Prophecies made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, that never came true

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Mirza Sahib said that Mohammad(pbuh) had 3000 + miracles, but he will have over 3 million miracles, but he had none.
Than he claimed to have prophecies! Which never came true! Here are some better known prophecies of the person who called himself a Prophet, Mehdi, and the Promised Messiah. According to Mirza Ghulam himself, even if only one prophecy has not come to pass, we should view him a liar and an impostor. Let’s count his most famous prophecies which did not come to pass==>Read all of the post.

Prophecies and Mubahala Concerning Mr. Abdullah Khan Atham
Mirza Ghulam Qadiani was badly humiliated by Mr. A.K. Atham, a Christian, in a debate. Mirza Ghulam’s repeated prophecies regarding a miserable death for Mr. Atham did not come to pass.
Prophecy concerning Multiple Marriages and many Children
“Indeed God has given me the good news that I shall have numerous children from blessed women, whom I shall marry after this revelation.”

(Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 5, P. 58)

“In February 1886, I made a declaration after receiving revelation from God that He gave me good news of marriages after this declaration and soon I shall marry women of good omen and virtue and to me will be born children from them.”

(Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 1, P. 89)

Mirza Ghulam made this statement when he was 46 years old. The fact is that he did not marry anyone after this prophecy.

Prophecies Regarding Marriage to Mohammadi Begum
Mirza Ghulam’s repeated assertions that his marriage to Mohammadi Begum was ordained by God never came to pass. Additionally, none of the individuals he had threatened with death from God died as he had predicted.

Prophecies Regarding the birth of Sons to his wife
Mirza Ghulam made multiple prophecies regarding birth of sons to his wife. They all failed.
Prophecy about Marriage to a Virgin and a Widow
Mirza Ghulam has written:

“It is God’s intention that He will bring two ladies in my wedlock. One will be virgin and the other widow. Therefore, this inspiration that is related to Bikr (virgin), it has been fulfilled and, presently by the grace of God, I have four sons from this wife. I am still waiting for the fulfillment of the inspiration regarding widow.”

(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 15, P. 201)

Mirza Ghulam never married a widow.
Prophecies Regarding “A Spark of Light of Allah”
Mirza Ghulam’s claim that a new born boy would grow up to become the savior of the humanity failed, when the young boy died of an illness.

Prophecies Concerning the Plague and Qadian
Mirza Ghulam feared Cholera very much and declared it to be one of his signs. He predicted that the plague that became rampant in Punjab will not enter Qadian, the dwelling place of God’s prophet (himself)! However, not only did the plague spread to Qadian, it also took the life of several people in Mirza Ghulam’s own house.

Prophecies Concerning Birth of a Son to a Follower
Mirza Ghulam’s prophecies concerning the birth of a son to one of his followers, Manzoor Muhammad, did not materialize.

Prophecies and Mubahala Concerning Dr. Abdul Hakim
Mirza Ghulam Qadiani engaged in a discussion with a Muslim Doctor by the name of Abdul Hakim. During this discussion, the Doctor called Mirza a Liar and challenged him to a debate. Instead of accepting the debate, Mirza Ghulam prophecised a miserable death for Dr. Hakim. These predictions also failed and proved to be the inventions of a lost soul and a pretender.

Prophecy Concerning Long Life
Mirza Ghulam declared to have received wahi (revelation) concerning his lifespan:
“Enemies wish for my death and prophecise about it. God has, however, given me the good news that I shall live for eighty (80) years or more.”

(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 239; Mawahib-ur-Rahman, P. 21)

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani died when he was sixty eight (68) years old.
Prophecy Concerning his Death in a Holy City
Mirza Ghulam had stated:

“I will die either in Mekkah or Medina.”

(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 2, P. 105; Tadhkira, P. 591)

Mirza Ghulam did not ever see Mekkah or Medina. He died in the city of Lahor, Pakistan; his body was moved and burried in Qadian.
Dozens and dozens of prophecies like those that Mirza Ghulam had falsely attributed to Allah(SWT).
Allah said this to people who falsely attribute things to him:

Who doth more wrong than those who invent a lie against Allah? They will be turned back to the presence of their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord! Behold! the Curse of Allah is on those who do wrong!- Those who would hinder (men) from the path of Allah and would seek in it something crooked: these were they who denied the Hereafter!
(The Holy Quran, Hud, 11:18-19)

Even according to the standards set by the pretender Mirza, we should have no doubt that he was an impostor and a false claimant to prophethood. Allah(SWT), time and time again, has proved Mirza Ghulam’s falsehood to those who seek guidance.

Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls. (The Holy Quran, Al-Araf, 7:177)

NYA tell me what makes Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a Prophet, Messiah and Mehdi?

