Punjabi Establishment, Punjabi People and Injustices with other Provinces !

Captain FT,

You have to agree that Punjabi Establishment has ruled the country since 1947. Its policies were not in the interest of Pakistan but only in the interest of Punjab that is why more than half of Pakistan parted away in 1971, and lack of trust by other provinces.

Had Bengalis part of Pakistan, your percentage in combined Pakistan would have not more than 25%. Maulana Abul Kalam Azad predicted this more than six decades ago that making Pakistan would only create Punjabi domination who would not give the other provinces due share. That's why he was not in favor of partition. What he said proved in 1971 and later years.

By nature Punjabis are aggressive, selfish, racists, damn care about others. By the way all these regional parties MQM, JSQM, BNM etc etc are created by Punjabi establishment, to follow the colonial masters the Britishers of divide and rule policy. GET YOUR FACTS CORRECTED.

You shud set an example by letting go Assam, Kashmir and all those who don't want to remain with India.

Well my boy Niden! u must also keep ur facts corrected. where i had said that punjabis had not done injustices with other provinces?

same was the case with east pakistan. but when u bark that punjabis are racists, selfish, aggressive and damn care about others then man what about MQM, BLA, JWP and other racist parties? do they care of anyone?

all balochi, sindhi and punjabis and pathans have ignorance to some extent and is there no racism in balochistan, sindh in the form of BLA, JWP, MQM? is there no lack of care for the ppl from damn UnIslamic system of waderas, sardars?

which care are u talking about? bomb blasts in karachi is what u say care? gunning down ppl and to make ppl poor and poor by sardars is this what u say humanity? no doubt that punjab has done injustrices with others but they all know it is a wrong thing which is going on and why it is continuing? i have also told ya?

well you tell me that we have a baloch president right now. what the hell he has done for balochistan? what the hell MQM racists and fasadis had done for sindh except bomb blasts in karachi. what have they done.? if they are so innocent and caring then they must not go into land cruisers, just spend extra money on poor sindhis and balochis. what the hell ur talking aboput and what about ur masters indians who are number 1 in this racism. ehh?

Damn

hahahahaha thats very right first set and example urself then talk about anyone

Re: Punjabi Establishment, Punjabi People and Injustices with other Provinces !

Losers always have someone to blame.

When it comes to world stage, Pakis blame all ills on USA and when it comes to domestic issues, its always Punjabis to blame.

well man what about USA and india themselves, when USA loses in aghanistan then blame is on pakistan and when india loses in its own territories to seperatist movements in india who are fedup with indian brutality then ISI and pakistan comes then in blame

haaah damn on traitors and enemy terrorists

Can we discuss this matter in a civilized manner? "when you bark" what kind of nonsense is this? It just proved my one point of Punjabi agressiveness.

You agree with what I said according to your above statement. Keep discussion to the topic you have created. MQM, BLA, JwP and other racists parties are not being discussed here. Or you think if these are racists so are Punjabis?

Can you give representation in army and federal government by other provinces? According to your statement 60% of Punjabis should hold army and federal government positions. Do you know what is the actual percentage hold by Punjabis? I give you 95% in army and 90% in federal government. Why? Give other provinces 40% share in army and in federal government. Otherwise it is pointless to discuss further.

Lets see the financial aspects

Punjab Budget 490 billion (43%) Population 56%
Sindh Budget 327 billion (30%) Population 23%

NWFP Budget 215 billion (20%) Population 16%
Balochistan 80 billion ( 7%) Population 5%

AOA All

I asure U that majority Balochs do not want to part with Pakistan in any manner. It is the money being put in to destabilize Pakistan that is playing the major role and the fallacies of the stake holders. They have managed to indoctrinate few visible vocals though money and force but the silent majority knows that Pakistan is their only hope. Dont't get carried away with the planted independence issue.

Cheers

Re: Punjabi Establishment, Punjabi People and Injustices with other Provinces !

No one is against Punjabi people. We are against the establishment's pro-Punjab policies and racist attitude toward other minorities. I think the vast majority Punjabi people are also victim of these racist monsters. Lets fight these animals TOGETHER.

Re: Punjabi Establishment, Punjabi People and Injustices with other Provinces !

Simple solution to the above problem is to break Punjab in to three province. Make FATA, Kashmir, and Northern Areas also provinces.

BT,

Baloch can say what they want, even though they get MORE share in the finances in the budget.

Having said that,

Do you care to elaborate if Indian government gives any more than budget share to Indian Punjab (for their food products), and Eastern states for their mineral wealth?

No attacks, just info.

Thanks.

Re: Punjabi Establishment, Punjabi People and Injustices with other Provinces !

Actually we are on the shape of British administration. No one province is accoring to its local requirement. They need army from Punjab so they made it bigger. And think about Bahawalpur . It was not a part of Punjab in history but now ....
Who did this?

This is not entirely true.

Both Pakistan and India were created pretty much on the basis of 1945 elections. the two major victors of the elections i.e. Congress of India, and Muslim League then got into negotiations with British and decided the map.

There were minor adjustments along the accepted border, but it was tiny percentage compared to the fully agreed borders.

Once exception to this was the Frontier province. They actually voted in the referendum to join Pakistan.

Thus it would wrong to say that British created Pakistan and India without due consideration of the aspirations of the would-be citizens of the two countries.

You have a good point about princely states though. Their leaders were allowed to pretty much decide which country they want to join. However this decision was a moot point for totally contained states such as Qallat or Hyderabad. Kashmir was a border state so it got into hot waters and still is.

Re: Punjabi Establishment, Punjabi People and Injustices with other Provinces !

You are right but the provences were not made according to any relegeous base. That was a shape of Mughal subedari Nizam which british adopted according to their needs

Damn you are too funny, hahahahahhaa

BTW, let's be realistic and be critical of the facts. NWFP is producing most of the country's electricity and Balochistan with Gase, but why their headquarters are in Lahore? Shouldn't it be in Islamabad or in their respective provinces?

True that provinces or administrative units (soobas) have existed from Mughal times. And 1945 elections provided a basis for popular demand in a sooba.

Thus Pakistan and India were not just BRITISH CREATION, instead these countries were "negotiated" between the "elected leaders of India" and the "British Government representatives". This was a TWO-WAY decision and not just British imposing their will.

Yes it the soobas were not religious entities, but that should not lead us to the view that provinces did not get their voices heard in the process.

Hope that clarifies for you the circumstances in which Pakistan and India came into being.

well my sis! what DD is showing is right but the manner in which they are tyrying to show is for pakistan's disintegration. they are traitors and nothing. i have many times said aalia that injustices are done with balochistan but baloch ppl must also see who is their real enemy. they must fight for their rights but there is a difference between fighting for rights and fighting for seperate homeland

we all must think about that as a muslim. we must fight against the brutal leaders but not for disintegration of our country sis

Thanks DD, i was searching or these figures but couldn't find them, hopefully these are accurate figures.

So who wants to comment on these figures now????

I see the propaganda master had nothing to say except, this is too ridiculous to comment which hardly makes any sense.

So no one has any answer to this question???
Where is the propaganda brigade???