Provincial right over power produced

With the ill-planned policy and implementation of gas usage…the next thing being proposed is that the provinces producing electricty get to use it first…

and lets suppose, south punjab is made a province… with most of the power plants in there… central and north punjab will be with no electricity…

and i am sure…this will cause punjab govt to take similar counter-actions..

if these things go ahead..what is there to stop all out provincial cold war or soemthing???

ISLAMABAD: None other than the World Bank has severely opposed the government’s proposal to grant first-usage right to the province producing electricity, arguing the policy does not make sense for an integrated power system, reveal official documents available with The News.

“The bank also expressed its opinion that the policy will most likely be economically inefficient since it will preclude the trade of power across the provinces,” the documents state. The government is planning to introduce amendments in the power policy 2002 and to this effect, the committee, headed by Secretary Water and Power Imtiaz Kazi and comprising four secretaries of the provinces, has finalised the amendments, including this critical proposal that based on the location of the power plant, the electricity requirements of the province or local area be given priority. In case the said amendment is approved by the CCI, the electricity crisis will touch a new high in the Punjab, which generates only 30 percent electricity but consumes 60 percent. Surprisingly, however, the Punjab representative in the committee did not oppose the move when the committee finalised this recommendation. While the Punjab maintained a mystifying silence over the proposed amendment, the World Bank has opposed the said amendment.

It is pertinent to mention that under the 18th Amendment, there is a clause in the Constitution under which the gas deficit has become the highest in the Punjab as compared to other provinces. Under the said clause, the province producing gas has the fist right to consume it and the remainder is to be passed on to such federating unit where gas is not abundantly available. This is the main reason that the Punjab is facing a massive gas deficit leading to a massive surge in unemployment as many industrial units have virtually closed down in the wake of non-availability of gas. If the CCI approves the recommended proposal, the Punjab will be exposed to ever more power outages.

Under another proposal that has also been finalised by the committee, the Water Use Charge (WUC) will also be increased to Rs0.425 per unit without annual indexation. The WUC will be reviewed every five years in order to determine whether an increase in the WUC is necessary. In this case, the World Bank has said that the every five years, the WUC review must not be left open ended. Farooq Energy Company has opposed this proposal saying that an increase in WUC is a pass-through item and would lead to higher average hydro tariff.

The committee has also decided that carbon credits earned through clean energy projects from the UN will be utilised for project maintenance and welfare of affected people on an equal basis. The World Bank said that the recommendation should be consistent with the mechanism to share carbon revenues as explained in the government policy for the development of renewable energy 2006.

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Perhaps, it might force punjab to explore alternative venues of producing power.

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punjab govt is too busy distributing laptops and firing people of medicine scandal and advertising in papers..........

even if it can force............. there is no provincial setup/capacity to develop such enormous resources............ it would take decades may be...........

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Isn't there PEPCO that can be expanded outside of lahore? Oh right, I think they only distribute power.

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Produce electricity with what.. Furnace Oil which is 200% taxed or Diesel which is 150% taxed.. or wind power or solar which cost over Rs 25/ per unit. One one hand there is a loot sale of gas to captive plants which produce electricity for Re. 5/ per unit.. on the other hand Diesel and Furnace oil are subject to heavy federal levies. Don't forget Punjab is 60% of Pakistan's population.. and to target this population in the name of provincial autonomy can not go on.

You can not have indiscriminate load shedding in Punjab from the national grid.. and make Punjab completely energy starved for any sort of industrialization. If Punjab has to generate electricity from POL products.. federal levies should be abolished on these products and let all the provinces take care of their own energy needs. Generation of electricity from furnace oil will not cost more than Rs. 10/ per unit if there are no federal levies which is perfectly feasible for Punjab. Centre can not put all the levies on one province's energy source and give a tax free status to the energy source of other provinces.

There is no rational in Federal government's policy which are being perceived as anti Punjab. With a huge loss of jobs and general misery of people with 12 hour average load shedding.. it's going to cost PPP government a huge set back in coming election in Punjab where the party faces a near wipe out from the electoral representation in the province..

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In India when MP was divided in two. the new state had all the natural resources, power plants, mines, jungles and rivers. it didnt stop MP's daily life. they bought power from the new state untill they had built their own power plants. still they buy it from the new state but not having power plants is no issue.
so far rajasthan was buying power from delhi but by next year it will be power surplus.
point is, these are non issues and developing country should have ability and will to counter these minor problems.

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Punjab can quite easily generate power using its bigger water resources. Based on the PPP govt's formula, the state with the resources gets to use it first, and whatever remains, will be distributed onwards. So Punjab can do that, but of course, PPP will incite sindh against that, using the water card.

