Puppet CJ Dogar's Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

As always, your long post is short on facts. Last time I checked Quetta was not in Punjab.

Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, as a someone who was supporting a military dictator for so long you’re hardy in position to preach about the rule of law.

As for Dogar, I don’t think any reference should be filed against him. He is de facto CJ & an opportunist crook. Any legal or the Constitutional reference against him will only give him legitimacy which he doesn’t deserve.

And the fact the he met a journalist to suppress a story about his daughter shows what kind of morally bankrupt man this guy is. So, now he is going to issue a gag order to prevent news media form reporting about him and his corrupt practices. This is an another example of misuse of power. It can’t get better than that.

Re: Puppet CJ Dogar's Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

Iftaykhaar is from Balochistan, please don't twist the facts to make your case.

Like Chaudaries there are lots of Dogars in Punjab as well... so now i guess Saleem's card for racism is dead or and he is going to do something different to prove that CJ Dogar had a right for corruption.

That is always the case.

I don't why people are getting their blood pressure up. If Chief Justice Dogar has done something wrong, then I am sure Great Zardari - the President of Pakistan will remove him from his post. Afterall, Pakistan is a democracy - is it not?

Re: Puppet CJ Dogar's Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

^ Please remind us once again who the corrupt tin pot dictator behind Zardari's return was, and which Chief Justice he used to pass the NRO?

CJ Ifti somehow used his team to dismiss case against him, while Dogar has used NA speaker to dismiss even "discussion" of allegations against him. Both are crooks and corrupt, lets move on.

I am surprised at those who justify removal of Ifti on the basis of "reference" don't condemn Musharraf for not following-thru of cases against him, to me that is sign of hypocrisy.

If the Chief Justice Dogar has done something wrong, let's hope he is removed before March 2009 (when he is due to retire). I am sure the democratically elected government will remove the Chief Justice before then if he has done anything wrong.

Brother, samjha karo. Iftikhar was a crook and a thug from beginning, so most likely he got his birth place Quetta to get jaali domicile of Balochistan, so that he can exploit people of Balochistan, something that is done quite often in Pakistan by people wanting to exploit jobs in other provinces, especially jobs in Sindh and Balochistan. As far as what I am told, Iftikhar family migrated to Baluchistan 30 years ago from Faisalabad, Punjab.

I do not mind if all 4 provinces are open to people from all over Pakistan for jobs, but situation is not like that and there are restrictions in the name of domicile. For instance, I believe that I can compete with anyone from anywhere in Pakistan at all levels for jobs in my field, though I am restricted to jobs in Sindh because of my domicile. In such situation, people moving from one province to another and getting domicile illegally for jobs, plus their friends/relatives helping them to get jobs illegally depriving local population, is wrong, that creates lot of hate in Pakistan between provinces. What I wrote is not ethnic racialism, but living with reality that exists in Pakistan. Either Pakistan Government abolishes domiciles and open every province for all citizen of Pakistan (just like it is in western countries), or stop such movements completely, else we will keep seeing ethnic tensions in Pakistan regularly.

[Personally, I would like to see abolishing of provinces and dividing country into 10 to 15 administrative areas, with complete freedom of population movement, all jobs given on merit without interviews as that can get used for discrimination (maybe 10 percent extra marks for people born within particular administrative area), plus election based on proportional representation].

Anyhow, read this news article, got published in ‘Daily Times’ at the height of ‘Bhangra on road show’, about Iftikhar and his association with Balochistan:

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Baloch indifference towards CJP’s suspension:
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Individualland.com, a leading website in the country, earlier held a discussion as to why Balochistan decided to remain calm and neutral over the ongoing crisis. The website quoted former Balochistan Bar Association president Wasey Tareen as saying, “I appreciate the president’s move (of filing a reference) against Justice Chaudhry. This step should have been taken much earlier. He used to act autocratically when he was the chief justice of the Balochistan High Court. He overtly formulated and backed a lobby of privileged lawyers against former Baloch Chief Justice Amir-ul-Mulk Mengal. He was not free in making decisions. He used to take dictations from politicians.”

Tareen said he himself had been sacked from the post of sessions judge in Noshaki district by Justice Chaudhry. “I was then a member of the Pakistan People’s Party and Nawaz Sharif, the former prime minister, dictated Justice Chaudhry to fire me,” he added.

Baloch lawyers in the province are skeptical of Justice Chaudhry. They regret that Justice Chaudhry promoted an anti-Baloch lobby in the provincial judiciary.

“The settlers constitute a minor proportion of Balochistan’s population but they hold 90 percent posts of judges and lawyers in the province. They don’t tolerate the Baloch. Even when 10 Baloch sessions and additional sessions judges were recently inducted, Justice Chaudhry billed it intolerable and demanded an inquiry into the matter by Justice Javed Iqbal and Justice Raja Fayyaz,” alleged Sadiq Raisani, the Baloch Bar Association president.
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Though around 2,000 lawyers are working across Balochistan, hardly more than 50 of them turned up in the protest rallies in support of Justice Chaudhry. An observer said it is unlikely that the CJP will experience a Lahore-like rousing welcome in his home province on his forthcoming trip to Balochistan.

