Prophet's (SAW) birthplace up for demolition/petition/article(s) (merged)

Why does the Muslim world not say anything when Muslims brothers carry out such acys of defamation and destruction to holy Islamic sites? Are we numbed by their wealth or are is it a case of selective amnesia? Whatever the case maybe, this has been going on for 70 years and needs to be stopped, immediately.

Prophet’s birthplace up for demolition

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: The Saudi embassies in Washington, Ottawa and London are likely to be soon flooded with mail from shocked Muslims urging that the birthplace of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) not be bulldozed.

A report in the London newspaper The Independent, says, “Now the actual birthplace of the Prophet Mohamed is facing the bulldozers, with the connivance of Saudi religious authorities whose hardline interpretation of Islam is compelling them to wipe out their own heritage.”

According to progressive Canadian Muslim broadcaster and activist, Toronto-based Tarek Fatah, “In January 2002, Turkey accused Saudi Arabia of a ‘cultural massacre’ following the demolition of an historic Ottoman castle near the holy city of Mecca. The spat between Turkey and Saudi Arabia barely caused a stir anywhere in the Muslim world, let alone international circles. The Ottoman fort’s destruction is not the only massacre of culture that the Saudis have done in the name of money and Islam. In the 1980s, they demolished part of the two hills of Safaa and Marwah to build a palace for the late King Khaled.

These historic hills were where Abraham left Hagar, and where Muslims during Haj run between the two hills to commemorate Hagar’s search for water for her infant son. Not one Imam or Muslim leader protested. After all millions of dollars have the power of silencing even the most pious. But that is not all. The Saudis are now planning to destroy the very house of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

The Independent article quotes Sami Angawi, a Saudi architect, “What we are witnessing are the last days of Mecca and Medina.” According to Dr Angawi - who has dedicated his life to preserving Islam’s two holiest cities - as few as 20 structures are left that date back to the lifetime of the Prophet 1,400 years ago and those that remain could be bulldozed at any time. “This is the end of history in Mecca and Medina and the end of their future,” said Dr Angawi. The driving force behind the demolition campaign that has transformed these cities is Wahhabism.

The motive behind the destruction is the Wahhabists’ fanatical fear that places of historical and religious interest could give rise to idolatry or polytheism, the worship of multiple and potentially equal gods. Idolatry is punishable be beheading in the kingdom.

According to the London newspaper, “The Wahhabists now have the birthplace of the Prophet in their sights. The site survived redevelopment early in the reign of King Abdul al-Aziz ibn Saud 50 years ago when the architect for a library there persuaded the absolute ruler to allow him to keep the remains under the new structure. That concession is under threat after Saudi authorities approved plans to ‘update’ the library with a new structure that would concrete over the existing foundations and their priceless remains.” Dr Angawi says that the bulldozers could come “at any time” and the Prophet’s birthplace would be gone in a single night. Ali al-Ahmed, the head of the Gulf Institute has said, “The destruction of Islamic landmarks in Hijaz is the largest in history, and worse than the desecration of the Koran.”

Dr Angawi has said, “The man-made history of Mecca has gone and now the Mecca that God made is going as well. The projects that are coming up are going to finish them historically, architecturally and environmentally.” The kingdom cannot cope with the increase in the number of pilgrims and new hotels, apartments and services are badly needed, director of a leading Saudi estate agency told Reuters.

Ahmed does not see that as the reason. According to him, “The service of pilgrims is not the goal really. If they were concerned for the pilgrims, they would have built a railroad between Mecca and Jeddah, and Mecca and Medina. They are removing any historical landmark that is not Saudi-Wahhabi, and using the prime location to make money.”

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it is quite rubbish to say the least

Creating an issue from a non-issue. The number of pilgrims have increased so much that they need to build more lodging facilities in the city. It is very simple and logical. like they said

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The kingdom cannot cope with the increase in the number of pilgrims and new hotels, apartments and services are badly needed, director of a leading Saudi estate agency told Reuters
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More than hundred million muslims visit the holy cities every year, so naturaly they need more hotels and apartments

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Iam afraid thats not a good excuse, millions are streaming thru the Vatican every year irrespective of their religion, yet they do not destroy their heritage or religious sites for lack of space. Like they say back home, Dil mein jaga honi chahiya (roughly translated: have a heart). Question is not lack of space, but the hardline wahabi thinking which has destroyed many religious and historical sites for fear of idolatry

It is also a fact that the followers of Abdul Wahab are not in favor of having Roza Rasool (Prophets grave, resting place) thus their urgency to decimate anything related to human beings.

