Re: Professor vs. student: Discussion on God
Rationality = based on facts or reason and not on emotions or feelings
Merriam-Webster’s Learner’s Dictionary
Everything you have mentioned in your post in favor of faith.. are all emotional arguments with presuppositions. In strictly philosophical-rational terms, this type of reasoning can not be termed as logical and rational. My whole argument is faith decisions are based on emotional orientations of an individual where feelings are the deciding factor instead of facts and reason. As far as an individual accepts these facts about faith, there is nothing dishonest about it. When you start equating faith with facts and reasoning you are either confused or dishonest.
It’s good to see your honest approach to faith. There are some posters who are insisting that their faith related decisions are based on logic and rationality. All I want to see is how these posters will prove logically that their faith decisions are rational. We the forum readers are waiting patiently for one particular poster who claims to know certain clergymen who have shown him rationally and logically that their interpretation of faith is rational-logical.
Regarding Zakir Naik.. all his premises are based on presupposition. Furthermore I have seen this guy can not utter a single sentence without lying. He tries to equate science with scriptures changing the meaning of original transcripts and translations to suit his agendas. I watched one of his attempts where he showed a miracle of quran for making correct science predictions. He equated seven heavens mentioned in quran as seven layers of atmosphere but did not bother to explain how quran could say that all the stars are present in the first layer (this is just one example). There are too many deceptions which he has committed over the years to misguide people. For me Madudui-Dr. Israr’s explanation is more logical that quran is not a book of science and to take it for it’s literal interpretation on scientific matters is not correct. It is a spiritual book meant for guidance and should be read for the purpose it was originally sent.
I have written in detail about Zakir Naik’s deceptions and Dr. Israr’s versions in one of the evolution threads. If you are interested please dig that thread and read about it. If you have anything further to add.. then we may discuss on this particular subject. For the time being it is irrelevant for the topic being discussed. The link which you have posted from Zakir Naik can not be termed rational by any standards. He has committed too many deceptions and fallacies as far as justification of science from quran are concerned. ZK has no credibility on the subject after all these deceptions. He is merely a TV showman who would give you wrong references, change translations, change science, omit full texts and selectively use quranic revelations to suit his agendas. Even 99% of muslim scholars don’t trust him. He is probably one of the most dishonest Islamic apologist in the present times.