Profane Language

  1. Does profane language makes the argument more robust, vigorous and dynamic? Or does it take away your interest?

  2. Do you swear on a regular basis or only when emotionally charged? Or not at all!

  3. Is it a necessity in today’s culture? And was it that bad all along?

In Pakistan, the male youth I grew up with used it with ease. In fact the greater (though creative) the use, the more admiration the user had of his group/gang. I even remember the homies at my college tried to sum up their expressions in a booklet, which was to be revised every year.. don’t know what happened to that idea.

My female class fellows on the other hand, used the more western forms of profane language. I guess, among them it was ‘IN’ to swear in English than to use their mother tongue.

It doesn’t make the argument more lively, it only makes it SEEM that way. You know what i mean?

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Mostly when emotionally charged and also when i am with my core group of friends.

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It’s of course no necessity. We sure can get along and live our life w/o using swear words pretty smoothly. I believe it was always THIS bad all along and still is. After all you do not want yerself get caught using this language in front of yer family members.

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Bingo!

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So true.

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Innovative idea. Are they thinking of publishing it as well?

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Again so true. However, i knew some girls who were bilingual as far as swear words are concerned..and believe me it looked so odd hearing typical swear wonds in urdu from them. Looked kinda cute thought in a weird way. Swear words are just not meant to be spoken by girls. I dunno, but i feel this way.


Kambakht Ishq!

It doesn't make the argument robust or whatever. Its done just to dislodge the other person, make him/her lose control of his/her arguments. A very good tactic. And also when people run out of arguments they tend to swear more.

Its such an IN thing with the Pakistani youth, no matter where they live. In my uni in Lahore, guys used all imaginable kind of verbal profanity possible, they would derive new phrases and didn't necessarily use it for arguments, rather in normal everyday conversations with friends. If you dont swear then you are the odd one out and can look forward to having a tough time in such an environment because of your not-swearing trait. And actually its not only the youth, its everywhere in our society.

I dont swear at all as a rule. Its hard not to but fun when everyone is doing so and you are not.


So what you wanted to See good has made you blind
And what you wanted to Be yours has made it Mine
So don't you lock up Something that you
Wanted to see fly
Hands are for shaking No not tying
I sure don't Mind a change But I fell on black Days
How would I know That this could be My fate

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Originally posted by ahmadjee:

  1. Does profane language makes the argument more robust, vigorous and dynamic? Or does it take away your interest?

I don't think profane language makes the conversation more interesting. It just shows how the person can't use other vocabulary but the lack of a better word(s).

  1. Do you swear on a regular basis or only when emotionally charged? Or not at all!

Considering I hear swearing every 2 minutes in the environment I am in; its safe to say I use it minimal and not aggressive swearing, its more like sh*t

  1. Is it a necessity in today’s culture? And was it that bad all along? nah its not neccessary, it just catches attention and its mostly negative

In our culture, I find guys are out of line to use "maa behan ki gali" as casual swearing. Its just a a BIG character flaw in my opinion. If you're gonna belittle someone atleast to it eloquently with style rather than resorting to Farmer joe's dictionary of profanity.

Females, ummm, I don't think they should swear. And if so then as LITTLE as possible. Cuz in my view they lose all their (whats the word here ummm) charisma, innocence, portrayed persona in a blink of an eye. **
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Sometimes the most eloquent of speakers find themselves hitting their head against the wall when talkin to someone who only understands profanity.
There are times I need to assert myself with those kind of people and so…when tact and sarcasim fail…you need to use the words that they are familiar with!!! That’s the only time I ever use profane language.
Profanity puts me off… and when it gets too much it even frustrates me!

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May The Madness Be Upon You!!!

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you need to use the words that they are familiar with
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People do it all the time! Differnt set of words for family, different for co-workers and totally different for friends!

Though I don't buy that justification!

I am surprised none of the female guppies have killed CocoNut by now! :-P And scratch/Khanzada seem to be from my neighbourhood!

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Originally posted by ahmadjee:
** People do it all the time! Differnt set of words for family, different for co-workers and totally different for friends!

Though I don't buy that justification!
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ahmadjee with all due respect...you don't know the people I deal with...so...you can't use high class politeness around them..they only take you seriously if you talk to them using their vocabulary
...altough I try my best to aviod it...sometimes outta anger it comes out..


This Thread Has Been Blessed By "The Madness"...

"May The Madness Be Upon You!!!"

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Originally posted by MadCon:
ahmadjee with all due respect...you don't know the people I deal with...

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With double due respect, your point is well taken!

But as I would never lie just to make people happy, I would never curse just to get my point across either! :-P

p.s: This doesn't mean that I haven't broken the above mention personal law! I am guilty as charged.

When it comes to proper etiquette in speaking I’m very rigid, others may differ, but I think a conversation loses its touch when you assert so many be it slang words or vulgarity. Also being a female I have to say I honor the whole freedom of speech privilege and there should be no restrictions on how a females speaks, but I agree with Coconut I think girls/women sound more charismatic without the usage of profanity be it that they are speaking to another female or a male, it’s a old fashion concept I suppose. But equally with the males it’s hard to keep in with the concept of the conversation when every noun is reinstated with a vulgar replacement.

Consider it biased, but I lose respect for people that cannot convey themselves without profanity.

Often they may have a valid argument, but because of their inability to communicate in a "polite" manner, they forfeit their right to be heard by me.