It is sad to see people following something, that is abviously not real and not true.

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Why are you asking me? What exactly do you want to compare for valid prophethoods? The sex drive or how many girls each prophet slept with? Or who got more chicks? OK. You win hands down in that category. I have no problem with whoever you want to believe in or don’t. If you think Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not a true prophet of your God, I will say Fine, because I don’t believe in God and other shity stuff. Stop wasting your time.

Now that we are at it, could you tell us the # of girls each biblical prophet scored with? Starting with the first, and ending with the last. Give me all the juicy details.

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dr. loveless very informative post, keep it up and worry about the stupid people, the little people.

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dear ny,
all the stuff abt mirza is true. the evidence against mirza is overwhelming. No prophet commited adultery................you got to draw the line somehwere.

btw has anyone heard the story of muhammadi begum?

she was a 15 year old girl that mirza put pressure on her to marry him. Mirza made a prediction that if she refused to marry him she would die within five years. In fact she is still alive today and is 90 yrs old living in pakistan.

eye witness accounts are valuable evidence of false prophecies.

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Excellent job Dr Loveless in explaining in detail the fallacies of this heretic Mirza. You missed out the details of how and in what position this kaffir died...

Its a pity that so called baptised Qadiani's like NYA can pour venom at Islam (and stand up for Jews) but not defend their own birthright?

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Sofi, are you suggesting that proposing to marry a 15 year old girl is not allowed in Islam? That’s kinda news to me. If you want some adulterous accounts of biblical prophets, I will be happy to direct you to some readings.

Hey Lowlifeless, what’s your firka man? So I can bang the right note.

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Sufi Sahib

Do your math first, If that girl is still alive and she is 90 years old than she was born in 1910. She probably turned 15 in 1925, right or wrong.....

Now go back and check your history.....

If Muhammadi Begum is still alive, please give me her address or something or do you want to know her sons and grand sons names. They are devoted Ahmadis. For some reason, these Mualivis knows more about Muhammadi begum than her own sons.

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Dr LoveLess aka retired Jawaan, I am sorry to say, I don’t have words to put my critique to your post. The reason being I haven’t read those quotes by myself.

May be they are true, may be they are not, but I have to look into it 'MYSELF' before I cough up anything.

Pardon me for now.

Master jee, actually NY Ahmadi’s reply to your comment catches my eye to drop by.

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Ahmadi wrote;

Sofi, are you suggesting that proposing to marry a 15 year old girl is not allowed in Islam? That’s kinda news to me. If you want some adulterous accounts of biblical prophets, I will be happy to direct you to some readings.

Hey Lowlifeless, what’s your firka man? So I can bang the right note.

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exactly, that’s what I mean to say too. Have you read (at least) seerat-e-nabwi(sa)? I doubt.

It was year 10 Nabwi when Ayesha(ra) age 7 was bound with martial ties to Holy Prophet(sa). After five years of that Nikkah, in 2nd year of Hijra, Hadhrat Abu Bakar Siddiq(ra) performed Her Rukhsatana. A cash Meher at that time was presented by Holy Prophet(sa) and in shawwal 2nd hijra, she at the age of 12 entered Harm-e-Nabwi(sa). [Ref: ibne hasham, ibne ishaq]

Please feel free if you have any question.

NYAhmadi, brother heard that you have been to Lahore (to see the queen eh!).

How was your trip, your parents, your mohalla, your puranay doost wagaira wagaira. Hope you enjoyed all that, and refreshed your past touch. I was browsing your stories last night on the other forum, man you are very competent at pen.

Malik yaar good to see you again. By the way Umra Mubarak ho. How was your trip though, if you have time please share your experience.

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Sofi, are you suggesting that proposing to marry a 15 year old girl is not allowed in Islam?<<

It is when you start predicitng her death if she doesn't marry you.

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Yeah man, you “first” post, and what you have to say make a lot of sense. Talk to me when you have 20 posts under your name. This garbage that you read here is written by insecure idiots whose only way to feel proud about their own pathetic beliefs is to ridicule other’s. Since you have made an entrance, could you tell me what Firka you belong to? So I can give you some comparative details.

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dear johny boy,

the guys who tracked down muhammadi begum used history to track her down. I went to a khatme nabuwwat conference and the group of guys who visited muhammadi begum gave her addresss and everything. I will try and get the address of muhammadi begum if u wan to visit her but its going to be difficult cos those guys are long gone.

mirza was forcing this lady to marry her but she said to him basically muhammad is the last messenger and not you impostor mirza.

its the prediction mirza made that showed him up. Muhammadi begum outlived mirza by a lot of years.

