how many kid he had except bibi fatima and from which zuja?
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He had all his children from Hazrat Khadija, except for Hazrat Ibrahim who was from Hazrat Maria. From Hazarat Khadija he had four daughters and two sons.
(1) Hazrat Umme Kalsoom
(2) Hazrat Ruqayya
(3) Hazrat Zainab
(4) Hazrat Fatima
(5) Hazrat Qasim
(6) Hazrat Abdullah
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I am with the opinion that Ruqqaya, Umme Kulsoom, and Zainab were not the real daughters of the Prophet (saww). Reason why I say that is because Prophet (saww) got married at the age of 25. He did not have any children until he was 29 (some traditions say 30). It was another ten years then before the open declaration of baasat (Prophethood) when Prophet's age was 40 years. History says that that the three daughters (Zainab, Ruqaayya, Kulsoom) were married to Utba, Uteba and Abu al Aa's bin Rab'ee at the time of the declaration of the Prophethood. This means that Qasim plus 3 daughters, if they were real, were born within the period of 10 years from Khadija (as) and within that time these women got married and had children all within 10 years! Really does not add up.
Secondly why do all the Syeds today trace back their ancestors to Ali and Fatima (as) (sons of the Prophet saww died very young so there is no question of an offspring). Where are the descendants of all the other daughters?
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I am with the opinion that Ruqqaya, Umme Kulsoom, and Zainab were not the real daughters of the Prophet (saww). Reason why I say that is because Prophet (saww) got married at the age of 25. He did not have any children until he was 29 (some traditions say 30). It was another ten years then before the open declaration of baasat (Prophethood) when Prophet's age was 40 years. History says that that the three daughters (Zainab, Ruqaayya, Kulsoom) were married to Utba, Uteba and Abu al Aa's bin Rab'ee at the time of the declaration of the Prophethood. This means that Qasim plus 3 daughters, if they were real, were born within the period of 10 years from Khadija (as) and within that time these women got married and had children all within 10 years! Really does not add up. Secondly why do all the Syeds today trace back their ancestors to Ali and Fatima (as) (sons of the Prophet saww died very young so there is no question of an offspring). Where are the descendants of all the other daughters?
youve taken a good slapping on this subject before
dont delude yourself about truth, truth is with ahle sunnah wal jama'ah
your religion is to see what mainstream islam follows then to pick something else. so dont delude yourself that you are being told the truth. it is not the truth but someone said that someone said that someone said imam said follow something else, in it is guidance
truely heretical
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^ Sister ramesha that view only limited only to the Shia though evidence is against them even in their own books.
Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) had 4 daughters – This is a historical fact.
In all the books whether they be Shia oriented or Sunni oriented; they all refer to them as:** bint Muhammad**
Zainab bint Muhammad (ra)
Ruqayyah bint Muhammad (ra)
Umm Kulthum bint Muhammad (ra)
Fatima bint Muhammad (ra)
Hz Zayd ibn Harithah (ra) was adopted ‘son’ of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and was always addressed as Zayd bin Muhammad as it was the custom at that time to give the adopted child the adopting father’s name.
*Assert their relationship to their fathers; this is more equitable with Allah; but if you do not know their fathers, then they are your brethren in faith and your friends; and there is no blame on you concerning that in which you made a mistake, but (concerning) that which your hearts do purposely (blame may rest on you), and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Quran [33:5]
After the above surah was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) Zayd was always addressed as Zayd ibn Harithah henceforth.
Historically All the Prophet (saw)’s daughters (raa) have carried the paternal name of Bint Muhammad.
We see that prominent Shia website do acknowledge that Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) had 4 daughters!
Khadija, peace be upon her, was the first woman who believed in the Prophet’s divine prophecy. She put all her wealth at his disposal to propagate and promote Islam. Six children were born of his marriage: two sons named Qasim and Tahir who passed away as infants in Makkah and four daughers named Ruqiyah, Zaynab, Umm Kulsum, and Fatima, who was the most prominent and honoured of them all. -** Bihar ul-Anwar p.3; A’yan, p.18; A’lam, p.146.
**http://www.al-islam.org/glance/4.htm
Quite a few Shia Scholars acknowledge the fact that Prophet Muhammad (Peace be up on him) had 4 daughters but overwhelming just deny this historical fact and the reason for this is quite obvious.
