"But she pointed to him. They said: How should we speak to one who was a child in the cradle? "
"He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; "
This is the verse revealed about Prophets Essa when the people asked how she gave birth to a child when she was not married, and this is how Propeht Essa responded from the cradle when he was only a few hours old.
And in soura-e-al-qasas verse 12
"And We had before forbidden foster-mothers for him, so she said: Shall I show you a household who will rear him for you and take care of him? "
This is about how Propeht Mosa at 3 days old, had refused to be breast fed by anyone else other than his own biological mother, as God had forbidden foster morthers for him.
Now my question is how is it that Essa can testify for his mothers character when he is only a few hours old and declare himself prophet, and announce that he had been given the revelation (book) and Mosa when only few days old knew what was forbidden to him by God, but the last prophet was not aware of his propehthood until th eage of 40 and was illiterate, where as the other lesser propehts (for lack of a better word) knew while they were not even old enough to talk.
If somone has a horrible disease if someone lives inside the belly of a fish, doesn’t affect their charachter but the level of ilm (knowledge) determines ones status.
A propeht being stricken with a horrible disease, a prophet living inside of a fish doesn’t make them better person than any other prophet, but having more knowledge does.
Can you tell me if based on my question, if you compare Rasool Allah and Propeht Essa both at a few hours old, who do you think has more knowledge at that age, who would u consider to be the superior of the two???
Curious One, Prophethood does not have to follow a set pattern. While many Prophets shared similarities, they sure wernt carbon copies of each other.
Ultimately Allah knows best. One could theorize that one of the reasons why the Prophet Mohammad Sallallah Alaih Wasalam attained his Prophethood so late in life was so that his character could be established with the people around him. Even those who opposed his message knew him to be a wise, honest and fair man.
Ultimately Allah knows best. One could theorize that one of the reasons why the Prophet Mohammad Sallallah Alaih Wasalam attained his Prophethood so late in life was so that his character could be established with the people around him. Even those who opposed his message knew him to be a wise, honest and fair man.
Allahoalam.
The question is not about why the pattern was different, rather why one who had the knowledge of book (propeht Essa) at a few hours, one who was aware of the what was forbidden by allah (prophet Mosa) are not superior to the Last propeht who was illiterate, and the book was nto revealed to him till the age of 40.
Who would u consider superior Rasooal Allah at age 15 who was illiterate, was not even a prophet and needed a jew to tell him what had happend after the first revelation (wahi) or would you consider superior a propeht who had the book revelaed tohim even before he was born, (that must have been the case with essa, unless it was revealed to a baby who was only a few minutes old) who was aware of hallal and haram of his shariat while he was still a new born.
I don't want anyone to accuse me of disrespecting Rasool allah I do strongly beleive that he was supperior to everybody, but have serious doubts about the claim that he was illiterate, or he was not aware of his prophethood till the age of 40.
By the way, according to the Sunni fiqh, the Holy Prophet :saw: was born a Prophet but was given the message of Islam later on…In fact, we believe that he was destined to be a Prophet from the time even before Adam :as: descended to earth…
He had no knowledge of the book at the time…All he did was attest to the innocence of his mother…
All Prophets (pbut) born know from Fitrat what is right and what is wrong…They are all Maasoom (innocent) because Allah :swt: guides their actions and such was the case with the Holy Prophet :saw:…
"I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; "
meaning he already was given the book, the ayat doesnt say that he will be given a book later on.
What Mosa did was not part of fitrat, he was born on fitrat but he went against fitrat by refusing milk from anyone else, except his own biological mother.
Revelation meaning one revelation…i.e. To speak what he did in the crib was a revelation in itself…
He refused because he was guided by Allah :swt:…It was a guidance he survived the culling of children by the Egyptians, it was a guidance he was discovered by Aasiya and it was a guidance that he refuse the milk of other women besides his own mother…
It’s all about guidance…Call it miracle, guidance whatever…Fact was, he was guided…
Moosa (as) was forbidden to drink the milk of any nurse when he was a baby, not by wahee....
he was a regular baby who had no understanding, just that Allah, by His Will had not allowed him to feed from the breast of any woman other than his own mother....
Moosa (as) got prophethood when he was returning from Madayen, and when he reached the valley of Tuwa....
Isa (as) was a prophet at childhood....
as was Yahya (as)....
Yusuf (as) in his dream was told that he will be made a prophet when he was a child....
Muhammad (saw) was made prophet when he was 40 years of age....
but what does the age at which one gets prophethood have to do with his rank????
its just like a person who joins army at the age of 18 and retires as a captain....
and another joins at the age of 30 and in some years reaches the rank of a general....
the age at which they joined does not determine their rank....
Other translations of quran refer to it as book, but even if we consider it to be one revelation still is better than no revelation at all, and hence one propeht has one revelation where as the other has no revelation till he turned 40.
Moses was quided while in the crib, where as our last prophet was not guided till the age of 40, and hence must have committed sins.
Again the issue is if one is guided at such an early age, and the other had one revelation while still in the crib, and the last prophet was illiterate (no revelation, wasn't even aware of what had happend to him when he reeived the first revelation in ghar-e-hira and a jew had to tell him that he had been appointed a prophet, who would you consider superior in this case??
but what does the age at which one gets prophethood have to do with his rank????
its just like a person who joins army at the age of 18 and retires as a captain....
and another joins at the age of 30 and in some years reaches the rank of a general....
the age at which they joined does not determine their rank....
That 18 year old who retired as captian is superior to the 30 yr old untill he turns 30 and joins the army.
Not the age but rather the knowledge (ilm) determines the rank, one had no ilm, was illiterate, where as the other had the ilm of the book, or according to Lajawab ilm of one revelation, which is still better than no ilm at all.
Moses was quided while in the crib, where as our last prophet was not guided till the age of 40, and hence must have committed sins.
Again the issue is if one is guided at such an early age, and the other had one revelation while still in the crib, and the last prophet was illiterate (no revelation, wasn't even aware of what had happend to him when he reeived the first revelation in ghar-e-hira and a jew had to tell him that he had been appointed a prophet, who would you consider superior in this case??
I still consider Rasulullah (S.A.W.) superior to all other prophets.
^ what he is saying is similar to what some ppl say, Isa (as) is mentioned so many times in the Quran while Muhammad (saw) is mentioned only a few times, so who is superior????
Actually Curious One is a guy who likes logic even in religion…But he obviously doesn’t know that self explained theories and logic play little role in determining the outcome of something which is Allah :swt:'s decree…
So I say, let their rank be determined by height…I think the tallest was Hz. Adam :as:, also he lived in Paradise, he heard the voice of Allah :swt: first, woman was created from his rib, he is the father of each and everyone of us, he was the one to whom the first knowledge was revealed…
I say Adam :as: should be ranked as the best Prophet of all…