Re: problem ho gai hai ...
His final decisions regarding Jannati or dozaghi are not stated in Quran. They will be stated and presented on the day of judgement.
Re: problem ho gai hai …
I have very few reference and I am not sure if those will suffice for there may be a number of Munkireen-e-Hadeeth; however these ahaadeeth are based on Quranic ayaat and hence provide the context and background of the revealations of those ayaat:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
When 'Abdullah bin Ubai (the chief of hypocrites) died, his son came to the Prophet and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Please give me your shirt to shroud him in it, offer his funeral prayer and ask for Allah’s forgiveness for him.” So Allah’s Apostle gave his shirt to him and said, “Inform me (When the funeral is ready) so that I may offer the funeral prayer.” So, he informed him and when the Prophet intended to offer the funeral prayer, 'Umar took hold of his hand and said, "Has Allah not forbidden you to offer the funeral prayer for the hypocrites? The Prophet said, “I have been given the choice for Allah says: '(It does not avail) Whether you (O Muhammad) ask forgiveness for them (hypocrites), or do not ask for forgiveness for them. Even though you ask for their forgiveness seventy times, Allah will not forgive them. (at-Taubah 9:80)” So the Prophet offered the funeral prayer and on that the revelation came: “And never (O Muhammad) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (i.e. hypocrites) that dies.” (at-Taubah 9:84) (Sahih Bukhari 2.359)
Narrated Said bin Al-Musaiyab from his father:
When the time of the death of Abu Talib approached, Allah’s Apostle went to him and found Abu Jahl bin Hisham and 'Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya bin Al-Mughira by his side. Allah’s Apostle said to Abu Talib, "O uncle! Say: None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, a sentence with which I shall be a witness (i.e. argue) for you before Allah. Abu Jahl and 'Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya said, “O Abu Talib! Are you going to denounce the religion of Abdul Muttalib?” Allah’s Apostle kept on inviting Abu Talib to say it (i.e. ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’) while they (Abu Jahl and Abdullah) kept on repeating their statement till Abu Talib said as his last statement that he was on the religion of Abdul Muttalib and refused to say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ (Then Allah’s Apostle said, “I will keep on asking Allah’s forgiveness for you unless I am forbidden (by Allah) to do so.” So Allah revealed (the verse) concerning him (i.e. It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe that they should invoke (Allah) for forgiveness for mushrikun even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of the fire (at-Taubah 9:113). (Sahih Bukhari 2.442)
Re: problem ho gai hai ...
Ok, AQ I am not in a position to do some research right now, but rest assured I will get back to you on this one.
Re: problem ho gai hai ...
lol..
Shabash, dhithai mein peechey nahin hatna.
Re: problem ho gai hai …
Quran says on contrary:
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**[5:70] Surely those who believed, and the Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians - whoso believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds, on them shall come no fear, nor shall they grieve. **
Re: problem ho gai hai ...
^^ The Ayaah you quoted is'nt (5.70), its (5.69)
Iam amazed how you find this to be the contarary, when the very first words of this ayah are Surely those who believe.... Quran in this Ayaah, talks about those pious believers, who recieved the message from their respective prophets, held on to their faith and did'nt alter the Word of Allah, and not to those who made three gods out of one God, and gave him sons.
GIn this Ayaah, Allah is talking about pre-Muhammad times. After the Prophethood of Muhammad, no Christain or Sabian or Jew....is allowed to to stick to his religion. If he has heard the revelation, it is required upon him to come to the new religion.
I believe you must have read the Ayaahs following the one you quoted.
We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent them messengers, every time, there came to them a messenger with what they themselves desired not - some (of these) they called impostors, and some they (go so far as to) slay. (5.70)
They thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf; yet Allah (in mercy) turned to them; yet again many of them became blind and deaf. But Allah sees well all that they do. (5:71)
They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. (5.72)
They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. (5.73)
and yea...do'nt take Quranic Ayaah's out of context.
Re: problem ho gai hai …
I agree with you on this.
However, for people who have not yet recieved the true message of Islam and are stick to the original teachings of their religions and do not take any partner to Allah and believe in the day of judgement, this ayat still holds true to them and they will be the one who will have no grief or sorrow.
What I am trying to say here is that WE are not the one who can make the decision, who can go to hell or who can go to heaven. It is Allah who knows the hearts of his people. And if there is one pioused soul that belongs to any religion, Allah can definitly reward him, as he is most merciful. That is why we should refrain from making statements that A cannot go to heaven because this, and B cannot go to hell because of this. That’s all.
As for Ayah 5.70 that I’ve quoted, we count Bismillah as part of surat, however, other muslims don’t, so that should take care of this problem.
Re: problem ho gai hai ...
Who says we are the one to make the decision?
Its Allah's call...and He has stated His decision clearly in the Quran, in many places.