Someone recommended Marina Khan’s drama series (xyz ki aye gi baraat) to me which I started watching just for Bushra Ansari and because I’m such a cynical viewer, I couldn’t help but notice the provincial divide evident in the drama. The Punjabis are portrayed as the jahil, comical type whereas the Karachiites are supposed to the civilized, intellectual ones. The Punjabis would say yeh Karachi hai yahan aise nahin aise hota hai and the Karachiites would say Punjabis are this and that, OMG they’ve corrupted my language etc… all in good humour, I’m not offended or anything. I’m just wondering if the drama exaggerated the differences between the two provinces or are they really that stark? It was like they were speaking about two completely different countries.
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maybe when Pakistan was created, the people who moved to Karachi were generally educated where as Punjabis till then were mostly uneducated. With the passage of time the situation has changed a lot especially in Urban Punjab. Maybe the drama is using that as their theme, or Karachi versus rural Punjab?
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I think it's mere competitiveness between the two provinces showing the social dynamics. Along the way generalisations are made, clearly.
I think its fair to say it one way they're like different countries with their own customs, language etc...However, I feel both are committed to Pakistan.
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Its nothing new. From very early on, it used to be that in PTV-Karachi productions, the comical characters were punjabis (remember Bhaihaan Chowdry from Aanagan Terha?) and from Lahore-TV proudctions, they used to be Urdu speaking.
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maybe when Pakistan was created, the people who moved to Karachi were generally educated where as Punjabis till then were mostly uneducated. With the passage of time the situation has changed a lot especially in Urban Punjab. Maybe the drama is using that as their theme, or Karachi versus rural Punjab?
Well the Punjabis were supposed to be amongst the elite in Punjab. Chaudharies from Faisalabad.
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Well the Punjabis were supposed to be amongst the elite in Punjab. Chaudharies from Faisalabad.
During the British Raj, Punjab was nothing more then a food basket. Karachi has always been a major port in the sub continent from day one. Its strategic locations makes it like that. Ali, is right in saying generally speaking most Punjabis were uneducated and catered to the primary market. Where as the intellectuals of muslim India moved into the most urbanised locations, making what Karachi what it is today. :D
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Faisalabadis that I have seen are mostly comedians (juggat baaz), maybe something to do with the water of the city… 
I have family members there, and the class fellows that I had from the city were all namoonas.
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I think it's mere competitiveness between the two provinces showing the social dynamics. Along the way generalisations are made, clearly.
I think its fair to say it one way they're like different countries with their own customs, language etc...However, I feel both are committed to Pakistan.
Is Punjab more of a farming community and Karachi/Sindh more industrial?
Its nothing new. From very early on, it used to be that in PTV-Karachi productions, the comical characters were punjabis (remember Bhaihaan Chowdry from Aanagan Terha?) and from Lahore-TV proudctions, they used to be Urdu speaking.
Hmm don't remember. I find the urdu-speaking concept harder to grasp because our generation back home in Punjab actually speaks in Urdu all the time so I don't understand how that's exclusive to the Sindhis only. Weird.
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Haha I have to agree with that. 
The Faisalabadi accent itself is quite amusing!
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Is Punjab more of a farming community and Karachi/Sindh more industrial?
I would certainly say it was maybe 30+ years ago. However, Punjab has since been on the rise with major economic centres such as Lahore, Faislabad, Rawalpindi etc....It is consistently taking share away on a per capita basis away from Sind. BUT it also the most populous and you would expect this in a natural economy.
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One thing I fail to understand is that how come the accent of Faisalabadis is similar to the Punjabi spoken by Sikhs, the sense of humour seems to be another similarity.
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Yes, lifestyle is different. Punjabi people generally don't care much to 'appear' civilized or educated. Speaking Urdu with 'proper' accent and style, for example, is viewed as an evidence of being 'civilized' in Karachi. The thing is that it doesn't 'hurt' Punjabis. Punjabi people would generally not care much about accents and stuff and would even make fun of their own accent, lifestyle, etc.
Even in Bollywood movies, the 'Punjabi' guy would be a carefree soul, unaware that people are not taking him seriously. :D
You can see the same for Indian Punjab v/s UP (say, Agra).
Situation gets very interesting in South India. You cannot really guess from the appearance or conduct of a person whether he is a farmer or an elite university professor.
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A Punjabi is the director of GS is enough evidence that we Punjabis are not less than anyone 
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Punjabiyan Di Shaan Wakhri !
Enough Said!
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Its more about being care free in Punjabi culture and being too-much-care in Karachi culture. There is nothing good or bad about both cultures though. These are just different cultures.
I though have enjoyed best of both cultures being a Karachite by birth & studying in Pakistan Air Force school/college (where 80% of the fellows were Punjabis)
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Its more about being care free in Punjabi culture and being too-much-care in Karachi culture. There is nothing good or bad about both cultures though. These are just different cultures.
I though have enjoyed best of both cultures being a Karachite by birth & studying in Pakistan Air Force school/college (where 80% of the fellows were Punjabis)
Agreed
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You can see the same for Indian Punjab v/s UP (say, Agra).
Situation gets very interesting in South India. You cannot really guess from the appearance or conduct of a person whether he is a farmer or an elite university professor.
In hindi movies and in local conversations, agra is either referred for Taj or for the Biggest Pagalkhana in India which is located in Agra. So when you hear in movies that he is from agra then they actually means he came from a pagal khana.
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It's the accent. It takes some getting used to.
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Someone recommended Marina Khan's drama series (xyz ki aye gi baraat) to me which I started watching just for Bushra Ansari and because I'm such a cynical viewer, I couldn't help but notice the provincial divide evident in the drama. The Punjabis are portrayed as the jahil, comical type whereas the Karachiites are supposed to the civilized, intellectual ones. The Punjabis would say yeh Karachi hai yahan aise nahin aise hota hai and the Karachiites would say Punjabis are this and that, OMG they've corrupted my language etc... all in good humour, I'm not offended or anything. I'm just wondering if the drama exaggerated the differences between the two provinces or are they really that stark? It was like they were speaking about two completely different countries.
I think its more of Urban-Rural divide than Punjab-Sindh divide. People here in Karachi treat people from rural Punjab as well as rural Sindh in same way
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What if this was in Pakistan Affairs