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Thats strange as in the jalsa I expect more people to be shouting slogans. Why pick on one of them and that too a kid?
Because he was son of a poor person from his constituency and he had threaten them not to attend the jalsa.
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These are two news items that I have found regarding him…it does seem as if he does not have any deen imaan…
http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/16/liaquat-jatoi-says-govt-plotting-to-murder-him.html
Liaquat Jatoi says govt plotting to murder himFrom the Newspaper | National | By Our Correspondent
**DADU, Nov 15: A leader of a political party has accused the government of plotting to assassinate him, besides framing his brothers in bogus cases and illegally occupying thousands of acres of land. {thousands of acres of lands??}
**Chairman, Awami Ittehad Party, Liaquat Ali Jatoi addressing a press conference in Betto village on Monday alleged the Sindh Chief Minister Syed Qaim Ali Shah, Home Minister Zulfiqar Mirza, Chief of Chnsdio tribe Sardar Chandio and his younger brother Burhan Chandio of planning to kill him as per the decision taken during a meeting held in Larkana. He called for registering a case against President Asif Zardari, Qaim Ali Shah, Zulfiqar Mirza and Sardar Chandio in the event of his assassination.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/05/does-liaquat-jatoi-want-to-join-ppp.htmlDoes Liaquat Jatoi want to join PPP?From the Newspaper | Metropolitan > Karachi | By Qurban Ali Khushik
**DADU, Oct 4: Two heavyweights of local political arena have locked horns as a leader of Pakistan People’s Party says that Liaquat Jatoi, who was remained minister during the Musharraf tenure, wants to join the ruling PPP and supporters of Mr Jatoi threaten a movement against the PPP leader if the onslaught against their leader was not stopped.
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PPP leader Haji Zafar Leghari told a press conference here on Tuesday that with the help of Dubai-based influential people, Awami Ittehad Party chairman Liaquat Ali Jatoi wanted to join PPP. He added that Mr Jatoi had been misguiding PPP Co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari during his visits to UAE.
Zafar Laghari, in presence of his son Imran Leghari, MPA, said that if PPP leadership accepted Liaquat Jatoi he would not object but only reminded his seniors that Mr Jatoi had lost his charm and influence in the area and the party may take a nosedive if he joined the party fold.
Mr Zafar Leghari said that Liaquat Jatoi wanted to become Anna Hazare but he had been involved in corruption and doubted his credibility to launch such a drive.
In a rebuttal, a leader of Awami ittehad Party, Irfan Solangi, summoned journalists at the residence of Mr Jatoi just to tell them that their leader never wished to join PPP. He said that if Zafar Leghari and his son Imran failed to stop mudslinging against Liaquat Jatoi, they would launch a drive against them.
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See the condition of CM jatoi’s constituency
If IK thinks that these people can bring change then I will doubt his abilities to judge people.
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My personal view on this would be that he should definitely not take Ghulam Arbab Rahim (as he is a very divisive personality in Sindh), as far as Liaqat Jatoi is concerned, maybe you can let us know more of his history.
If IK lets people like this make up his team, there is no need for hope.
It will show IK is as power hungry as the rest.
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This is the world of politics, the past statements of Imran aside I personally think that he shouldnt do anything divisive if he wants to lead the whole nation. Even in the next election there will be alliances and that will be good for reducing the misunderstandings of different political parties towards each other. I dont think most of us want any divisiveness now, we have already lost a whole generation due to this kind of negative politics.
Not do anything divisive and let his own alleged "bhatta-khor, terrorists and mafia members" continue with their "anti-Pakistan" nefarious activities?!
PTI is supposed to do what is right ... not what is expedient. If it embraces MQM then there would be no difference between PTI and others. And it will show that Imran is hungry for power alone.
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Alhamdolillah and no thanks to Imran. Taliban is of no worries only because of Pak army and PPP government's consistent and effective actions against them. Also don't forget the controversial drone attacks which eliminated many of Pakistan's worst enemies. If we had gone along with Imran's policies then we would not be talking about corruption and mismanagement but about internal security and suicide bombings. He was the one wanting to give them more room, appeasing them, stopping ALL military actions against them, and hardly ever condemning them.
Did you follow govt actually was doing? Govt was 'negotiating' with Taliban ;)
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You are making it look like it was only government’s negotiations which solved Taliban problem. It may be your “hut-dharmi” because it is obvious that these negotiations were LIMITED and happened AFTER Taliban had been weakened already.
For example, does anyone think the following is the result of “negotiations”?