A brief details about Prophet’s (Peace be upon him) daughters
**Umm Kulthum bint Muhammad **(died 9 A.H./630 A.D.) : She was born to Khadijah. She married Utaibah bin Abi Lahab during the pre-Islamic era. Utaibah was told by his father to divorce her upon the revelation of the Qur’anic verse that reads “May the hands of Abu Lahab perish! May he himself perish” (Surah Al-Masad, Verse 1). She migrated to Medina. After the death of her sister Ruqaiyah who was married to Uthman bin Affan, `Uthman married her.
Ruqaiyah bint Muhammad (died 2 A.H.) : She was born to Khadijah. She was married to Utbah bin Abi Lahab in the pre-Islamic era, but when Islam emerged and the Qur'anic verse "May the hands of Abu Lahab perish! May he himself perish" (Surah Al-Masad, Verse 1) was revealed, Abu Lahab told his son to divorce her. She married Uthman bin `Affan and migrated with him to Abyssinia then to Medina where she died.
**Zainab bint Muhammad **(died 8 A.H.) : The eldest of the Prophet’s daughters. She was married to Abu Al-As bin Al-Rabi. She embraced Islam and migrated to Medina, but her husband refused to embrace Islam and stayed at Mecca. When her husband was taken in captivity in the Battle of Badr, the Prophet (peace be upon him) asked him to divorce her. When Abu Al-`As, however, embraced Islam, he was reunited with his wife.
**Fatimah bint Muhammad **(died 11 A.H.) : She was born to Khadijah. She was the youngest of the Prophet’s daughters and the most beloved to him. She was one of the most wise and eloquent women of the Quraish. She was married to `Ali bin Abi Talib and she gave birth to Al-Hasan, Al-Husain, Umm Kulthum and Zainab. She died six months after the Prophet’s death.
I wish you had read the history well - none of the grandchildren of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) lived long enough to have their own offspring. Allah (swt) in most esteemed Wisdom Willed that Prophet’s (Peace be upon him) lineage continued through his youngest daughter Lady Fatimah (ra).
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^ Sister ramesha that view only limited only to the Shia though evidence is against them even in their own books.
I am aware of both the Shia and Sunni position on this. Could you clarify where I may be wrong in my assumption?
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I wish you had read the history well - none of the grandchildren of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) lived long enough to have their own offspring. Allah (swt) in most esteemed Wisdom Willed that Prophet's (Peace be upon him) lineage continued through his youngest daughter Lady Fatimah (ra).
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are you saying that Ruqqaya, Umme Kulsoom, and Zainab had children but they all died? could you please refer me to a source on this if you could? thanks in advance.
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dont delude yourself about truth, truth is with ahle sunnah wal jama'ah
I tend to stay away from this type but would just like to quickly point out that truth does not revolve around anybody or any "jama'ah" but it is us who are subservient to the truth. Think!
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I tend to stay away from this type but would just like to quickly point out that truth does not revolve around anybody or any "jama'ah" but it is us who are subservient to the truth. Think!
'think!' its a bit like 'logic' i saw rafidiites pushing once upon a time. never seen it applied ever by them
are you disputing that your religion is to follow 'something else'?
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how many kid he had except bibi fatima and from which zuja?
Why do you want to know or even care?
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The reason you are wrong is that you are ignoring the facts from Shias sources where it is confirmed that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) had four daughters! The reason being that the Shia want to give exclusivity to Hz. Ali (ra) being the ONLY Son in law of the Prophet (Peace be upon him)!!
Certainly! Here we go!
Ruqayyah the daughter of the Messenger of Allah (salAllahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) who bore him ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Uthman. (with marriage with Uthman bin Affan (ra))
Read the Chapter “His family”
He had nine sons from five wives. They were: ‘Abd-Allah, whose mother was Ruqayyah the daughter of the Messenger of Allah (salAllahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). He was born two years before the Hijrah and his mother took with her when she migrated with her husband ‘Uthman to Madinah. During his first days in Madinah a rooster pecked him on the face, near his eye, and the (infection) spread until it covered his face. He died in 4AH when he was six years old.[14]
14- al-Ameen Dhul-Noorayn, by Mahmoud Shakir, p.365, al-Tamheed wa’l-Bayan fi Maqtal al-
Shaheed ‘Uthman, p. 19
Zainab Bint Muhammad (ra) was married to her maternal cousin Abu al-Aas ibn al-Rabiah (ra). She became the mother of two children: Ali and Umamah. Ali died during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad.
