PTI is Pasha's 'test tube party': Nisar

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So it is 16 years not 11 years this party is still struggling to take of. Indirectly your post is in praise of Zardari who allowed full freedom to press. Ayub Khan was never involved in creating PPP, as ZAB was out from his government long time ago. I don't know why you lie all the time here regarding creation of PPP in Gul-e-Rana Club in 1967. So don't behave like JI liars who had always been there to distort the history of Pakistan.

I agree with Ch Nisar on this. IK is a test tube baby re-incarnated by Pasha the ex DG ISI.
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Bhutto remained part of Ayub Khan's regime from 1958-66, after the Pakistan-India war and sensing that the dictator is losing grip he created his own party. So whats the big deal? Does creation of PPP nullify the start of his career, which was under the able guidance of a dictator?

Re: PTI is Pasha’s ‘test tube party’: Nisar

:rotfl: sad state of affairs for jiyalas who look with microscopes to find any ‘indirect’ praises for their leader as obviously ‘direct’ has been made impossible by the chief himself. Media was set free by Musharraf, not Zardari :chai:

Re: PTI is Pasha’s ‘test tube party’: Nisar

and Musharraf did not even realize himself that the same media will be responsible for his demise. His calculations failed. It was need of the time to bring private channels in by looking at the whole world. It was the effect of globalization that Musharraf had no control over. Het gets credit because he was sitting in govt. I can bet with all due respect and without any wrong intention, even if a mickey mouse was sitting in govt., this was bound to happen.

Re: PTI is Pasha's 'test tube party': Nisar

well, fortunately or unfortunately credit goes for the government of the time.

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no one is taking that away but context is important :D

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I have kinda respect for Jiyalas they speak a common language.

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That is why I am big supporter of efforts in increasing education level of Pakistanies. Our literacy rate is not good at all.

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see thats what i was talking about:D:

Re: PTI is Pasha's 'test tube party': Nisar

bohat he shareer test tube baby hai
baroon baroon ki tibre tyaat karr di hai

Re: PTI is Pasha’s ‘test tube party’: Nisar

This is not true
On behalf of my self and retired General Pasha
I assure you that we both can not do any such act ,
We are not Imran Khan
We both are quite gentle people .
All responsibility goes to Imran .

Re: PTI is Pasha’s ‘test tube party’: Nisar

Read his post again. Read as follows:

Pakistan: Musharraf Mutes the Media - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

**Musharraf is tightening his grip on Pakistan’s independent news outlets. Not all are going quietly. **

**Shahid Masood’s voice cracked during his last live appearance on Geo News. Broadcasting from Dubai, the Pakistani pundit and talk show host was defiant over the news that his nation’s most popular private news channel had been ordered off the air. “We are proud of this moment,” said a visibly shaken Masood, as a clock counted down the minutes to shutdown. Blaming the Musharraf government for pressuring the “government of the friendly country that is hosting us” into evicting the news channel, Masood added, “We did not buckle. We are going out fighting.” Then, last Saturday at 1 a.m. Pakistan time, Geo News went black.

Geo TV Network is hardly the only Pakistani media outlet to fall foul of Musharraf, who blamed the media along with terrorists and the judiciary for his decision to impose a nationwide state of emergency on Nov. 3. But the shutdown of the network—part of one of Pakistan’s oldest media empires—even though it was broadcasting from outside the country, lends a new dimension to Musharraf’s media crackdown. Once credited as the leader who had brought new freedom to local outlets, Musharraf’s new regulations now prohibit private news outlets from “ridiculing” the “head of state, or members of the armed force, or executive, legislative or judicial organs of the state.” Employees who disobey can face up to three years in prison or a fine of 10 million rupees (about $164,000). On Tuesday police detained some 150 journalists staging a peaceful protest in Karachi against the regulations; they were released after several hours.