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So Sufi are you saying that outliving someone makes one a better Muslim? Are you on speed or something? How about saying to someone, “give me your six year old, and Khalafit is yours”. So before reading gutter oriented material that is falsified beyond belief (a job of your uneducated translators), go and talk to an Ahmadi and hear in person. The sites where your buddy Lovebird brings this crap from is run by insecure jerks. No matter what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did or did not do, these low-lifes will never take his words, so looking for malicious details really servers no purpose. In their eyes, he could do no right. Loveless has found a buddy in you. Congratulations.

Sufi, may I ask what Firka you belong to?

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NYA those translation were made by the "chamcheys"(close followers of Mirza) of Ahmad Mirza. NOT by muslims or people who have done the research. Are you calling the works and the writtings of your Mirza "gutter oriented material"?? Thats a shame.

On one hand you say you dont believe in God and other shity stuff, and now here you are taking sides like you really believe that Mirza was a prophet! Well why don't you prove to us that he was a prophet?

You don't wana believe what your mirza wrote in his own books, thats fine. But don't call other people stupid just because they are telling the word that Mirza was a fake prophet, that he was really a imposter and a joke.

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dear ny

           no need to get personal. Im not on speed but just telling you of evidence of fasle prophecies of mirza. The   thread is titled "prophecies made by mirza ahmad that never came true" . The prophecies mirza made are all false, are you blind ny. Cant you look at history....why not!?

the truth hurts doesnt it!

abt firkas then you can open your own thread. The majority of muslims dont belong to any firka and regard themself as muslim.

would you like me to open a thread abt the firkas in qadiani religion? their is the lahori faction of qadianis and others.

sorry if i have said anything to offend you.

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The topic here is "Prophecies made by Mirza ghulam Ahmad, that never came true." The fact that he married a 15 year old girl is not an issue here, since it is approved by religion. The issue is " Prophecies made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, that never came true." By the way, NYAhmadi, I would like to know where I can find details of "adulterous accounts of biblical prophets"? This is the first time I've heard something ridiculous like this.

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Dear Shakir75

For starters, I recommend to you to pick up Old Testament, and read about Daud’s adulterous affairs. For more advanced stuff, look up about how Esau (brother of Ishaq) had sexual relations with Bilhah and Zilphah (Rachel’s maids). Rachel (as well as Leah) married Yakoob, had 12 sons who started 12 tribes of Israel. The stuff later gets even more intriguing. For not playing with the “fragile” sentiments of other Gupoos, I will leave the details out. But you should definitely check out some books written on the 12 Tribes of Israel. There is a lot of stuff that discusses infallibility of prophets.

Even in Quran, (I don’t know the exact Surah) God addresses to his prophet: “your past and future sins are forgiven”. What do you suppose that “past” sins could be?

Prophets, like all of us are (were) human beings and are not shielded against sins. If you read more detailed Biblical accounts, one of the things that strikes the reader is that a good number of sinners later on in their lives became prophets, after repenting.

Since Sufi-Sahib’s knowledge is limited to Paki-Rooti (ask him what "Paki Rooti" is), he will never understood anything written by other than Mowlana Sahibeen, and Loveless can’t even write a single legible sentence, so I don’t even expect him to know what the crapsum he is talking about.

Finally, I can assure you that the above cut and paste job is a very lousy effort by those who see Ahmadis as an eyesore. Would any sensible reader really take these false translations seriously? The problem is that they have nothing to prove about their own religion (whatever the phunk that is) so they pick up nonsense and try to demonize others.

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NYA are you denying the writing of your "so called" prophet???

Those are translation of Mirza's books by ahmadies, and not by some muslim. READ YOUR OWN BOOKS first, you been told lies and you dont even know, how stupid can you get huh?

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No way as stupid as you Loveie, I am off for today, will read you garbage tomorrow. Meanwhile, read lots of Quran, and get some sleep.

How the hell do you first tell everyone how great Abdul-Wahab (whatever his title is) was, and now you are telling everyone that there is no need for intermediaries? Do you have some sense? Or is it just hereditary?

Do you even know what I was talking about? Don't be offended, but you are the dumbest person I have ever read. Really.

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ok you can call me what ever makes you feel good about your self.

I know you will call me dumb, stupid, idiot, and other your like words, that is normal for people like you who dont have any point and jump on to calling others bad words, its ok thats all you can do. YOU GOT NO POINT!!!
You babble he was a prophet, but you cant prove it. HOW STUPID THAT IS!!! Liars always believe in liars, you are believe the biggest liar in the world that ever was, your mirza sahib.

Answer this:

Prove to me that your “so-called” prophet mirza was really a prophet, messiah, mehdi and other lies that he told? PROVE IT TO US!!! I KNOW YOU CANT!!! LOL

Come on, you believe in him, prove to me that he was!!!
WE have proven that he is NOT!!!

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