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Whether the bible has changed doesn't make it less valid or more univeral in its message. Just because a book hasn't changed doesn't mean that it is the supposed word of god or the right word of god. Validity in god's word per that document is a matter fo "faith". Same as the messengers that bring, expand that word. Whether Mirza or Krishna or Mohammad or Jesus or Zoroaster...if people believe that these exalted beings are carrying god's word then it is "faith" in the messenger. There is no absolute or universal truth attached. And they all derserve the same respect.
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True..
then why u said..
"I am the last prophet
I am giving you a book that says so.
If you don;t believe in it, then you are a non-believer and are going to hell
So believe me..why because I am telling you to believe me and is it written in the book that I am giving you. "
If we belive Muhammad (PBUH) words as truth then why r u so sarcastic about them? And bring ur views in this post where we were discussing entirely different topic .. ahmadis also believe in Muhammad (PBUH) and hold Quran as word of God...
It was to showcase that it is very easy to ridicule something that is held close to other's faith. You were very quick to jump on my points but were lagging on Mirza's detractors. You should apply the same diligence...to be consistent. I was atleast consistent. :)
So ur way of replying to detractors was to disrespect faith that all muslims hold sacrad? As I said earliar u even disrespected ahmadis (may be unkwoingly) while protecting them! So a proper background is necessary in these sensitive issues..
My way of dealing with the fundos is to give them a taste of their own medicine. You can be slective about who you berate but I do not hold such onesided biases. I would be more than happy to give my two cents to a pandit, a mullah a priest a rabbi a friggin shaman...if they go around and proclaim their righteousness over others while ridiculing others' faith.
haha.. actually u gave medicine of ur dose to all muslims at one time.. it hit all muslims .. it wasnt directed towards some particular one as u say...
dont use such illogical discussions to prove that mirza was a prophet…
Quran tells u to believe in what Muhammad :saw: says and if u dont, u will get punishment…
it does not have to be specifically mentioned for each crime…
Muhammad :saw: explaining the concept of khatam-an-nabiyoon (which u like to translate as seal of prophets) said that prophethood is like a house of bricks and i am the last brick in this house, there will be no prophet after me…
now if u deny the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad :saw: u r in serious problem…
but what u ahmadis do, is that once u have no answer for these things, and cannot change ppl’s minds about the finality of Muhammad’s :saw: prophethood, u change ur belief and say “we never said mirza was a prophet, he is just the promised messiah”…
why dont u simply accept that all these r lies and find urself a name to identify with, for surely u r not muslims…
Um… no i dont think so there is any punishment, if believing in a False Prophet ull just end up in hell and dine with Satan for etertinity:nahnah:
But if u stop believing in that prophet u were believing because u didnt no he was wrong and u ask Allah for forgiveness with ur whole heart:crying:. He will forgive u, because Allah almighty is Knower of all Secrets and Merciful
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Same messenger of God whom ur taunting as Superman is a beloved prophet of God and mentioned in such high esteem in Quran and his virgin birth is testement of great miracle of God.. whether he comes or not is a separate debate but doubting that he cant come is amazing since his birth is miracle..
But since u have found ur savior ur pretty much disturbed that Jesus (AS) cant come.. muslims dont care since guidence of Sunnah and Quran is enough to save us.. and we dont need someone claiming he has performed 1 million miracles..
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I have no interest in reading what you are trying to be correct. ]
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Don't run away like a loser. I know why you don't want to read because you know that you can't come up with argument in your support from Quran and Hadith.
How true is Quran:
17: 82. And proclaim: `Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Verily, falsehood is bound to vanish.
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I am not running away sweety
and look who is aacting as a looser here well this is very clear that you will not accpet the truth, as you already have molded islam according to your desires and wish. you do not believe in Muhammad :saw: as a last prophet of Allah, it suddenly kick you out from Islam and you are asking me to listen your khutba ? no dear
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Well if you read my ‘khutba’ you would know you are not kicking only ahmadis out of islam, you are also kicking (nau’zobillah) hadhrat ayesha , hadhrat ali:razi: hadhrat abubakar:razi: and most of rest of ulema in the history of Islam by keeping your such ridiculous belief.
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That is no my saying. that is their saying. Sahabi’s believed at the time of Muhammad :saw: that Jesus :as: is not alive. and most of the muslim scholars. I’ve given references from Quran and Ahadith.
If you don’t believe just go and look at that post, unless you’ve already made up your mind of not believing the truth.
If Hazrat Ayesha also didn't believe the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) as the last prophet, then doesn't it make her having the same belief as that of Ahmadis. If you are kicking Ahmadis out of Islam, you have to do the Naozobillah the same thing with Hazrat Ayesha.
no i dont think so there is any punishment, if believing in a False Prophet ull just end up in hell and dine with Satan 
for etertinity:nahnah:
:rotfl:
, hadhrat ali:razi: hadhrat abubakar:razi: and most of rest of ulema in the history of Islam by keeping your such ridiculous belief.