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if people stopped worshippin these places and stopped thinkin it brings them benefit by touching and kissing them and also praying towards them maybe they wudnt hav to knock these down.

the only 3 islamic holy sites and the haram, masjid nabi(saw) and masjid al Aqsa.
is it a sin to knock these sights down?

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It seems a bit annoying - although I would not have liked to see the Turkish castle go down - after all history has its place...

But I agree - too many muslims consider the Prophet as almost as a God, and demolishing the birthplace is not a bad idea to curb what is essentially idolatry.

They also destroyed his house - the first one he had with Khadija in Mecca and where his family was born and which he lived in when he got his first revelation.

Keep in mind the site where he was receiving revelations in the cave - where he meditated etc - that is still intact. I would think that would be a more important historical site than the birthplace of the Prophet. The Prophet didn't want to be idolized, and unfortunately that is what they are doing.

I agree with faisal as salafi.

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Your reasoning has been used by the wahabi apologists, fact is if such acts were committed they were a minority. Why were they never touched throughout the centuries? why only when Abdul Wahab and his followers occupied the holy sites? When neocons use 9/11 as an excuse to paint the entire muslim community as evil we all get offended, rightly so cause it does not represent the majority view. Similarly, acts carried out by the wahabis do not represent the amjority opinion.

Furthermore, having reverence for your Prophets house or the places he visited does not mean god forbid that he is being equated with God. That is simply wrong assumption and a old propaganda tool used by those who do not agree with such emotional linkages.

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Such places which pertain to Prophets(as) have an influence over above that of simply reminding people of their past. They also enhance faith and orientation towards these great people.

Such places are to be preseverd not destroyed. We as muslims should make every effort to presever all traces of the Prophet(as) and to safeguard and honour houses connected to him.

Its a shame those kings have palaces and cant leave the house of the holy Prophet(pbuh). Shame on saudis

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PCG,
Do you know how many time Prophet is mentioned in your prayers? Do u know what u are saying in your prayers? Does that mean we are God forbid equating him with Allah? Absolutely not. It wud be better if u brushed up your knowledge on Islamic history, Quranic tafseer and Fiqh before making judgements on others. To be a Muslim its a must to belief in Tawheed (Onness of God), then how can you make such an assumption?

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does this mean the house is presently out of sight anyway… enclosed within the foundations/below ground? or can it be visited?

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Can someone remind me what religious significance the Prophet (pbuh) said his house had? Can you quote the relevant Hadiths with their source please? Thanks :)

After all, if the Prophet did not assign any religious significance to it then I'm sure that no one would come up with a religiously tied reason to preserve it....

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Agreed!

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Iam referring to many other sites which have been decimated over the last 50years, thoiugh I get your sarcasm, not appreciated.

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Prophet didnt say many things, he didnt say whether we can use the computer or not, whether we sud bs on GS or not, yet we choose to do so. Did I say they were places of religious significance? I said revered, there is a difference btw religious and revered go check the english dictionary…

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huh?! [scratches head]… how about actually answering the question instead of seeing sarcasm where none was intended

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Guppy u have my answer, Iam not going to cross swords on issues u and i clearly disagree…

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The problem is that in a faith where politics, history and religion are combined, something being revered for political or historical reasons is one small step away from being revered for religious reasons.

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During my 3 visits to Makkah i have not seen the birthplace of Prophet saw. I haven't even heard from anyone so far that he/she has visited his house.

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In the 1980s, they demolished part of the two hills of Safaa and Marwah to build a palace for the late King Khaled.

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There is no palace near the remains of the hills, small parts of the hill are inside the mosque rest have been destroyed and in that place there are walls of mosque, roads and market

Though i agree that if it is there it should not be destroyed and people shud be let to visit

there are other ways to tell people that Prophet saw is not God........Quran
i feel the whole story is fake

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you what bro? wahhabi apologist? what are you talkin abt? anyway whats a wahhabi please define cos as far as i no its a name used by the ignorant. i think u shud read abt the life of sheikh muhammad ibn abdul wahhab before you start. whats this abt majority/minority?

dnt bring in that myth abt the majority will always be upon the truth.

you say " having reverence for your Prophets house or the places he visited does not mean god forbid that he is being equated with God" well im sure bowing to them and praring towards them is wudnt u agree brother?

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now you are seeing disagreements where there probably aren’t any… i too would prefer to see these sites and relics kept intact…

although in this instance if the house is already underground, inaccessible to the public, it seems purely academic to argue for its preservation… at least let’s have some photographic records kept for posterity

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Assumptions based on a person or group perception does not make it a reality. Iam sorry, assumptions or fears of someone or something doesnt mean society should ‘preempt’ such acts. Remember Bush bhai’s famous right of pre-emption? Its unjust, illogical and self-righteous.