PTI-MQM opposition alliance

Today there were some news in the media that SMQ made contact with farooq sattar to form an opposition alliance of sorts. Although it was denied by a very anti mqm leader of PTI, it did rounds in media.

Do you think its practical of PTI to reach out to MQM in order for IK to become opposition leader? Pros & cons?

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Question is does IK need to be an opposition leader to be effective in NA as an opposition party leader?

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Nobody has to “make” an alliance in opposition, let there be voting for opposition leader, whoever wins should be allowed to assume that title. PTI should not make any alliance with a terrorist party, or any haram-khor party. It should raise any objections against govt actions, scrutinize all spendings, projects etc.

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Also before elections IK had hammered home the point of not forming any alliance with any other party. Hopefully he meant as an opposition party in NA as well. It will be an ideological U-turn by the party. Also PTI needs to make sure that these so called electables like SMQ/Hashmi/Alvi etc dont hijack the party ideology/mandate.

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^ Alvi is not an electable to be honest :)

I agree with both of you. But thing is that being an opposition leader is important in terms of important decisions and appointments. I guess PMLN resorted to changing some results was because they knew IK as opposition leader will be a continuous pain in their neck. Hence the stolen mandate.

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It would be utterly shameful if Imran Khan makes any alliance with the same party whose head it directly accused of cold murder just weeks ago.

I suspect those Karachi bravehearts who stood their ground in Karachi despite threats from political terrorist would be sorely disappointed and may shun PTI.

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Sooner rather than later Karachi will be bleeding again with over a dozen deaths happening routinely. Imran cannot afford to have MQM's backing for his seat because he will need to come out roaring for durable solution to the problems of Karachi. Sharif will be ambiguous as he would prefer not to be dragged in this issue for various reasons. Karachiites will be looking towards PTI for speaking on their behalf and IK cannot remain silent. This will obviously put the two parties on a coalition course and MQM's backing will be like a hanging sword on IK. He should stay clear of MQM in any case.

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Imran’s Dilemma

The 2011 call he made to Altaf Bhai was a mistake, and I hope he learnt his lesson after MQM’s recent gestures where they resorted to sheer cannibalism (their trademark) by killing a female party member.

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How does being the Opposition Leader compliment the KPK mandate? And is it worth the compromise, if a compromise is required to achieve the position? Pros and Cons please.

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Pti should not make any alliance with MQM until the party sheds its image of bhatta khori and target killing. Any such alliance might give Imran leader of opposition slot but it would hurt the party in the long term. This alliance would help MQM come out of the pressures they are facing from Pti in Karachi.

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I don't know think MQM's "alliance" with anyone has ever worked out. Sooner or later, they resort to blackmail and threats.

But it would be fun to see a live debate between IK and Altaf Bhai.

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The last nail in the coffin of PTI...

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Don’t worry
Zardari hay na

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So, the news that PTI top leadership are responsible of Zohra Baji killing to sort out internal strife, and time chosen to kill was to cover up killng, is untrue?

Well, did law enforcement agencieis found the people who killed Zohara baji, or are people speculating?

If speculation is rife then is it wrong to speculate that ‘Aliens from planet Vulcan’ killed Zohra Baji … and we should ask any known Vulcan we know (maybe one trolling on this forum), about the identity of responsible Vulcan?

Anyhow, if motif is taken into account, it seems all fingers point towards PTI internal strife, as election result of 'NA 250' was obvious to all contesting parties before re-polling at 43 polling stations due to result of 137 polling stations already known (where PTI rigged enough to get 60000 votes compare to MQM 30000 votes, even though in 2008 MQM won the election from here), and thus election could not be cause of killing.

Alliance: As far as alliance between PTI and MQM in NA for seat of opposition leader is concerned, what is the problem, and why speculation?

What MQM would gain from alliance with PTI and making Imran opposition leader, and what Imran can give to Altaf for him to make alliance with PTI? Zilch. :)

Actually, even if it is on offer, PTI should not make alliance with MQM nor MQM should make alliance with PTI (that is my view). Even though MQM votes did not got reduced [as they got ~2 million votes from 19 constituencies of Karachi election held in 2013, it is same number of votes (~2 million votes) MQM got in 2008 election from these 19 constituencies], PTI wants to grab MQM votes in Karachi as their agenda, whereas MQM thinks that PTI votes in Karachi was just like one time show of frogs after rain.

[PTI and MQM grabbed most of PPPP and ANP votes in 2013 election, though PTI also gained votes of 'PMLN and JI' wherever they did not contested, and some votes of MQM too … on the other hand, PTI gained one MQM NA seats, MQM gained one PPPP ‘NA’ seats and PMLN gained one PPPP ‘NA’ seats].

Anyhow, regardless of ‘rigging in Punjab’ being casue of big PMLN win, PPPP is still second largest party in Parliament and deserves to lead opposition, something they should not be denied (that can only happen if unholy alliance is made between PTI and MQM ... and in that case, MQM would not vote or would vote for PTI).

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I have no faith left in IK and PTI. They're all the same. Pathetic politicians.

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If the alliance is made, then there would be no difference in IK and Zardari.. Zardari called PML(Q) Qatil league and then we all know their honey moon trips :bummer:

If PTI makes an alliance, my signature would turn out to be :

Imran aur Zardari ek hain
Imran se Zardari qadre naik hai

:hehe:

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^ it's a difficult ball game while one is on the other side of the fence as compared to when one is ruling/participating actively in parliamentary politics. Now PTI will have to make compromises which they have started in KPK by inducting 3 family members of pervaiz Khattak. PTI has lost moral justification to condemn others for being family parties. If PTI now forms an alliance with MQM for an opposition leader slot, PTI will begin their journey of becoming just another political party on the country's horizon.

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^ I am pretty sure PTI would try to make alliance with MQM, but is it in the hand of PTI to make alliance?

Question is, why MQM would make alliance with PTI?

What MQM would gain by making alliance with PTI to deprive PPPP from seat of opposition leader?

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^ it's better for PTI and MQM, to let MQM support PPP. PPP has more seats in any case therefore they deserve the opposition leader slot. PTI should only approach MQM when they improve their image.

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I do not think PTI should be worried about MQM image. PTI should do their own politics and think about their own survival or future gains (if they could).

Same with MQM. They should do their own politics and leave PTI to do what they can.

As for image, every party supporters think their party leaders have very clean image and others have tarnished image.