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You are not getting the point I am trying to make. Strength of Punjab is not oil, gas or coal. Punjab's strength is industry and agriculture which needs energy. You can not have policies:

1) when you have to collect taxes for federal government you want to keep the rights with federal government and squeeze provinces with levies and taxes.

2) When it comes to distribution of energy you want the provinces to take care of themselves.. arrange their own energy after paying hefty tax to the federal government.

Diesel is a major input cost of Punjab agriculture which is subjected to heavy taxation. Similarly Punjab needs uninterrupted power from national grid to run it's industrial sector which is subject to indiscriminate load shedding of 12 hours compared to other provinces.

Punjab is viable in both the scenarios. We can generate thermal energy and afford the same provided the input fuel can be provided without any federal tax.. or federal government collects the taxes and take care of Punjab's legitimate requirements indiscriminately. If Punjab can import POL products without federal taxes we can take care of our energy requirements and afford electricity even if it is a little higher in price through thermal generation. There are enough power generation plants in Punjab.

This can not continue that Punjab keeps on paying heavy taxes on POL products (around 400 billion per annum) and is totally deprived of the energy needs. Either energy should be entirely a provincial subject or it should be entirely a federal subject. Just for revenue collection it can not be federal subject. and for supplying the legitimate requirements you tell the provinces to go to hell.. specially in case of Punjab..

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Punjab has been sacrificing its share of water too to sindh and balochistan, but when it comes to Punjab's turn 18th amendment is strictly followed. Anyways, suppose the government succeeds in destroying Punjab's industry will that help Pakistan? Can any government in this world operate without taxes and foreign exchange? If the federal government thinks so all power to them.

The distribution companies of Punjab have the highest billing recovery rate 80-90 % or above) and their share is being reduced to provide to KESC (which has a very poor recovery rate) which will further increase the deficit of Wapda. I really dont understand the policies of the government.

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Just for the understanding of the forum readers...

There are federal tax levies on import stage on all sort of POL products. The consumer price is fixed by the government after calculating following components:

COMPONENTS IN CALCULATING THE SELLING PRICE OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS

Consumer prices in Pakistan are made up of the following elements:

1) Ex-refinery price based on concept of “Import Parity”

2) Government levies (excise duty and Petroleum Development Levy)

3) Inland freight

4) Distributor and dealer margins

5) Sales tax

Presently the Federal government is collecting approx. 400 billion annually from 3 different taxes on POL:

a) Excise Duty
b) Petroleum Development Levy
c) Sales Tax

All these taxes are collected at import stage/refinery sale stage etc. These are not collected at retail stage. The price of POL products at retail stage has inbuilt taxes which have already been collected.

For example the the import parity price for diesel at $100 is about Rs 35/ per liter.. while retail price of around Rs. 100/ per liter already includes more than Rs 55/ cumulative taxes per liter ( all three federal taxes included).

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@Ali_Syed

As far as water is concerned I don't agree with you.

In Punjab we waste a lot of water. There are a lot of areas in Punjab which have sufficient under ground water but they are still irrigated by canals because it's cheaper. Growers in Punjab use flooding system to irrigate their lands. Flood irrigation should be totally banned.. areas with under ground water should not be provided river water.

In a totally nationalistic approach.. we should make water storages and provide all the additional water to uncultivated areas of Southern Punjab, Sind, and Baluchistan. Believe me if we start drip irrigation all over the country, we have sufficient water to irrigate whole of Southern Punjab, Sindh, and Baluchistan. Furthermore if water wastage is stopped in Punjab, and all the additional water is given to Baluchistan and Sindh.. they will never oppose dams.

We need a totally nationalistic approach for common benefit. This regionalism/provincialism will not take us anywhere. Decisions must be taken on national basis which can benefit the whole country instead of pulling each other's legs.

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The one in power today do not believe in industrial development in any province of Pakistan, because this bring education, awareness and lots of other benefit to the society and at the same time it takes away or weakens control feudal enjoy...

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@yazdi

The problem with water wastage in Punjab is, most of them don't realize they are wasting it!!!

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Even if most realize it, then who is going to enforce it? I don't know if it is just that people don't know as the mantra of drip irrigation has been in Pakistan for a long time. Ultimately, the flooding thing doesn't help Punjab either since the water table rises and makes that land useless (flooding also washes away more top soil), while areas in southern punjab are drying up which are infamous in urdu of being called same thor. Pakistan is going in for a rude awakening in the future with reduced agricultural land + huge population (350 million in 2050?).