It has been reported that both PTI & PPP are going to file a petition in Election Commission and Higher Courts to De-Seat PM Nawaz Sharif from Parliament and consequently from PMship.
Now we all know how systematic things have done and how difficult it is to prove it even with higher level forensic audit.
Once the petition is filed, after arguments on both sides non availability of proves ( we all know how PTI failed to prove rigging and its own lawyer rejected those thousands of proves against rigging), how come they are going prove it in court, and PMLN leadership will get cleanchit and will have lots of weight behind them in case they still need to face commission…
I often say, Govt is Dumb and Opposition is Dumber…and everytime they prove me right
Seriously you are probably the most confused poster here. When the opposition does manage to put some pressure on Gov and score a point, you start badmouthing the opposition and start crying how the country is going to fall apart, Army is evil, opposition is a demon, Gov is martyr.
But when opposition goes on back foot and the Gov gets a breathing space (something you naturally prefer), you still badmouth them and hold them responsible for everything?
Make your mind up and let go of this hypocrisy and duplicity. Just admit the fact you don't want to Gov in any sort of pressure by anybody or over anything.
I think most posters should've figured out your pattern.
And please stop killing your brain cells by thinking about "rigging". For people like you who don't know the basic ABC of democracy (understandably as it is a purely Western, First World concept) there will never be enough "proves" against rigging to convince your types. Like of you are better off idolizing the monarchies of Gulf states - fits in better with PMLN mojo.
Anyway, just to make you happy, in the land of pure - there is never enough "proves" to either prove rigging or rape.
By the way, just to expose hypocrisy and dishonesty of this particular poster to readers.
Only few days ago, he was saying in some thread why PTI-PPP aren't going to EC to disqualify the PM, and now they are, he's saying how it is a bad move and will result in nothing. Clearly, he doesn't know what he wants and changes his opinion like a chameleon depending on which side of the argument he thinks will benefit PMLN.
Seriously you are probably the most confused poster here. When the opposition does manage to put some pressure on Gov and score a point, you start badmouthing the opposition and start crying how the country is going to fall apart, Army is evil, opposition is a demon, Gov is martyr.
But when opposition goes on back foot and the Gov gets a breathing space (something you naturally prefer), you still badmouth them and hold them responsible for everything?
Make your mind up and let go of this hypocrisy and duplicity. Just admit the fact you don't want to Gov in any sort of pressure by anybody or over anything.
I think most posters should've figured out your pattern.
I tried reading your post...
Nothing but personal attacks...
U seem to have serious personal issues..please sort them out before commenting here..
As for criticizing this move of disqualification of PM, in the beginning it would have been a good mpve followed by debates in Parliament..
But now, when PM literally numbed the opposition and Imran khan in Parliament, it have lost its weight...on the otherhand, PM and his family would be grateful to the opposition for providing them this huge favor..
Since the beginning of anarchy by IK in Pakistani politics, almost 99% of my predictions have come true and same with Panama Leaks.
I guess this frustration and abusing me of PTI supporters is actually for their stupid and dumb leadership...but since they are God and can't be questioned they abuse me..
I tried reading your post...
Nothing but personal attacks...
U seem to have serious personal issues..please sort them out before commenting here..
You always cry wolf.
Yes I have personal issues because some super sensitive PMLN fan doesn't like his hypocrisy and dishonesty exposed.
Answer the simple question to prove you are not a hypocrite - were you even remotely pleased when Sharif family was under pressure? Shall I copy and paste your posts to show how upset you were when they were in a tight situation and facing accountability call?
The sheer arrogance and over confidence of PMLN supporters on the lines of "look we are such big jagga badmaashs" that even joint opposition, courts, FIA, NAB cannot do anything to us .....ha ha ha you lost we the jagga badmaashs won.....really makes you believe that Army is the only entity that can go after these goons.
If anyone in the country that can break 'aakar' of these jagga badmaash PMLN - it is none other than Army.
I mean the PMLN supporter himself admitting how useless and powerless joint opposition and courts in front of his mighty lords.
When the democratic opposition is discredited and defeated and demoralised, you know where to look. Someone will have to fill the vacuum....
Of course there is a pattern with me, even a blind man can see that I hate PMLN and I support every opposition to them.
Unlike some hypocrites who cry when opposition puts PM under pressure, and cry even more when opposition ease of the pressure. Such epic level of duplicity.
Hmm. I wonder who you were supporting when Nawaz Sharif and his party were on streets to send Yousuf Raza Gillani home?
We still had Army, Jews and Hindus, so which particular boogeymen you were blaming for 'derailing democracy' back then?
I guess when Mian Saab takes on streets to send PPP PMs home over corruption, it's Alhamdulliah a masterstroke, but when IK demands the same, its anaar-key backed by Jews, Hindus, Army and polar bears.
Hanibal, I genuinely like to hope that one day you will be able to realize that opposition is the soul of democracy. Opposition is what sets democracy apart from monarchy and dictatorship. So please stop ganging up on the opposition, demonising them and discrediting them, you know who comes in to fill in the vacuum as second option when civilian opposition and options are nullified. This is exactly what Nawaz Sharif did in 90s with PPP, and what happened to him after is history.