The group responsible for most violence in the country is in disarray with its ‘chain of command’ crumbling, funds dwindling and infighting intensifying, admit Taliban foot soldiers.
Point is that there is no problem in negotiating. Question is when to negotiate. Negotiating “surrender” of some weaker khawarij groups is different from negotiating when they were strong and bold.
Successful negotiations are not possible without the enemy feeling any pressure.
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Actually, the above link deserves to be posted in full. It explains the reasons why Taliban has weakened.
Some reasons it quotes: DRONES, Pak spy agencies, lack of coordination, dwindling funds.
This link also shows that some Taliban are agreeing to negotiations only because of the above, and because they have not many choices left to save themselves.
**ISLAMABAD: **The twilight of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) – an outlawed umbrella of militant groups – appears to have set in.
The group responsible for most violence in the country is in disarray with its ‘chain of command’ crumbling, funds dwindling and infighting intensifying, admit Taliban foot soldiers.
“It appears the TTP’s days are numbered … what was a well-coordinated militia just a year ago has fragmented now and dozens of splinters groups have emerged,” a disgruntled member of the network told The Express Tribune.
At least two associates of the group in South Waziristan, the strongest bastion of TTP where its chief Hakimullah Mehsud is hiding, also confirmed this.
They said Mehsud has further isolated himself due to threats to his life from the dreaded American drones and Pakistani spy agencies.
“He is virtually a lonely man running for his life … he is always on the move and doesn’t meet even his once most-trusted lieutenants,” said Muhammad, a nom de guerre because the militants seldom use their real names.
Muhammad, who lives in the North Waziristan tribal region, was in Islamabad for the treatment of some kidney ailment at a private clinic. Mehsud has stopped meeting members of his notorious network from Punjab, better known as Punjabi Taliban, suspecting that some of them might be spying on him for Pakistani agencies.
“This is one of the reasons for relative peace in the country … there is no coordination among various groups of the Taliban,” said an intelligence official. There has been a visible decline in the Taliban violence in the country over the past few months.
The TTP associates said that their group was crumbling due to differences on the question of [pursuing peace talks with the government](Twilight of the Taliban: TTP buckles under internal fissures, external pressure ‘Mullah Omar is pushing TTP to reconcile with govt’)) — an option Mehsud had rejected outright when he was first approached with the offer.
One the other hand, several key TTP leaders have responded positively to peace overtures from the Pakistani agencies. TTP’s deputy chief in South Waziristan Mufti Waliur Rehman and the group’s No 2, Maulvi Faqir Muhammad from Bajaur Agency, are reportedly in talks with the government, indirectly though. Officially, both the government and the TTP deny peace talks.
Muhammad claimed that several members of the TTP shura, or decision-making council, have also showed willingness for talks. He added that the shura, which once had around three dozen senior leaders, has now shrunk to less than 10.
“People are now deserting Mehsud and joining the group led by Waliur Rehman,” he said, adding that the latter’s group is becoming more powerful.
No more money
Apart from differences within, supply of foot soldiers to the TTP is also drying up fast, said Muhammad who himself has given up violence to start a small business in his village.
“They (foot soldiers) are deserting because it no longer earns them money,” said Raqeebullah Mehsud, a former TTP field commander.
Intelligence officials are claiming the credit for the TTP’s imminent collapse, saying it was their squeeze that had played a key role in blocking funds supply to the Taliban. But experts like Brigadier (Retd) Muhammad Saad believe that TTP’s inability to generate money might be the result of what has been happening behind closed doors in Afghanistan in the recent past.
“There have been reports that the Afghan Taliban are actively engaged in peace talks,” he added.
Saad said that the war in Afghanistan was the main source of funds for the TTP “but it may not be the case anymore”.
But Brigadier (Retd) Mehmood Shah, another security analyst based in Peshawar, said it won’t be fair to deny the Pakistani agencies credit for the isolation and subsequent rupture in the ranks of the TTP.
“Much of this happened due to their (Pakistani agencies) maneuvers,” he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, December 19[SUP]th[/SUP], 2011.
*Correction: Due to an editing error, an earlier version of the story mentioned Baitullah Mehsud as the current TTP chief. The current chief is Hakimullah Mehsud. *
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yes it is my hut-dharmi, my illogical thought process which tells me that government will ‘negotiate’ with terrorists when they are already down while it will fight when they are strong, some reasoning that is :k:
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ummmmm.... if IK didn't say Zardari is corrupt, does he want reconciliation with him? If he didn't say Nawaz Sharif expropriated public money, does he want reconciliation with him? if he doesn't criticize MQM, does that mean he wants alliance with them?