Psychics

So I was just watching a programme on psychic investigators and how their psychic senses have helped solve hundreds of cases. There is no doubt that genuine psychics do exist.

I am just wondering.. what’s islam’s viewpoint on people who actually “practice” their psychic abilities? (if that makes sense?) … Is there a mention in the Quran/Hadith about people who have been blessed with psychic abilities?

For example, astrology isn’t liked in Islam… do similar rules apply to the services offered by psychics?

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choo mantar

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99% are there for your money, the 1% control jinns. stay far away.

but aren’t there psychics who don’t control any jinns and just work by their “extraordinary senses” ??

Like this one psychic investigator (an old lady) said she discovered her psychic powers after being struck by lightning when she was 30-something :konfused:

and all the police officers were willing to back her up saying she provides 100% accurate info on cases… ??

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extraordinary senses? I don't know about that. But as Muslims we should stay away because one who believes in such stuff is no longer a believer.

^ whats the reason behind that?

mentioned in one hadith where the Prophet(SAW) says whoever goes to one psychic (fortuneteller), he becomes a disbeliever.

hmmm ok.

Jazakallah.

One more question :p

is using psychic/fortuneteller's services a sin even when done for the purposes of solving a crime? A crime that everyone has given up hopes on otherwise... ?

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bumping this thread as would love to know the answer to your question bbc

Allah says in the Quran that only He knows the unseen and no1 else except some Prophets He choses to reveal the unseen to. So whoever claims to know the unseen in this day and age is a disbeliever and whoever goes to these people and believes in what they say, also becomes a disbeliever or borderline disbeliever (according to some ulema).. Just like black magic practitioner, those who practice it and those who buy it, both are disbelievers. Allah knows best.

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A Psychic is not a fortune teller...

CP i understand what ur saying but i still have a feeling that it’ll probably be ok for muslim investigators to approach a psychic when they’ve run out of all other options.. they’re trying to bring justice to a victim, and they’re trying to punish the person responsible… I guess its a never-ending debate… Allah knows best.

And rasheed, no, psychics are not fortune tellers…

Here’s something interesting for you guys to watch :khumar: i luff these programmes!

Also, I don’t know how these psychics work .. whether they control jinns or do they really have extraordinary senses… if they do have extraordinary senses (much more powerful than an average human being) than obviously its by Allah swt’s command, right?

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BBC:
Going to a psychic is haram even in solving a crime. Why? Because as Allah says, only He has knowledge of the unseen

“Say, "No one in the heavens and the earth has the knowledge of the Unseen except Allah." And they do not know when they will be raised again.” [al-Naml verse65]

Nobody has the knowledge of the unseen except Allah, that is why the psychics get whatever information from the jinns. These jinns are not the good jinns, they are the shayateen who eavesdrop on the angels, the same shayateen the black magicians use. There's a hadith where Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam said that jinns add 100 lies to the truth and that is why the psychics/fortunetellers get it right rarely.

If we want to solve a crime, we try our best of our abilities and use all our halal resources. Rest is left up to Allah and Allah knows best.

A Wali-ALLAH, dervish, buzurg who is not a prophet, may also be revealed the unseen by ALLAH. Since its ALLAH powers, HE can give them to anyone whom HE desires.

Black magic is something completely different.

salam all,
psyche is a totally different world, science ever can't reach to the Allah's mysteries infact where science ends Allahs secrets begins, using parapsychology many psychiatrists tried to find out many hidden things but still fails,it means only Allah has the knowledge of every thing which is still not disclosed.

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ive not seen this series but perhaps to see the weaknesses behined what the program portrays, you should watch its sister program -haunted. the one about haunted houses. ive seen that series and can see the weaknesses of the attempt

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Ok ... just expounding the conversation here. Does psychic skill always mean knowledge of ghaib or can it mean knowledge of something that is not in the ghaib but nonetheless difficult?

Fortune infers future ... that what has not passed. However psychics look at what has come to pass, it is a past event. Every event leaves an imprint so many things can record that. If a tracker tracks a bird in a desert does it mean he is using 'magic' because he is able to read such things that others are insensitive to?

Psychics claim to be like this, they do not really claim to be knowing of the future, except the 'madam mushka' variety.

I don't know the answer to the question ... you will need to ask a mufti.

Many such 'psychics are in business to 'earn their living'. 'Such 'psychics' are not & should not be relied upon unless they are very piose & pure physically, mentally & spiritually. Many of these 'psychics' even so called astrologers take help from the supernatural beings to see into future. Needless to say that it is 'shirk'.

No doubt such people exist but only those closer to God & highly poise (physically, mentally, spiritually) are reliable. One must make a clear distinction if their wisdom, knowledge & insight into the unseen is from God or if they obtain their information from the supernatural beings. Some of them are 'partially' or temporarily possessed by not necessarily 'good' demons. So relying on the information given by them must be avoided at all cost because that's 'shirk'. Such psychics would give out a combination of 'correct & incorrect' information because demons which possess them would try to create 'fitna' in humans so definitely should not be relied upon.

But that's not to say there do not exist the poise & pure beings of God who have superior wisdom, knowledge & are aware of the unseen / unknown on God's will. These people can clearly be differentiated. Such people, the true slaves of God, are not greedy, licentious, evil or have any earthy desires of this world. It is really hard to find such people but they do exist.