PPP Gov was able to survive and the democracy was not derailed because there was great freedom to do open opposition to them, including yourself who did not spare them on anything. So why act so hyper-allergic to same opposition to Nawaz when you yourself is aware of PMLN's crimes?
If your understanding for democracy genuinely goes beyond just hating the Pakistan Army, then for goodness sake, stop demonising and discrediting the opposition.
Proudly painting PMLN as some sort of untouchable and undefeatable 'jagga badmaashs' is not going to help democracy. It actually makes things worse.
***Seriously you are probably the most confused poster here.
******And please stop killing your brain cells by thinking about "rigging". For people like you who don't know the basic ABC of democracy (understandably as it is a purely Western, First World concept) there will never be enough "proves" against rigging to convince your types.
Make your mind up and let go of this hypocrisy and duplicity. I think most posters should've figured out your pattern.
By the way, just to expose hypocrisy and dishonesty of this particular poster to readers.
You always cry wolf.Yes I have personal issues because some super sensitive PMLN fan doesn't like his hypocrisy and dishonesty exposed.
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Of course there is a pattern with me, even a blind man can see that I hate PMLN and I support every opposition to them.**
We have requested so many times not to insult and harass fellow members. this is exactly the type of behavior that we want to eradicate so that everyone can post in an an open and comfortable environment without any fear of being insulted and harassed. if you want to differ from the fellow member, please do so and no one will stop it but differ with civility without any personal attacks.
How is saying that so and so is indulging in hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty because they were saying something completely different only two days ago, is a personal attack? He's just being called out on his own 'U-Turn'.
Hypocrisy is not an abuse word you know. If you want, I can copy and past his post where he eagerly wanted PTI to go ECP to highlight the definition of hypocrisy and dishonesty with some evidence.
How is saying that so and so is indulging in hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty because they were saying something completely different only two days ago, is a personal attack?
Hypocrisy is not an abuse word you know. If you want, I can copy and past his post where he wanted PTI to go ECP.
and calling someone "the most confused poster", "stop killing your brain-cells because you dont know ABC of democracy", admitting that "yes I have personal issues", declaring "i hate PMLN"... is not harassment and personal attacks? and all of this just because OP opened a thread and expressed his viewpoint that you did not like? if you have problem with his viewpoint, just express it in a civil way, no one will stop you, do quote his former posts but why getting so bitter?
anyway, pls feel free to contact the senior mgmt if you have issues with my judgment. thx
and calling someone "the most confused poster", "stop killing your brain-cells because you dont know ABC of democracy", admitting that "yes I have personal issues", declaring "i hate PMLN"... is not harassment and personal attacks? and all of this just because OP opened a thread and expressed his viewpoint that you did not like? if you have problem with his viewpoint, just express it in a civil way, no one will stop you, do quote his former posts but why getting so bitter?
anyway, pls feel free to contact the senior mgmt if you have issues with my judgment. thx
Are you kidding me? Now saying 'I hate PMLN' is an offence on this forum? Freedom of speech much? Does PMLN represent a person here, what are you doing? Even someone saying I hate PTI is not a personal attack on me so how is saying I hate PMLN a personal attack on somebody? Do you seriously believe this or you just settling political scores here with me?
I actually should've quoted his previous post to highlight what I really meant by hypocrisy and dishonesty here, I agree with you. Missed opportunity indeed.
But really, someone who has spent most of his time justifying electoral rigging on this forum shouldn't get upset when accused of not knowing enough about democracy
You practically run the show here, I don't know who your senior management is.
Are you kidding me? Now saying 'I hate PMLN' is an offence on this forum? Freedom of speech much? Does PMLN represent a person here, what are you doing? Even someone saying I hate PTI is not a personal attack on me so how is saying I hate PMLN a personal attack on somebody? Do you seriously believe this or you just settling political scores here with me?
I actually should've quoted his previous post to highlight what I really meant by hypocrisy and dishonesty here, I agree with you. Missed opportunity indeed.
But really, someone who has spent most of his time justifying electoral rigging on this forum shouldn't get upset when accused of not knowing enough about democracy
You practically run the show here, I don't know who your senior management is.
please go through all of your posts and if you think, you are just fine and made no harassment or personal attacks without any provocation , then pls contact the senior mgmt and yes, you know them very well. I have never settled any political scores with anyone on this forum. I have been dealing with many folks over here without considering their political loyalty.
and no I dont run the show here by any means. I am just a mod and I have made it very clear on this forum gazillion times that as a mod, I will not allow an environment in which posters feel harassed to express their viewpoint. thx
So are you saying that next time anyone says I hate PTI, you will see that as a personal attack on poor little me and go around shooting infractions?
Answer a simple question how come saying I hate PMLN to a person who is too embarrassed to even admit that he is a PMLN supporter, a personal attack?
I don’t see any senior mod active here active other than you, you are literally running the show here and playing good cop bad cop with posters as per your own political affiliations
That’s fine. You have settle your political scores with me somehow. So carry on with your abuse of power. Somewhere in this world, the great Khan jeeeeeeeee and the PTI is shedding endless tears for me, so job well done. :k: