hmm kk hmm lets say you run into someone who is muslim and doesn’t think some of the things prophet mohammad did were right
ex
him marrying aisha when she was 8-9 (don’t know the exact age so..)
him having more than 1 wife at a time(marrying 11 times)
there were few others ones which i forgot
him/her saying this a big sin? if so, why?
don’t just say yes, but give a reason(s) too. Let’s you had a conversation in which this came up, how would you response?
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That was a custom.
You need to study more about culture which are pretty alien to us now but centuries ago they were firmly in place.
People used to marry-off their sons and daughters very early due to very low rate of life expectacny. Nowadays which is 70s~80s in many countries. In those day people used to die / killed due to illness , wars, conflicts. It is a fact. If you read history you will get to know more. So general expectancy of life was hardly 40 years. Even many people (men and women) could not cross 20s and 30s.
People in those days used to die abruptly and very commonly. Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) Father died in very young age same with his mother. They both were healthy and well off and belonged to very respected family. Why did they die so early ?
If you know something about history then explore answer for this question and write it here.
So when the death was so common people in those days used to support widows and kids of people who die suddenly. They used to marry widows. Prophet (pbuh) married mostly widows in order to support them. It was a custom too.
Now people dont do that generally . Because
1.) Life Expectancy, health care facilities has increased manifolds
2.) It is not part of todays culture.
You should understand various cultures have deep reasons. You need to understand them. My Grand mother got married when she was 13 years old. Her first child died shortly after birth, Thank God she remained alive :
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hmm kk hmm lets say you run into someone who is muslim and doesn't think some of the things prophet mohammad did were right
did this person say that he or she is a Muslim or are you assuming that given his or her background?..............if his view is that Prophet SAWW "did not do things that were right" then what makes him believe in Allah SWT, angels, or Quran since everything we know about our faith is taught to us by the Prophet SAWW.......and if he made "mistakes" then how do we believe everything he told us about the world of the unseen?.......how do we know where he made mistakes and where he did not?
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heres an opportunity to educate this person to say that our Prohpet Hazrat Muhammad SAW was not an ordinary man. He was proclaimed with a stature of the most prestigious level. everything he did was due to reason that was of benefit.
He had more than one wife, agreed. but the way he provided time for each wife was fair. Hazrat Aisha Sidiqa RA once had a female friend say to her that you should spend mroe time with your husband. Subhanallah her response was that she was not the first or the second wife. the amount of time he provides me is the same as he provides to other wives and that she is no position to question it. the reason why Prophet PBUH declared of marriages limited to 4 was because he knew that for a MAN (as ime evolved and would be engrossed in worldly action such as jobs etc) would not have the time to provide equal amoutns of time with each wife along with providing for them.
as for marrying someone of a young age, Code_Red is absaloutly right. the life expectancy was ridiculously short due to the illnesses at the time. TB which is minor in this day and age was like cancer and incredibly contagious. so it was normal for people to get married at an extremly young age.
i would also tell this person who questioned you to lookinto it in more detail before making statements without knowing.
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A Muslim should realize that Prophet s.a.w is smartest and most knowledgeable person ever. We might be unable to understand certain things that Prophet s.a.w did because we lack a lot of Knowledge.
وَإِذْ قَالَ مُوسَىٰ لِفَتَاهُ لَا أَبْرَحُ حَتَّىٰ أَبْلُغَ مَجْمَعَ الْبَحْرَيْنِ أَوْ أَمْضِيَ حُقُبًا
[Shakir 18:60] And when Musa said to his servant: I will not cease until I reach the junction of the two rivers or I will go on for years.
فَلَمَّا بَلَغَا مَجْمَعَ بَيْنِهِمَا نَسِيَا حُوتَهُمَا فَاتَّخَذَ سَبِيلَهُ فِي الْبَحْرِ سَرَبًا
[Shakir 18:61] So when they had reached the junction of the two (rivers) they forgot their fish, and it took its way into the sea, going away.
فَلَمَّا جَاوَزَا قَالَ لِفَتَاهُ آتِنَا غَدَاءَنَا لَقَدْ لَقِينَا مِنْ سَفَرِنَا هَٰذَا نَصَبًا
[Shakir 18:62] But when they had gone farther, he said to his servant: Bring to us our morning meal, certainly we have met with fatigue from this our journey.
قَالَ أَرَأَيْتَ إِذْ أَوَيْنَا إِلَى الصَّخْرَةِ فَإِنِّي نَسِيتُ الْحُوتَ وَمَا أَنْسَانِيهُ إِلَّا الشَّيْطَانُ أَنْ أَذْكُرَهُ ۚ وَاتَّخَذَ سَبِيلَهُ فِي الْبَحْرِ عَجَبًا
[Shakir 18:63] He said: Did you see when we took refuge on the rock then I forgot the fish, and nothing made me forget to speak of it but the Shaitan, and it took its way into the river; what a wonder!
قَالَ ذَٰلِكَ مَا كُنَّا نَبْغِ ۚ فَارْتَدَّا عَلَىٰ آثَارِهِمَا قَصَصًا
[Shakir 18:64] He said: This is what we sought for; so they returned retracing their footsteps.
فَوَجَدَا عَبْدًا مِنْ عِبَادِنَا آتَيْنَاهُ رَحْمَةً مِنْ عِنْدِنَا وَعَلَّمْنَاهُ مِنْ لَدُنَّا عِلْمًا
[Shakir 18:65] Then they found one from among Our servants whom We had granted mercy from Us and whom We had taught knowledge from Ourselves.
قَالَ لَهُ مُوسَىٰ هَلْ أَتَّبِعُكَ عَلَىٰ أَنْ تُعَلِّمَنِ مِمَّا عُلِّمْتَ رُشْدًا
[Shakir 18:66] Musa said to him: Shall I follow you on condition that you should teach me right knowledge of what you have been taught?
قَالَ إِنَّكَ لَنْ تَسْتَطِيعَ مَعِيَ صَبْرًا
[Shakir 18:67] He said: Surely you cannot have patience with me
وَكَيْفَ تَصْبِرُ عَلَىٰ مَا لَمْ تُحِطْ بِهِ خُبْرًا
[Shakir 18:68] And how can you have patience in that of which you have not got a comprehensive knowledge?
قَالَ سَتَجِدُنِي إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ صَابِرًا وَلَا أَعْصِي لَكَ أَمْرًا
[Shakir 18:69] He said: If Allah pleases, you will find me patient and I shall not disobey you in any matter.
قَالَ فَإِنِ اتَّبَعْتَنِي فَلَا تَسْأَلْنِي عَنْ شَيْءٍ حَتَّىٰ أُحْدِثَ لَكَ مِنْهُ ذِكْرًا
[Shakir 18:70] He said: If you would follow me, then do not question me about any thing until I myself speak to you about it
فَانْطَلَقَا حَتَّىٰ إِذَا رَكِبَا فِي السَّفِينَةِ خَرَقَهَا ۖ قَالَ أَخَرَقْتَهَا لِتُغْرِقَ أَهْلَهَا لَقَدْ جِئْتَ شَيْئًا إِمْرًا
[Shakir 18:71] So they went (their way) until when they embarked in the boat he made a hole in it. (Musa) said: Have you made a hole in it to drown its inmates? Certainly you have done a grievous thing.
قَالَ أَلَمْ أَقُلْ إِنَّكَ لَنْ تَسْتَطِيعَ مَعِيَ صَبْرًا
[Shakir 18:72] He said: Did I not say that you will not be able to have patience with me?
قَالَ لَا تُؤَاخِذْنِي بِمَا نَسِيتُ وَلَا تُرْهِقْنِي مِنْ أَمْرِي عُسْرًا
[Shakir 18:73] He said: Blame me not for what I forgot, and do not constrain me to a difficult thing in my affair.
فَانْطَلَقَا حَتَّىٰ إِذَا لَقِيَا غُلَامًا فَقَتَلَهُ قَالَ أَقَتَلْتَ نَفْسًا زَكِيَّةً بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ لَقَدْ جِئْتَ شَيْئًا نُكْرًا
[Shakir 18:74] So they went on until, when they met a boy, he slew him. (Musa) said: Have you slain an innocent person otherwise than for manslaughter? Certainly you have done an evil thing.
قَالَ أَلَمْ أَقُلْ لَكَ إِنَّكَ لَنْ تَسْتَطِيعَ مَعِيَ صَبْرًا
[Shakir 18:75] He said: Did I not say to you that you will not be able to have patience with me?
قَالَ إِنْ سَأَلْتُكَ عَنْ شَيْءٍ بَعْدَهَا فَلَا تُصَاحِبْنِي ۖ قَدْ بَلَغْتَ مِنْ لَدُنِّي عُذْرًا
[Shakir 18:76] He said: If I ask you about anything after this, keep me not in your company; indeed you shall have (then) found an excuse in my case.
فَانْطَلَقَا حَتَّىٰ إِذَا أَتَيَا أَهْلَ قَرْيَةٍ اسْتَطْعَمَا أَهْلَهَا فَأَبَوْا أَنْ يُضَيِّفُوهُمَا فَوَجَدَا فِيهَا جِدَارًا يُرِيدُ أَنْ يَنْقَضَّ فَأَقَامَهُ ۖ قَالَ لَوْ شِئْتَ لَاتَّخَذْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَجْرًا
[Shakir 18:77] So they went on until when they came to the people of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused to entertain them as guests. Then they found in it a wall which was on the point of falling, so he put it into a right state. (Musa) said: If you had pleased, you might certainly have taken a recompense for it.
قَالَ هَٰذَا فِرَاقُ بَيْنِي وَبَيْنِكَ ۚ سَأُنَبِّئُكَ بِتَأْوِيلِ مَا لَمْ تَسْتَطِعْ عَلَيْهِ صَبْرًا
[Shakir 18:78] He said: This shall be separation between me and you; now I will inform you of the significance of that with which you could not have patience.
