Honestly now, how many times have you heard a Mullah give a proper speech.
I’ve only heard 2 of them so far.
The rest have content but in all honestly God forgive me for saying this they put me to sleep cuz they can’t talk for pebbles.
Its about time they take a certificate or two in public speaking and motivation and not to mention sociology.
Eh, i’m just being a skeptical critic of 'em.
ok i’m ready for the slaps, bring em on. then again its not like i’m defaming them.
ah, meri do paisos
depends on the listener..
I always go for what is being said not how it is said or who said it...
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depends on the listener..
I always go for what is being said not how it is said or who said it...
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I agree Gadha...Musa (AS) had a stutter and yet was a Prophet and conveyed Allah (SWT)'s message...Speaking well is an art, listening well is a gift...:)
coco
My current masjid has a very good imaam, a real scholar and a very good speaker as well.
With the issue that many speakers' primary language is not enlgish sometimes .. I will try to listen hard of whats being said is interesting.
Its painful when its the same ol same ol and is not presented well.
if u r interested in something, u wont sleep in the lecture....
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Its painful when its the same ol same ol and is not presented well.
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This is exactly what i'm talking about. I'm all ears for these guys but for crying out loud can they make it a lil' interesting and relate to the life lived now with events of the past as precidence.
I have no problem with english being a second language for em or if they have a speech impediment; but they gotta capture the audience, mind u its not only me who feels this way.
As I said its the content and how its presented. Its very easy for someone to go up there and regurgitate out of a book.
You should talk to khateeb/imam and explain in a proper manner as what you and other feel and what content you and others would like to hear and what improvement needs to be done.
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You should talk to khateeb/imam and explain in a proper manner as what you and other feel and what content you and others would like to hear and what improvement needs to be done.
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its just not one of them. i'm saying since they go to all these schools to be learned and become an imam they should include courses such as public speaking, sociology, psychology and motivation.
Our mosque, like most high profile mosques across the nation, has a visiting faculty. Meaning there are scholars from all over who come and deliver their sermons on Friday. While they are screened and stuff, obviously this is hit-and-miss kinda thing, where sometimes the folks are very engaging and interesting, and others are just the kind described by Coco.
The way our mosque administration handles it, is to have a khutba feedback section on our mosque's webpage, where all namazis can submit their feedback on the Friday sermon. If a scholar gets enough bad points, he is not going to be invited again.
That is probably one way of handling this issue.
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I agree Gadha...Musa (AS) had a stutter and yet was a Prophet and conveyed Allah (SWT)'s message...Speaking well is an art, listening well is a gift...:)
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Musa didn't convey his message himself.. He needed his brother for it because he was a better orator.. in fact allah bestowed the responsibility on Harun to aid Musa in conveying the message.
I'm all for telling speakers what I really think of their speech and what issues they should address. Have done it in the past, and I think more people should do this, if they feel the khutbah is "lacking".
I do feel that sometimes those giving khutbas dont take a look at the audience they are speaking to. Sure everyone is muslim, but not everyone is 45 years old with lots of life experience already, and I feel that the young ppl often ignore what is said in these khutbas due to this.
It is said in hadith (bukhari) that when a muslim is talking to a non-muslim about islam, and he sees that the non-muslim is no longer interested or gets to be too argumentative, he should stop the conversation and continue at a later time. I think this should apply to khutbas as well, to some extent, but in a different manner.
Just my opinion.