Propoganda or Covert Activities?

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This begs one question and only one in my eyes. Here is the process I use.

  1. Terrorists are Islamic Extremists
  2. As Islamic Extremists they hold the muslim people to be their base
  3. Yet they go around destorying religious shrines and places important to all Muslims.

Anybody see the obvious paradox with the information we are feed by the media and then the actions that are supposedly taken by terrorists.

I don’t want to discuss the matter. What I would however like to know is when you hear of such a thing do you assume it was a muslim or do you think it was the US and allied govts running a covert mission to reach a certain objective?

In this case to weaken any chance of a Shia-Sunni govt. After all Democracy has led to more religious parties winning the elections in Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq.

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Thats just sad.

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Let me start the rumor that everyone wants to hear anyway:

It was a covert CIA operation in order to discredit the brave people fighting the Americans in Iraq. They paid a bunch of people like they do in Pakistan to come bullet spray & bomb the shrine.

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Ahmadjee, you did not mention the jews and mossad in your conspiracy.

Y are MEN unfaithful, and what should we do???
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There are Israeli Agencies working in Northern Iraq. As for as the shrine goes, it is to turn the lost war to civil war.

Why Pakistani dude and white girls/women end up in divorce ?
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in this day and age anything is possible. Not like it hasn't happened in the past. I remember someone telling me about a Christian guy living in the Kurdish area in Turkey pretending to be a Muslim and causing problems between different muslim groups.

Wallahu Alam - We muslims are good at killing ourselves too.

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We muslims are good at killing ourselves too.

Totally agree

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i think it was done by Iran, and pro Iran militia. it only serves the interest of Iran to have this civil war.

One of those Co-workers' Quotes
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^ thats pathetic shah. I thought you would know better. Iran would never do such a thing.

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^ my friend, cause is always bigger then religion.

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and what cause it is, may i ask?

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attention of the world/US and EU will be away from Iran in that time Iran will do its uranium enrichment and try to achieve whatever nuclear objectives it want.

PS: its just my opinion.

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thats the most ridiculous thing (sry) but no...
do not consider US/EU lil kids running around the streets; yes i know they are idiots but diversion....no.

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Got it in the email today, quoting:

"This is a political crime and one must find its root in the intelligent bodies of Iraq's occupiers and the Zionists."

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If it's in an email, it must be true

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The reasoning used; “one must find its root” makes it more like a proclamation obviously needing no proof.

EDIT:

In case I be sited for taking things out of context, here is the whole email (after multiple forwards):

"*From: SFM [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: TMS [email protected]
Subject: [TheMuslimServices] Crimes in Sammara - Seek guidance from the leaders
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:40:27 -0800 (PST)

Salamun Alaikum,

Muslim Unity is the need of our time. Please do not listen to anybody who undermine the Muslim Unity. This is the path of Imam Ali AS, this the path of Imam Khomenie RA, and this is the path of our leader Syed Ali Khamenai (may Allah protect him). Anyone who try to use today’s tragic incident to divide Muslims is actually far away from the policy of our leaders.

We must understand the conspiracies of the YAZEEDS of our time – the big shaitan America and their partners – who continously adopted the policy of divide and rule in Muslim lands. Recent success of Islamic Iran, Elections in Iraq, Hezbullah in Lebanon and Hamas in Palestine are the reason of attack on Quran, attack on our Prophet SAWW and now attack on the houshold of Prophet SAWW.

Please read the leader’s message and act accordingly. Also support the demonstrations in your areas against these crimes.

note: this e-mail is being sent worldwide to all Muslims, please help spread the message, ASAP.

Wassalam,
Fayyaz Mehdi
Toronto

2006/02/22
Leader’s message on Sammara tragedy
07:07:23 È.Ù
Tehran, Feb 22 - Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Sayed Ali Khamenei in a statement Wednesday expressed condolences over the tragic profane made to the holy shrine of Shiite Imams, Imam Hadi (A.S.) and Imam Hassan Asgari (A.S.) in Iraq, proclaiming a week of national mourning. The statement reads as follows.

Bismillah-e Rahman-e Rahim
We Belong to Allah and We Shall Return to Him

The felonious and bloody hand of malevolent criminals created a large tragedy today and committed another sin in aggressing religious sanctities. The reverent mausoleum of Hazrat Imam Hadi and Imam Asgari, peace be upon them, became subject to sacrilege and destruction leaving thereby an unbearable grief in the hearts of Shiites and the overall Muslims who feel love for (Islam’s prophet) household, peace be upon them. The criminal act, whose perpetrators are possibly chosen from among hardline bigots or ill-fated and negligent mercenaries, has been planned by conspirators who have evil and malicious intentions.

This is a political crime and one must find its root in the intelligent bodies of Iraq’s occupiers and the Zionists. Dominance-seeking powers, who find Iraqi political and social situation contrary to their hegemonic aims, are plotting in mind malicious ploys, including among others, to fan insecurity and sow religious discords.

Today’s criminal act in Sammara added another page to the black record of Iraq’s occupiers. The holy shrine of the Askariyin (the two Imams), peace be upon them, will once again get back into full swing by the zealous work of the lovers of the household, peace be upon them, God willing. Nevertheless, the criminal act left a dark blot on the forehead of Islam’s enemies which may no be removed even for a long time.

I express my condolences for the tragic event to the reverent Prophet of Islam, may Allah pray for him and his family, and to the lofty status of the Baghiyat-Allah (the last Imam), may our souls be sacrificed to him, as well as all Shiite population worldwide and all zealous and aware Muslims who feel love for the pure household of God’s prophet, peace be upon him and them. I proclaim a week of public mourning in the country.

I consider it as necessary to plea for the mourners in Iran, Iraq and other parts of the world to seriously refrain from any action which leads in confrontation and enmity among Muslim brethren. Definitely, there are hands behind which push Shiites to profane mosques and sacred places of Sunni people. Any move in this regard will promote the intentions of enemies of Islam and Muslim nations and is prohibited by the statute.

And Peace be to the righteous servants of Allah
Sayed Ali Khamenei
February 22, 2006

Wassalam,
Syed Fayyaz Mehdi Rizvi
Toronto*"