أَمَّا السَّفِينَةُ فَكَانَتْ لِمَسَاكِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ فِي الْبَحْرِ فَأَرَدْتُ أَنْ أَعِيبَهَا وَكَانَ وَرَاءَهُمْ مَلِكٌ يَأْخُذُ كُلَّ سَفِينَةٍ غَصْبًا {79}
[Shakir 18:79] As for the boat, it belonged to (some) poor men who worked on the river and I wished that I should damage it, and there was behind them a king who seized every boat by force.
وَأَمَّا الْغُلَامُ فَكَانَ أَبَوَاهُ مُؤْمِنَيْنِ فَخَشِينَا أَنْ يُرْهِقَهُمَا طُغْيَانًا وَكُفْرًا
[Shakir 18:80] And as for the boy, his parents were believers and we feared lest he should make disobedience and ingratitude to come upon them:
فَأَرَدْنَا أَنْ يُبْدِلَهُمَا رَبُّهُمَا خَيْرًا مِنْهُ زَكَاةً وَأَقْرَبَ رُحْمًا
[Shakir 18:81] So we desired that their Lord might give them in his place one better than him in purity and nearer to having compassion.
وَأَمَّا الْجِدَارُ فَكَانَ لِغُلَامَيْنِ يَتِيمَيْنِ فِي الْمَدِينَةِ وَكَانَ تَحْتَهُ كَنْزٌ لَهُمَا وَكَانَ أَبُوهُمَا صَالِحًا فَأَرَادَ رَبُّكَ أَنْ يَبْلُغَا أَشُدَّهُمَا وَيَسْتَخْرِجَا كَنْزَهُمَا رَحْمَةً مِنْ رَبِّكَ ۚ وَمَا فَعَلْتُهُ عَنْ أَمْرِي ۚ ذَٰلِكَ تَأْوِيلُ مَا لَمْ تَسْطِعْ عَلَيْهِ صَبْرًا
[Shakir 18:82] And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and there was beneath it a treasure belonging to them, and their father was a righteous man; so your Lord desired that they should attain their maturity and take out their treasure, a mercy from your Lord, and I did not do it of my own accord. This is the significance of that with which you could not have patience.
This is an Example where Hazrat Musa a.s, a Prophet of ALLAH was unable to understand why hazrat Khidar a.s did certain things because he didnt have enough Knowledge. If lack of Knowledge didnt let Prophet like Hazrat Musa understand what Hazrat Khidar a.s did, then compare knowledge of ur frnd to knowledge of Prophet s.a.w. Things that Prophet s.a.w did might look wrong to us because of our jahalat.
Wasalam
Aqeel
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^ Salaams! I couldn’t agree more. MA extremely insightful and appropriate response.
Human reasoning has its limits…but if the person genuinely wants to understand the basis of such actions, they are welcome to read the Sirah of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) such as:
http://www.simplyislam.com/iteminfo.asp?item=52412#
The whole commotion over the so-called child marriage of Hazrat Aisha (PBUH) should not only be considered in the light of the prevailing customs, traditions, socio-political structure and scientific facts such as low life expectancy, but also with the understanding that as Muslims it is part of our belief that anything the Prophet PBUH said, did, or approved of were things permitted and established by God on earth via his messenger. Therefore even socially unacceptable acts at that time, such as marrying the divorcee of an adopted child (Hazrat Zaid’s ex-wife, Hazrat Zainab bint Jahsh), were established by the Prophet PBUH due to God’s directives.
Secondly, the wives of the Prophet (PBUH) were those women who had gone through severe hardships, widowed, divorced, or married to set certain examples (as quoted above). The Prophet set an example for men to marry women on the basis of Islam rather than the Jahilliya priorities of wealth, status, virginity, etc, and to gain Allah’s favor as well as improve the society by helping out those in need through this divine union. This was not only an example for men, but for women as well, to learn from the example of the Mothers of the Believers and instill values such as patience, altruism and generosity in domestic life.
The Western approach is usually to paint the marital life of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in vivid controversy, making it seem as though he maintained some sort of harem (naozubillah) which is most certainly not the case as I doubt any guy would marry 50-yr old destitute widows (such as Hazrat Sawdah) for personal motives.
Hazrat Aisha was nine when she was betrothed to the Prophet (PBUH) but did the union was not consummated till another two years, which makes her eleven at the time of actual marriage. At a time when commanders of the Muslim army could range from 13-18yrs of age, I wonder why having a wife a few years younger is an issue in the first place. Also, Muslims are supposed to marry as soon as possible after puberty anyway, no matter what age that entails.
I would also like to point out that if you see the trends of society today, the West itself is returning to the rituals of early marriages or teenage betrothals albeit due to the extremes of sexual depravity in most cases. For reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
Point is, when a a girl has illegal sexual intercourse or gives birth or marries within the pre-teen or teenage years in the West, it’s called freedom of choice or exemplary love. But if an early marriage is arranged in the East to prevent social ills, it’s called forced child marriage or child abuse and depicted as the pinnacle of human of women’s rights violations =/
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I totally agree with Bradiboi, Aqeel 123 and Nene23.
We are mere mortals who cannot begin to comprehend the limits of our prophets knowledge.
Rest Allah SWT knows best.
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