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In such situation/condition, is a person ready to kill another person or to be killed for another person? What is philosophy behind ‘Provoke’?
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In such situation/condition, is a person ready to kill another person or to be killed for another person? What is philosophy behind ‘Provoke’?
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lol...
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^
Whats funny ![]()
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and lol....
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and, lots of lolllzzzzz by LOLA Begum!
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Oky who is next ![]()
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Lethal,
If I understand correctly, you meant to ask why people provoke others when they know that in the given circumstances, it will result in serious consequences such as even death/murder etc.?
Is that a fair understanding?
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Yes.
What I meant here the 'provoker' due to 'provocation' in unaware from his/her current condition/act, but others who are watching him/her knows that he/she was provoked and due that he murdered or killed him/herself.
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Yes.
What I meant here the 'provoker' due to 'provocation' in unaware from his/her current condition/act, but others who are watching him/her knows that he/she was provoked and due that he murdered or killed him/herself.
so being provoked is a weakness in human beings with varying degrees. The philosophy behind a person who gets provoked could be lack of self control and lack of far-sightedness.
If you can substantiate your thoughts, and qualify your statements with some better examples, we will try to see what is the correct discussion point here in the light of philosophy and/or in spritual realm.
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Example:
Suicidal / terrorist attacks named as 'Jihad'
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^ this ayat in suratul nisa for example, is very easy to "interpret" as justifiable murder of an atheist.
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What the hell u was thinking while posting this verse? Who is talking about murder of an atheist?
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hmm, i suppose I didn't understand your question. Maybe, fix the wording on it perhaps?
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hmmmm, we suppose we did not understand what you want to say, Maybe, fix the wording and quoting the number of the verse, perhaps?
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Permission *to fight *is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged — and Allah indeed has power to help them —
Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, ‘Our Lord is Allah’ — And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty —
Sura Al-Hajj, Verse 39-40 Orthodox Muslims, Verse 40-41* Ahmadi Muslims
He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book; in it there are verses that are decisive in meaning — they are the basis of the Book — and there are others that are susceptible of different interpretations. But those in whose hearts is perversity pursue such thereof as are susceptible of different interpretations, seeking discord and seeking wrong interpretation of it. And none knows its right interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge; they say, ‘We believe in it; the whole is from our Lord.’ — And none heed except those gifted with understanding. —
Chapter Al Imran, Verse 7 Orthodox Muslims, Ahmadi Muslims Verse 8*
From this it has been made clear, that Islam forbids to Kill disbelivers who live in peace and do not transgress. The Verses 7,8* are for those who pick up certain Verses to create disorder instead of
reading the entire Book and promote peace.
*Ahmadi Muslims count "In the Name of Allah, the gracious, the Most Merciful" as a Verse.
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Bacha dar giya ![]()
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darana naheen, samjana hai ![]()
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darana naheen, samjana hai :)
"laato ke bhoot baaton se nahi samjhtain" yeh to suna hi hoga na :)
j/k
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^ this ayat in suratul nisa for example, is very easy to "interpret" as justifiable murder of an atheist.
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They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not Auliyâ' (protectors or friends) from them, till they emigrate in the Way of Allâh (to Muhammad SAW). But if they turn back (from Islâm), take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them, and take neither Auliyâ' (protectors or friends) nor helpers from them.
What I heard is that one who was Muslim, became an atheist than he/she again reverted to Islam and than again he/she became atheist. In that case kill them is used in such situation.
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What I heard is that one who was Muslim, became an atheist than he/she again reverted to Islam and than again he/she became atheist. In that case kill them is used in such situation.
Please read the Holy Qur'an again and then tell me if it's allowed to Kill someone who has left Islam and become an Atheist. That is so wrong my dear :)
If so then verse 2:256 > "La Ikra Fi-Deen" would not be valid. Maybe that MAN MADE contradiciton made our devout ex-Muslims become a Atheist.