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Become a teacher...or a professor.. life is a piece of cake, no money but you will get a chance to spend relatively more time with the family.
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I don’t suppose you read what us teachers had to say about our jobs…
generalizations galore!! both your assumptions are actually flawed - there’s decent money and there’s almost no free time.
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Teaching sounds like a good profession but trust me, it isn't.
You have to do a lot of preperation for classes, bring home marking and have to take part in extra activities. How does that give you extra time with family?
There is so much stress involved to get work covered in class and to good results out of the pupils at exam time. The holidays are well deserved and even then you spend a lot of time preparing and doing all sorts.
A 9 to 5 job is better where you dont have to bring work home and forget about work when you are at home until you go to work the next day.
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Professore: My mother has been a professor for the last 30 years. My sister is a professor for the last 5. I know first hand how much money tenured professors make and their schedules. it is easy work..without much financial compensation.
It is like a gov’t job. Nothing wrong with it…but please…you must not be doing something right, if you are spending 100 hrs/week as an adjunct in a community college no less.
And you want to moderate the career forum. 
what is with you folks and aversion to core competency?
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ok .. "Paan ki Dukan".. will be my choice of business .. not just your average paan ki dukan.. buddy this will be hi-tech paan ki dukan.. due to some inconsistencies in Hi-Tech industry I have decided to make Software development (freelance) my side work and Paan ki dukan my main work :)
Deal of the week!: Free 5 hour software consulting provided if the customer buys 5 paans daily.
kaisa.. and with nationwide chains of Paan ki dukan .. and vending machines everywhere.. soon Canada will be just like our own home :D
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Well buddy, firstly, I’m a full-time Assistant Professor at a University - and not a Community College… and where I work, all my colleagues spend a good 100 hours/week or more working… in terms of salary figures, with my Ph.D. near completion, I’m looking at around $110K to start with as an Associate Professor next year - right now I’m at $80K.
So yes! again, the money is decent… but hours are crazy… I don’t get to see my family much at all since I’m also managing p-t studies. However, there’s general misconception about work in academia, and like you said there may even be profs who have it easy… but you gotta look at a lot of variables:
Salary = f (qualifications, industry experience, academic experience, publications credit) ;
Hours = f (professional faculty, type of courses, research projects, administrative responsibilities, govt. grants work).
There’s more to a Professor’s job than just going to class and delivering lectures especially if you’re in a Professional Program like teaching at the School of Business (which is where I am) or say Engineering etc. where industry collaboration projects take up a good chunk of your time. Here’a partial list of what I do on a regular basis.
- Teaching classes
- Grading papers and assignments
- Marking tests and exams
- Counseling students and providing course and career advice
- Attending administrative committee meetings
- Participating in school development projects
- Partaking community service with university associations and external not-for-profit agencies
- Writing research papers & journal articles
- Conducting field studies in collaboration with organizations
- Presenting research findings at conferences
- Publishing in journals, books and online
- Participating in Steering Committee meetings for two or sometimes three projects in the Private Sector
- Taking up a Program Management responsibility for parts of various projects for Govt. agencies etc.
and the list goes on…
and yes, again not all Govt. jobs are easy - common generalization!
I’ve had my share of working in the Public sector (2 years), Private sector (3 years), Consulting (2 years) and Academia (4 years)… every job had its own appeal, its own challenges as well as rewards. All I’m saying that is a bird’s eye-view isn’t adequate enough to make judgements about a job - you need to be in the trenches yourself to realize what its like.
and ohh I hope that also assures your reservations about core competency - cuz IMHO, GS takes elaborate measures to ensure alignment of forums to people where they not only enjoy core but rather distinctive competencies.
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Easy work? One of my professors actually used a calculator to convince us once that the amount of hours they put in and the money they get is almost equivalent to someone earning just above minimum wage! Not all professors have it easy, you know.
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Take up farming
or a kennel
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hugh?..
wats dat?.. ure gonna run an industry from your house??? (Ridiculous idea) Or are you gonna be in the home building industry???
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Call me if you ever have any cows dat need milking… Ill give you a hand 
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80-110K..I stand corrected. 
Decent?
I think you have also left out the following in your 100 hr a week schedule.
- Going to the bathroom
- Walking
- Gupshup
and - secondguessing on career choice.
as far as competency goes for moderating this forum…you are abolutely right. The distinctive competencies are indicative through out GS. Unfortunately, distinctiveness is an anathema to competency when advising kids on career choices. Some may not have the luxury to jump careers and sectors. 
All they need is plain vanilla competency.
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Thankyou everyone for your enthusiasm. I'm still looking at something low key.. $40k would do too.
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lol! depends on what you are teaching - if you are teaching grade school crap fine - ull have a easy life but no real money.
Go try teaching computer science theory or software engineering to 200 students everyday for 7-8 hours - you will hopefully see that it is not ‘a piece of cake’.
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I find that line rather odd. Would you rather have a hard life with lots of money.. or an easy life with less money?
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a business owner works a lot of hours, and if there is somethign better then 8-5 job then, I would really like to know waht that is. My idea of a perfect job would be 12 PM - 3 PM . Oneday, may be that might be possible , probably when one is retired. anyway, I woudl really like to know which line of profession would give you the freedom to spend the most time with your family as well. oh..i got an idea...a business where job timings should be 6 am to 3 PM.
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yes, thats true indeed … n’ the most important bit is that you get to learn all the time … that’s why I wanna be a lecturer as well :halo: .. inshaAllah!
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I have a family member making over a $100,000 salary as a professor. He started as an asst professor with a contract of $85k about 15 years ago. In addition to his salary, there are fees from speaking arrangements and royalties from books.
However, the best way to stay home is to supplement your income by investing in stocks and real estate, in my opinion.
regards,
bob