Re: Puppet CJ Dogar's Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

^^ chalo jee qisa khatam,

the great saleem got this WAHI that XCJ has fake domicile , great going, keep it up... every one in Pakistan is dumb and if there is any brains in Pakistan it is with Saleem and people with his idealogy..i.e. Altaf

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hahaha so just because Iftikhar's family moved to Baluchistan 30 years ago, Saleems calling him a racist!!! Altaf Hussains family moved from India, does that make him an Indian? hmmm you know, saleem might be right because ataf works for India and has already denounced Pakistan!

Its a shame how Mushy supporters are nothing but the biggest hypocrites we've seen. Koi excuse nahee mili tu chaudhry iftikhar par punjab card play kar rahey hain. tsk tsk.

Bhai, I just speculated that Iftii might have faked his domicile ... but I would not bet a penny on that :). As for the article in Daily Times, it shows that Iftikhar was ethnic racist and was discriminating against Balochs while in office as CJ of Balochistan high court ... read the article as it is not me saying but that is what published in Daily Times ... and it is not me who wrote that article in Daily Times :).

Yar, I did not call Iftikhar racist. Read the article as it is article that shows that he was discriminating against Balochs. And believe me, it is not me who wrote that article in Daily Times, neither the article quotes me calling Iftikhar racist, but it is Baloch lawyers and judges.

Re: Puppet CJ Dogar's Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

^^ aparently it is baloch ( Ali Kurd) who is heading the campaign to re-instate the ifti... i guess as per your defination is dumb A. hole, don't know anything about ifti and his racism.. only saleem and daily time knows about it...

Do not blame me as my information is not personal. I only know because 'Daily Times' wrote it, quoting Baloch lawyers and Judge that iftikhar was discriminating against local Balochs.

I'm sorry if I'm jumping in between a sane conversation going on, but why did you speculate? Do you consider it appropriate doing so about any , repeat, any single person??

I speculated because I learned from reliable source that Ch iftikhar family moved to Balochistan some 30 odd years ago from Faisalabad, Punjab (My information might be wrong, but I believe that it is right, and cause of my speculation is that information).

For instance, Iftikhar Chaudhari is around 60 years old. He was born in Dec 1948 (his official date of birth). Now if he was born 60 years ago and if what I learned that his family moved to Balochistan around 30 odd years ago is correct, then certainly Quetta as his birth place (that is what he claims) cannot be true and if that is not true than most likely his domicile at the time he used it to get admission in Quetta colleges, and later getting job in Balochistan, must be fake too.

[Note: That is why when I wrote about his place of birth and domicile as fake, I used the word 'most likely' ... as all is dependent on my information that his family moved to Balochistan some 30 odd years ago].

Are you saying he sought admission in Quetta colleges at age of around 30? While he joined the Bar in 1974 after completing his LLB, he was advocate of High Court in 1976 (more than 30 years ago).

Brother, I am ordinary human being and get no wahi, though what I wrote is not a secret information only to me. What I learned I wrote, but as you asked, I am showing you what others know the same too, and they question same. Here is something for you to ponder: A post here confirms what I wrote and ask same question from daughter of Iftikhar, without reply. Another post speculated the reply.

I believe that no one else replied because what is written in post asking domicile question from Iftikhar daughter is known fact that Iftikhar balochistan domicile is fake. I think that he got into Jamshoro to do law on Balochistan domicile as probably his marks was not up to standard to get admission in any Law college, so he got Balochistan domicile to get admission in Sindh (Jamshoro) on Balochistan quota. Later he used same domicile to get job in Balochistan. Well, what one can expect from such person who did same for his son, got him admitted in medical college by crook means, and later in government job by crook means.

Letter from the Daughter of CJ Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry | Teeth Maestro

Post one … questioned Ch Iftikhar domicile:
khalid jamil on February 21, 2008 @ 3:12 am
my sympathy with you but i tell real story that happend to my friend in 1988. after sepration of east pakistan his join NRTC haripur. his right to got domicile from haripur and got it(SSC HSC exam passed haripur) but in 1988 when he appeared in FPSC Interview the member of board demanded him to produce his father domicile(NWFP)within 15 days, on these resons he kicked from FPSC. My question that your father born in punjab, his laywer degree from Jamshooshore he is not origianaly baloch how he got the balochistan domicile otherthen to get Punjab domicile is this Illegal although he CJ

Post two replied to post questioned domicile of Iftikhar:
A Pakistani on February 25, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
One Khalid Jamil up here on the 21st of Feb has asked the Ex Suo Moto Chief Iftikhar’s daughter that how come her father was born in Punjab but carries a domicile of Baluchistan. He has furthered queried if this is not illegal? My answer to him is that, knowing the Ex CJ’s wheeling-dealing brain, he must have got even his domicile to derive some benefit or the other for himself. He might have thought he will get in the service quick, probably on quota basis, if it is from Baluchistan. With him, anything is possible.

Re: Puppet CJ Dogar’s Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

^ Saleem bhai :smack: I expected better than this, can you please post a news article instead of posts from other forums?

Re: Puppet CJ Dogar’s Daughter gets illegal marks in FSc. (Merged)

Just for your Info

wikipedia says :

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it further adds :

Now my source is

Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and u are presenting mysterious source, which is you heard, you speculate, you think, you were told, somebody said etc etc…
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