Prophet Mohammed nine year old wife

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How come no one seems to make an issue out of the 80 something year old Joseph marrying the 12 year old pregnant virgin Mary?

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say wha? context please.

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Doesn't the pregnant virgin part ring a bell?

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Does an average Muslim believe that Mary married an 80 year old Joseph? Whats the point of bringing it up here?

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An average Muslim doesn't even know how old Joseph was when he married Mary. LOL Thanks for proving my point, average Muslim.

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why would an average Muslim bother with other religions :P? Most like to stay ignorant and then whine about other people being ignorant.

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There is clearly is musch disagreement on this matter amongst Muslima and non.

Some people say that marrying a child that young is acceptable because the population generally didnt live that long but that certainily is not the case here as Mohammed got married many times only once to a girl so young, he also married his senior in age Khadija. So woman of maturity were in abundance.

To the people who do not have an issue with it, do you think it is acceptable for a 40 year old man to marry and have intercourse with a nine year old in the present day? If not, why?

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Religion forum can't be called religion forum without this same topic appearing after every 6 months. lol

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that is one dimension but it was more because of religion. Prophet (SAW) had wives of all ages and Islamic rulings especially specificly related to women of different ages come from the narrations of these mothers of the Ummah.

We have learnt 25% of our religion just from Syeda Aisha (RA). She has narrated over 2000+ ahadeeth most of which are basis of a lot of rulings by Fuqaha.

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in the western countries the age may have to be a bit older but in poorer parts of the world, or where children are allowed to venture out earlier, where children grow that bit faster a similar age is still good in my opinion

for richer kids of the modern age about 10 or 11,at this age i think they are capable of marriage but these children are not geared/expectant towards marriage early. capability and gearing are two different facets. both should be for marriage for it to work

however to answer your question directly yes i would accept and wish all the best to a married couple, involving a 40 year old man, and a 9 year old girl who has entered natures adulthood, who have been given consent by the brides father to marry

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Thanks for the answer shardmanny, although quite controversial nonetheless very honest.

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Firstly we cannot superimpose our ideals to the cultures which existed over 1400 years ago. That was the time when Arabs used to bury their daughters alive, they could be married at any age, and no consent was required for the purpose. Islam showed a better way to do this, Ayesha's (RA) consent was sought at 6, and when she agreed the marriage took place at age 9. This was not an unusual age for girls to get married back then. In the western countries even till the 18th century the age of consent was 7 and they could be married between 7 to 12, no parental consent was required after 12. As far as the age difference is concerned even that's not something out of the blue as well, although the ages of Mary (RA) and Joseph (RA) have not been given in Bible, but some people insist that Mary (RA) was between 12 and 14 and Joseph (RA) was between 50 to 90.

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As far as the acceptable age for marriage is concerned a lot has changed during the past two generations, if we just go to our grand fathers generation women used to be married between 16 to 18 years, but now that's considered too early. Now girls are on the average being married around 25 to 30 years (socially acceptable) due to the pressures of getting set.

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I think the entire age topic is a bs made up by ppl to support their own agendas.
If people will accept the accounts of the so called sources and compilations then they should accept the rest as truth as well.

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The point that you obviously didn't deduce from my post was that this specific thread is about Islamic history not Christian history I do not think that Muslims believe Hazrat Mariam to have married at all so the comparison between the christian belief of Joseph being 80 or whatever with the topic at hand is ludicrous IMO! :)

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An average Muslim **does not **even believe that Mary ever married to anyone, let alone the biblical false character of Joseph.

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so what kind of an example was he setting, exactly? that a man of any age could marry a woman of any age !!! it did not matter whether she is a pre-teen ?

I dont think a 9 year old will have any concept of love other than the person bringing her candy.

why this was done only in Aisha's case. i am sure she was not gasoline selling at a freeway. your logic does not make sense simply because the quoted ages of the other women are never contested. to me this is an excuse to justify the actions of the prophet.

so the prophet married her so she could narrate his ahadiths later on? does not make sense to me.

maybe it was normal in those times. but even if we accept that point, it does not make it right. Pshtuns dont give their daughters anything out of their property but that is so wrong.
and besides everything, he was the prophet, remember!!! he was supposed to change the society. he was not supposed to follow the customs of that time.

beliefs do make people go blind. and looking at this thread i have seen several examples of it.

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I dont think a 9 year old will have any concept of love other than the person bringing her candy.

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that is possible also is possible that a 9 year old is able start her own home.

by 9 i myself could have looked after a wife and lived independently. you need to appreciate theres some settings which develop people much faster.
also since advertising (refering to sex stereotyping, ideal partner stereotyping) is not present in all environments. attraction, affection, love can still flourish in age different marriages

by the way it is upto the man to care. woman makes the bricks a home but the commitment of the man towards the marriage is what differentiates between a genuinely loving marriage and something less genuine

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beliefs do make people go blind. and looking at this thread i have seen several examples of it.
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this idea of ideal partnership you have only serves the unmarried relationships scenario, dating and the modern wealthy parent whose children grow up very slowly.

things can be different 9 year old can be serious or be childish. a 9 year can have a cause in life or be wondering with the winds.

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your out of context reply makes it hard for you to understand the reasons. It was not about narrating ahadiths merely. Look what I said:

"Prophet (SAW) had wives of all ages and Islamic rulings especially specificly related to women of different ages come from the narrations of these mothers of the Ummah."

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I dont take Mohammed as our last prophet because he married Aisha or not. I take him because he brought to us the message of Allah. I dont need to justify anything to anyone. Your eeman is with you and mine is with mine