No I’m not talking about abortions while required for bastage babies. Err sorry. I meant preferred usually for an unexpected pregnancy out of wedlock due to whatever the circumstances may be. I’m asking where you stand as an individual when God forbid if ever faced with a situation that an unwanted pregnancy hits you in the face while being married. Why I’m bothered to get a general view point about this is because ….. read along
I know in the west most of the medical centers facilitate women to abort an unwanted pregnancy. However, in Pakistan (or many other nations) it is forbidden. Now what ticks me off that regardless of the ethical issues involved around this phenomena people still go for it. During the time I spent in Pak, a collogue of mine went happily for it and came back beaming with relief after she had it performed. Another example… A newly married couple, the guy being out of job came to the realization his bride was expecting after 3 months of marriage. He could not handle it, neither did his folks. They paraded around that girl forcefully to various hospitals to have an abortion. Also procedure like this cost whatever the amount the doctor states since its done under the covers. Does anyone even gives a damn about the side effects of such things?
Ok enuf with the examples. What really gets me is that an unborn child, does it really to some people hold no significance at all? By the 7th/8th week a heart is developed of the fetus. Oh please do convince me that its just an organ and nothing more!
Anyone is invited to contribute his/her feelings about this issue. Ur thoughts would be highly appreciated.
Im trying to understand your point of view, in the middle part of the post you sound pro-abortion and at the end you sound anti-abortion.
The topic of abortion is defined clearcut in islam. Im not sure if you wish for me to give you the islamic point of view or just my own thoughts on it.
This is a question of extreme personal privacy and circumstance. You can never know what you would do in another's shoes till you've walked a mile or two in them.
We arent here to judge others, its hard enough to stay on the right path without worrying about what everyone else is doing
Maniac, I've only asked for individual opinions. No Islamic clearifications needed. Since in Islam and also Catholism, clearly abortion is out of question.
Mama dear... No judging here. If its a choice of a woman to go on her own and proceed with it. Really it doesn't matters to me. For everyone is free to live and breath as they wish. Clear?! However, what does bothers me, is when one is forced to it by other people while wishing to continue with the 9 months deal. Also if one is able to continue regardless of any hardship and its just a financial strain due to which they want to abort. It really doesn't seems a solid enuf reason to halt a beating heart for it yar! shrugs ohwell ...
Hiccup u've got guts. Straight forward right to the point :)
Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding....personally I would not abort a viable pregnancy.
I did however abort a "blighted ovum" pregnancy, the fetus was not viable and would not live past 12 to 14 weeks into the pregnancy. By going through the procedure, I was able to start trying again sooner and avoid potential problems with retained placenta etc.
I think forcing someone into abortion is a horrible act, especially when the mother wants to carry the baby.
hmmm if we are muslim, shouldnt that be our induvidual belief? anyways a child IS a child, not a choice…how can any pregnancy be unwanted, they know WHAT they are doing right..n if they are so worried about it why cant they use freaken protection
I heard abortion is okay in Islam if the case happens to be rape or something, and the time is limited. of course, people like to overlook that, and once again culture plays a large role. most cases, they’ll keep it regardless thinking its totally wrong to abort, when in islam, it’s actually okay given these weird circumstances. who wants to be raped at say age 14 or something, and then on top of that, have a child because of that rape?? that would jus be… and can turn a person…:bash:
freedom of choice to override any & all choices for some other living being.. Interesting, isn't it? and to make things a bit clear, the child's nervous system becomess responsive after the tenth week in pregnancy.
As a sane, adult human being one should endeavor to thoroughly understand the consequences of his/her actions, and if they fail to do so, let the nature take control.
I am separating all forced/unwanted scenarios from the above.
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Im trying to understand your point of view, in the middle part of the post you sound pro-abortion and at the end you sound anti-abortion.
The topic of abortion is defined clearcut in islam. Im not sure if you wish for me to give you the islamic point of view or just my own thoughts on it.
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Sara and Maniac: Since you two repeatedly insist on claiming that abortion is allowed in Islam would you care to post a few religious school of thought regarding it. For clearly I and so many here have been mislead if so.
Mama thanks for the input. I would agree that if circumstances arise as such than it makes it suitable for one to undergo the harsh procedure. Your contribution has been enlightening :-)
Tikie Jalaybi, I can relate to you when u ask “how can any (Normal)pregnancy be unwanted?” Beats me too especially when we are specifically talking about married folks here.
Hiccup and Sara again :) As far as protection is concerned, them oral contraceptives do a great job. Obviously its individualist choice to overlook the side effects in the long run. However, weighing the cons and pro, it’s smarter to use them than be lead into an unwanted pregnancy. Family health organizations in Pakistan are trying to raise awareness amongst the village folks to use them, but Sara you are right. In remote areas wives are considered personal property of the man and has no free will to decide for herself or for health. :-(
Razea: I disagree with your reply. I think it’s vice versa what you are saying. If I’m not wrong Islam forbids in all circumstances to abort a child. I will take my words back if I am wrong. That’s the reason I did not wanted to make this a religious argument. Truth is we live lives according to our desi culture and its set expectations and restrictions. I don’t think as a civilization we even have the ability to live by the ideals of Islam. For much of it is putrefied and converted into our own individualistic needs. Ofcourse we all try to walk on the right path as much as we can but most of the times it’s quite the opposite and very hard frankly. Its our culture that will rather take matters in its own hands and keep the “Naak” :-) if u know what I mean. Anyways don’t be dishearten by my words I meant no harm :-) You have just written justly incase of a rape. Its very traumatic and tragic to undergo something like that. Allah forbid any one to become a victim to it. Yes Razea when it comes to the world we are living in, society would compel the victim to abort if a pregnancy happens. What really bothers me is that in most areas of Pakistan the victim of rape is often led to walk the plank. Why? What was her fault? I’m completely going off topic now. But join in regardless…
RT wolf, lussi has no clue how much trouble he will be causing himself if he took his own advice.
Initiater: Interesting isn’t it:)
Overriding the right of existence of one helpless creature when it was the Creator Himself who actually ordained it so.
Gupies: Nature has a distinctive way of setting its course. For one thing, it’s best to let fate take care of its own predicaments. It’s hard to trust the divine intervention, but in circumstances like these it does not hurts to give it a chance ;-) Who knows it may be bundle of unexpected happiness, loads of good luck and prosperity on its way.
Adios!
DB
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Yes and *NEVER BE FORCED INTO ANYTHING AGAINGT YOUR FREE WILL!!! *
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and can turn a person…:bash: