e-din, Roshni,
Al-Quran, Tilawaat are some of the really informative relgious programme that usually on air when you turn on you tevo. And there
are numerous other religious programmes for which you can get the
sechedule from www.prime-tv.com
If you want to make a religious programme, why can't it be fun to watch? Also, someone standing in front of a camera reciting a Quranic verse is not going to improve anything.
I would say that Tafhim show is the only interesting one, but even there, I still fee the guy talks in too high Urdu and is a very uninteresting speaker.
what kind of presentation do you want in a religious programme.
Glamour, glamour, glamour, is this what you all crave for. Do you
want a person saying Naat in front of a camara, standing still, wearing
shalwar kameez, to wear shorts and a hawaian shirt???, lots of clourful
backgrounds with palm tress???? is this what you want in a religous
programme???
The fact of the matter is that you don't want to see any religous programme.
Regardless of the matter, if they are glamrous or non glamrous, devoid or quality or not dovoid of quality.
I'm sorry but your brain has been corrupted from the excess of watching indian channels. I see yet another Pakistani victim of indian
culuture and propaganda.
So here's a tip, flip your channel to some zee crap or something when a
religous programme airs on Prime. Watch semi nude ugly witches
dancing all over, oh now that's glamour.
I know there are many religious programs lined up in the PTV broadcast, but the question is...are these programs good enough to answer the doubts that one may have, in particular with the current world situation?
I would say NO! since those programs are more geared towards da'awa rather than helping people understand Islam. I think there should be more "open house" sort of sessions where people can ask/debate on various fundamental concerns/beliefs.
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highly boring??? what're you talkin' about??????
what kind of presentation do you want in a religious programme.
Glamour, glamour, glamour, is this what you all crave for. Do you
want a person saying Naat in front of a camara, standing still, wearing
shalwar kameez, to wear shorts and a hawaian shirt???, lots of clourful
backgrounds with palm tress???? is this what you want in a religous
programme???
The fact of the matter is that you don't want to see any religous programme.
Regardless of the matter, if they are glamrous or non glamrous, devoid or quality or not dovoid of quality.
I'm sorry but your brain has been corrupted from the excess of watching indian channels. I see yet another Pakistani victim of indian
culuture and propaganda.
So here's a tip, flip your channel to some zee crap or something when a
religous programme airs on Prime. Watch semi nude ugly witches
dancing all over, oh now that's glamour.
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Who said anything about glamour? I'm talking about presentation and the format of the show. Instead of having a lecturer discuss a topic in front of the camera, why not have a panel of scholars debating a subject, kinda like what we do in the religion forum? Or bring in average Pakistanis off the street and do some Islamic trivia. Or interview people in Pakistan or abroad and ask them about stuff they're confused about...and then various scholars can offer different viewpoints that are available in current literature.
Or have a discussion panel and tie in Islam with other avenues of life, like Politics, economics, entertainment, art, education, etc...this might bring people out of the mentality that religion is independent of how you live your life...
Dont get fiesty Zulfi. By assume-ing you're making an "a##" our of "u" and "me". And that's not going to get you anywhere.
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*Originally posted by D.A.Zulfi: *
standing still, wearing shalwar kameez, to wear shorts and a hawaian shirt???
Watch semi nude ugly witches dancing all over
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Ugh, i typed up a whole page and i hit submit and poof it was gone. I am gonna try again.
A lot is much much easier said than done. Incoporating more religious programs targeting what pumpo wants done is going to take a lot of planning. Some people think that even having Adaan 5 times a day is too much, Nauzobillah. Plus, it's a family channel, and they do not have a specific age group that they can target, they have to satisfy everyone. Though i agree that a lot of young and some old muslims have misconceptions about Islam, and some don't feel entirely comfortable with going out and asking others directly so Prime TV could be a good source of religious information. Though i think there's a lot of other mediums they can utilize, i.e. internet and attending discussions in their communities. I think Prime should also show programs about the spiritual aspect of Islam, most people want to connect with Islam spiritually.
PcG
Having a panel discussion on religious issues, in my opinion, will be a disaster, as each person is going to believe that their view is the the correct one. And hence, everyone will build their own 'daiRh eent ki masjid'. As for asking the average pakistani on the street about trivial questions, i doubt that many would like to participate as most people don't want to come off as being not knowledgable enough about Islam, most don't want to be identified in that sense either. Rest of whatever you said, i agree with.
Oh and as for the too much high-tech urdu being spoken :D I think it's good. It's been show statistically that by the third generation of immigrants, the mother tongue is almost non-existent, we don't want that happening do we? So next time you don't understand a big word, bug your parents about it. I think it's a good way to keep in touch with Urdu too.
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it really amazes me how proponents of the Islamic faith who play the holier-than-thou , are in reality fickle and have no sense of how to talk.
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what really amazed me is that when there is nothing you can say to
defend your point of view (which you know is wrong), one starts saying
"no sense of how to talk".
BTW, just for the record, I never claimed to be the so called holier-than-thou.
:D I do ask my parents about some words , and sometimes they dont even know the meaning. They have been living abroad for like 30 years--they've even forgotten how to write urdu it well. Dont worry though, for my circumstances, my urdu is pretty good - i understand the dramas well. And expanding vocab doesn't hurt.
And yes, you do have a point there about the discussion panel and the street interviews....
by the way, there is a programme called zakia where some old person, an intellectual, just talks to you. Again, I dont understand too much of what he says, but it seems like he talks about many things - one being religion. I dont know...is that the type of programming you're looking for pumpo?
By the way, e-mail them with your ideas. They actually listen to you. Thanks to mua, they will be showing the first ever fashion show on Prime this friday. :) They actually do listen and do their best to comply with everyone's wishes.
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All are highly boring, and devoid of quality.
If you want to make a religious programme, why can't it be fun to watch? Also, someone standing in front of a camera reciting a Quranic verse is not going to improve anything.
I would say that Tafhim show is the only interesting one, but even there, I still fee the guy talks in too high Urdu and is a very uninteresting speaker.
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Islam and fun? Is that even possible?;)
I do like some of the Naat's.. ,aybe some religious poetry sesion
Pumpkin,
agree with you.. maybe it'd be worthwhile if a few of us email them and lend them suggestions which can be easily implemented.
Pcg,
i do think your comment 'boring, and devoid of quality' was a little harsh... so next time when you read the quran and you dont find little color pictures you'll find that boring too? ok kidding- its just that you can learn to learn off simple recitation of verses too.. depends on how much you're willin to improve yer knowledge i guess?
yay for yer fashion show too.. now we can also learn to dress "properly" and to ditch our islamic clothing- yet to come across a fashion show which doesn't convey that msg!... great step by ya.. kudos!
PCG is right.. television from Pakistan will always always be extremely dull and dry discussing religion and extremely patronizing when dealing with children programming.
What is wrong with the programming is in fact a reflection of what's wrong with Islam today.. too much of rhetoric, very little of true understanding and cross examining from within.
Don't hold your breath for a fresh perspective on Religion from PTV pumpkin.. the moment they change the format the next question would be.. whose Islam should they represent.. cuz you know we have many Islams based on the many scholars who interpret Islam and their many followers and so on.
Hve any of you seen Def Poetry jam on HBO?
I thought it was great, really hip, featuring talented young artists.
I think a show like that would be awesome on Ptv… I know they have had poetry sessions before, but those were tailored for an older generation. I say, somthing more modern, a poetry jam for young people, new talent.. I would watch that.:k: