PTV finally finds a way to air INDIAN film Songs

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It was the first time in its history that Pakistan Television (PTV) aired Indian film songs “in the garb of a theme that Indian film composers repeatedly used Pakistani tunes in their works.”

The second episode of the show, produced by Pakistan’s leading TV producer Shoaib Mansoor and presented by Zia Moheyuddin, will be telecast on Saturday at 9.30 p.m. on PTV’s World Channel.

“A very pleasant shock indeed,” said film critic Malik Sajjad Haider, adding that it was a clever move on Mansoor’s part as running Indian songs was against official policy. “Even before the programme went on air, it created excitement about how we are going to see Indian songs on PTV.”

Mansoor said that he was sick of propaganda that Indian film songs were being copied here and vice versa and “so I decided to put the record straight.” He has been equally hard on some of the most respected Pakistani composers for copying the Indian songs.

“Our composers and producers have copied Indian songs and films without bothering to bring any changes to create some differences,” emcee Moheyuddin said. Mansoor also wrote the script of the programme.

But Mansoor is also drawing flak for airing Indian songs on PTV. “Zee TV in Pakistan,” says a headline of an article published in the Jung daily. The author Abdul Qadir Hasan raps PTV managing director Yousaf Baig Mirza for “introducing Indian culture on PTV.” Before joining PTV, Mirza was Zee TV’s marketing manager in London.

In a recently published interview, Pakistan chief executive, General Pervez Musharraf, was quoted as saying that he loved old Indian films songs but not the new ones.

The right-wing Nawa-e-Qaqt daily says PTV people have telecast Indian songs in the garb of a theme that Indian musicians repeatedly used Pakistani tunes. The paper said for long “some elements” in PTV have been looking for ways on how to telecast Indian songs and films. “At last they found the way out,” the paper said.

Mughal-e-Azam and a film by Indian actor Sheikh Mukhtar have been the only exceptions after screening of Indian films was banned in Pakistan in mid-1950s. Mukhtar, who migrated to Pakistan in 1965, was given special permission by then President Zia-ul Haq on compassionate ground.

No Indian song or film has been shown in Pakistan on TV or cinema. But a large number of Pakistanis continue to enjoy Indian films on Indian TV channels and video. Cassettes of Indian songs and films are freely available even in Pakistani villages.

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Smart move to get around useless control by the inept government.

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Source=
rediff.com????

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I saw some ads on PTV and was all set to watch it but could not due to power failure in our area in Delhi.hope there is a repeat telecast.

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Hey Deekay...
You must be a nut to be wanting to see PTV in Delhi when there are so many lively channels going? Or are you a Paki just making up a story for us?
I have lived in Delhi many years and don't recall anyone there ever interested in PTV.
Though I have heard some people in India talking about how amusing PTV can get especially with their NEWS which starts and ends with Kashmir and is replete with Anti-India propaganda.Beyond that they found PTV too bland and stale for their taste and thought even our much-maligned state-owned "Doordarshan"- far more open,modern and well-programmed as compared to PTV.

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I read this news at timesofindia.com.. The way they put this news is so funny (with al the spices, it sounds that indians are so proud that PTV aired their music.. They forgot that we PTV was actually making fun of them by saying that indians have to Copy Pakistani talent 'casue they don’t have any that can match Pakistan’s.. speacially the POP and modern music..

Chill Kiddo, in south asia, nobody even come close to PTV when it comes to quality..

Doordhardhan sucks

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P T V rulezzzz

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-May God bless the Land of Pure- PAKISTAN

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Hey Mr.ImpureLand, if you read my above post closely, you will find that a "Pakistani" film critic(see what's in double-quotes!) is quoted as saying that the Pakistanis were very excited about seeing Indian songs on PTV.And yes, nobody cared about the theme of the program...
Also, you Pakis would do well to keep in mind that Indian film and music industry churns out thousands of songs every year.(Remember,Bollywood makes more movies than any other film industry in the world). If even 10-12 of these 1000 songs annualy are inspired by Pakistani tracks, it does not mean that Bollywood depends on Pakistan for its bread and butter as the creators of the above Paki Program would like the Pakis to believe.

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But, most of the time the famouse ones are those copied from Pakistani songs.. The number is not just 10 or 20, it reaches 100s

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who is the critic? give us the link. If Pakistanis were so really excited about this program then this news should be in at least one Pakistani newspaper, so please no link from an indian story book…
**THOUGHT::**There is no reason for anybody in Pakistan to get excited about indian songs on national TV as music lovers can easily get their favorite songS from any rental or music store..
Chilli just chill Okey, Admit that Indians have to add some spice and lie into their news articles to make their people feel good.

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Impureland, The no. 100 is the product of your "wishful" thinking.. Anything that makes you happy ? Just wondering why the world doesn't give a damn to Pakistani music , if that's the case.
Ever counted how many of your songs and films are inspired/copied/stolen from Bollywood.I wouldn't know because I don't listen or watch the sub-standard Paki stuff.
Comparing Indian and Paki film/music industry is like comparing an Elephant to a Mouse.
So I think any further discussion on this subject is senseless.

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When was the last time the world gave a damn about Indian music.

Thank you, come again

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When I see Pakistanis lining up in Indian Grocery Stores in the US to buy Indian music CDs and when my Afghani neighbor belts out Kishore Kumar's songs effortlessly... I know somepeople do give a DAMN !!

Buddy, just go into some of the threads here and read the start-to-end lyrics of Hindi Songs posted by your countrymen.

What was that about "giving a damn" again ?

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Havent you heard "Imitation is best form of flattery". If any bollywood music director has used pakistani tunes that means they are good.

Chilly - as you said their number may be small but almost all of those tunes became hit. Some Pakistani singers are quite popular in India. Nusrat Fateh had given music direction to 2-3 hindi movies too. Good music has no language / regional barrier. India-Pakistan may have political problems. But please spare music/movies/arts. I am an Indian and I am happy if a Pakistani discusses Indian music with me and I have absolutely no problem listening to Pakistani tunes.

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Nancy, no need to assume a moderate pedestal here!!
Isn't it obvious that only HIT paki songs will be plagiarized by Bollywood music directors.
You know what , some of the hindi songs are inspired from Nepali folk songs also.. (like "Mushu Mushu Haanshi deu naa lai lai..").Does that mean that the Nepalese should be under the impression that when Indian music directors need to compose music all they do is sit and listen to Nepali tracks.
We Indians only hear about popular Pakistani songs/singers because we don't watch their films or listen to their music as regularly as they do ours.That doesn't mean that a good majority of Pakistani Songs/films are NOT absolute TRASH !!And also do you have any clue as to how many of the Paki songs-tunes/film-stories are stolen from INDIAN films/songs.

What the above Paki TV programme would like to have Pakis believe is that Indian music industry depends on the Pakis for creating hit songs.
Which is absolutely ABSURD !!Its an insult to scores of extremely talented and gifted individuals in the Indian films/music industry.

I think I am stretching this discussion needlessly.Its silly to compare India and Pakistan when it comes to music/films.
So that's it,I am not going to talk about it anymore.

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[quote]
Originally posted by chilli:
Impureland, The no. 100 is the product of your "wishful" thinking.. Anything that makes you happy ? Just wondering why the world doesn't give a damn to Pakistani music , if that's the case.
Ever counted how many of your songs and films are inspired/copied/stolen from Bollywood.I wouldn't know because I don't listen or watch the sub-standard Paki stuff.
Comparing Indian and Paki film/music industry is like comparing an Elephant to a Mouse.
So I think any further discussion on this subject is senseless.
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OK, give me 10 songs that Pakistan copied from hindia.. Then I'll start my list.. are you ready ???

like indians, Pakistanis listen to GOOD indian music. You are not the only indian I know. I know some good ones who really see things as they really are. Your post/language suggests that you're biased towards Pakistan so you lack the ability to judge issue correctly between these two countries.
I won't comment on rest of your rubbish posts...

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