The silencing of Geo News and ARY One World, another private news channel broadcasting from Dubai, removes an important source of independent news for citizens in a country in turmoil. The two channels had been shown via satellite from Dubai’s Media City; they were shut down because Dubai authorities reportedly felt they were “interfering in the politics of another country.” Official sources told NEWSWEEK that Musharraf had personally requested that Dubai leaders keep the channels “on a short leash.” It is unclear if or when they will be allowed to resume operation. While some private Pakistani news channels—including a channel owned by one of Musharraf’s new ministers and another owned by his son’s father-in-law—have been allowed back on the air during the emergency, they had to agree first to stick to the government’s new regulations. The Musharraf government wants Geo and ARY to follow the same “code of conduct” and to sack “hostile” journalists before it will allow them to go back on the air.

Geo says it has no plans to concede to government demands. In a sign of protest, its satellite frequency is running a loop of its logo adrift on stormy seas. On Saturday, when the Dubai broadcasts were stopped, journalists at Geo’s Davis Road office in Lahore pulled their office furniture out to the roadside. Surrounded by dozens of supporters chanting anti-Musharraf songs and slogans, the staffers stood solemnly behind desks covered with candles and flowers given to them by civil rights activists and regular citizens. Passers-by flashed victory signs in solidarity. “We are still refusing their demand to fire key anchors and journalists,” says Mir Ibrahim Rahman, Geo’s CEO, from Karachi. “We do not give in to threats and intimidation.”

Rahman says his company is losing $500,000 per day and was not allowed to air the India-Pakistan cricket series, for which it paid $15 million in broadcasting rights. “They’ve closed all our channels worldwide, including our music, entertainment and sports channels, which have nothing to do with news,” he says. Rahman, like many other Pakistani journalists, says he is especially shocked that it is Musharraf who led the crackdown. “The president was once all about tolerance,” he says. “More than anything else, I can’t believe the person [he] has become.” As protests by journalists spread this week, others expressed similar views. “When Musharraf came to power, there was no free press, no independent media,” says Khawar Naeem Hashmi, bureau chief at Geo’s Lahore office. Hashmi spent five years in prison under Pakistan’s previous military ruler, Gen. Mohammad Zia ul-Haq, in the 1980s and was blacklisted from official functions by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in 1990s. “In the last few weeks [Musharraf] has undone one of the greatest successes attributed to him,” says Hashmi. [He] will have to restore media freedom in days, not weeks."

Musharraf is unlikely to heed that plea anytime soon. Indeed, Geo was silenced shortly after the Islamabad arrival of U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, who called on the Pakistani government to lift its restrictions on the independent media. Geo is still streaming some audio and video online and hopes to resume its transmissions from Singapore, Hong Kong, Thailand or Afghanistan. But for now, Pakistanis will have to be satisfied with news from their privately owned channels that looks remarkably similar to that broadcast by state-owned Pakistan TV.

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Re: PTI is Pasha's 'test tube party': Nisar

Yeah it proves from the nonsense you are spreading here.

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AH aor us ke qaatil hawariyon ko aap kis category main shumar kartay ho?

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Musharraf muted the media only after he realized that it was going against him. We need to increase our literacy rate as well as comprehension abilities :)

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That is how dictators perform, choke the freedom of press whenever they want.

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do you also believe that elected representative can be a dictator too?

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Never. Look at Zardari's tenure of 41/2 years. Almost every channel criticized him and participants said what ever they wanted to say some times even profanity and third class language. He never put ban on such channels or news papers.

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Pakistan TV blocked from broadcasting Zardari shoe-throwing incident | Media | guardian.co.uk
Ban on Aag TV - thenews.com.pk
Geo down, ARY down… government down? – The Express Tribune Blog

heck he put ban on SMS…

Pakistan president Asif Zardari bans jokes ridiculing him - Telegraph

I thought I would not reply to idiotic posts, but blatant lies are a little too much. By the way, I was already born and an adult when Zardari blocked TV channels.

Anyways, back to the topic.

It is ironic with Ch. Nisar criticizing birth of a dictator sponsored party. He must know a lot about that. A political party being alleged as a “Test tube baby” of establishment is one thing, but a person publicly calling a dictator one’s ‘daddy’ is whole different ball game!

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Enjoy
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Re: PTI is Pasha’s ‘test tube party’: Nisar

When you post something it is also a good practice to understand it. Media outlets came about on the scene during Mushy’s tenure. He did struggle with them, so did Zardari (read about how many times we read ‘banned this, banned that’ etc).