So the other (besides those born to Lady Fatimah (ra)) grandchildren of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) are:
Abd-Allah bin Uthman bin Affan
Ali bin Abu al-Aas ibn al-Rabiah
Umamah bint Abu al-Aas ibn al-Rabiah
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I have read the opinions of the classic Shia scholars such as Mufid, Saduq, Hilli and found them to be of the opinion that Prophet (saww) had 4 daughters so I do not think that the idea of one-daughter-only has got much to do with giving Imam Ali another exclusivity. I think the idea has stemmed from lack of information about the other daughters.
As soon as I get some time from work I will look into this information. Jazak Allah khair.
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You are welcome sister!
Besides you can refer to the following ayah of the Quran:
“O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran, 33:59)
Allah (swt) is addressing the Prophet (Peace be upon him) directly and has the word 'daughters' in plural (confirming that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) had more than one daughter! Had there been only one daughter Allah (swt) would have used it in singular.
Also Hz. Ali (ra) has confirmed that Hz. Uthman bin Affan is the son in law of the Prophet (Peace be upon him)
*"The people are behind me and they have made me an ambassador between you and themselves; but by Allah, I do not know what to say to you. I know nothing (in this matter) which you do not know, nor can I lead you to any matter of which you are not aware. You certainly know what we know, we have not come to know anything before you which we could tell you; nor did we learn anything in secret which we should convey to you. You have seen as we have seen and you have heard as we have heard. You sat in the company of the Prophet of Allah as we did.
(Abu Bakr) Ibn Abi Quhafah and (`Umar) ibn al-Khattab were no more responsible for acting righteously than you, since you are nearer than both of them to the Prophet of Allah through kinship, and you also hold relationship to him by marriage which they do not hold". **Nahjul Balagha Sermon 163*
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Sister I just got very important information for you!
Umamah bint Zainab (Umamah bint Abu al-Aas ibn al-Rabiah) married Hz. Ali (ra)!!!
After the death of her aunt Fatimah she married Muhammad’s cousin Ali ibn Abu Talib. They had a son, Hilal ibn Ali. She died in 66 AH (circa 685 CE).
Hz. Ali (ra) had 2 sons By Umama Bint Abul-Aas, daughter of Zaynab bint Muhammad
Hilal ibn Ali, died in Khurasan, 64 A.H.[2]
Awn ibn Ali, died in Khurasan, 64 A.H.[3]
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Sister ramesha chk ur email.....
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Ramesha, here is a link to book, which addresses various conflicting issues between Muslim community (including issue of Rasoolallah's SAW daughter on pages 36 to 57)
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Another link for the book:
http://www.4shared.com/document/T8IvVKtf/Tuhfa_e_Imamia_By_Sheikh_Mehr_.html
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Let me take advantage of this thread to pass on something which may interest someone.
At the demise of Hazrat Ibrahim, Prophet Mohammad [sa] made an important statement which remains on record to this day:
IT IS NARRATED BY HAZRAT IBNE ABBAAS (R.A.) THAT WHEN IBRAHIM, SON OF THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH PASSED AWAY, THE PROPHET (PBUH) SAID HIS FUNERAL PRAYER AND SAID THAT THERE IS A NURSE FOR HIM IN PARADISE AND IF HE HAD LIVED HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A TRUE PROPHET (Ibne Maja vol. 1, Kitaabal Janaiz, p. 237)
It is interesting to note that Ibrahim passed away a number of years after the verse about "Khatam-an-Nabiyyeen" was revealed. He died in the year 9 A.H. and the verse was revealed in 5 AH. About four years after he knew through revelation that he was "Khataman Nabiyyeen", his saying about his son: had he lived, he would certainly have been a prophet, clearly implies that he himself did not interpret the meaning of "Khatam-an-Nabiyyeen" literally, as "Last of the Prophets".
Just a thought and a tangent reply. Hope it may help you ponder.
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^ Just a Qadiyani propaganda.
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Zalim! Deviating from the topic of the thread, I’m posting link to your above query. Will provide further material if so required by you.
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Peace Suhaina,
Read this thread for more information.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-scripture/482580-need-to-know-for-the-sake-of-knowledge.html