Priorities of working women

I came for this today and Roman is getting me entangled in a cyber-spar :(. Khair.

Qs for the working women.

Class One:
What are your priorities? Is you a priority for yourself, and if so, what percentage of your life do you dedicate to yourself? If your spouse a priority, and if so, how much? What about parents and siblings? What about inlaws and other relatives? What order do you accord different people close to you? I’m not talking about friends, just family.

Class Two:
What percentage of your earnings do you dedicate to yourself, and what percentage to your family? If you had to choose between supporting your own family and sharing with your spouse and kids, how would you choose? What sacrifices are you willing to make in what areas, to achieve what exactly?

For example:

To send a younger sibling to school, would you give up having your own kids for a few years?

Would you give up the cost of your haircut for a meal for a distant relative?

If your spouse/partner and father/mother/guardian were both unemployed and penniless, would you choose to support one more than the other, equally, how exactly?

If you had to leave your state for a job in another state, would you expect your spouse to quit his and move with you, or would you not take up the job yourself?

Would you leave your spouse and kids/parents and siblings for your career?

Would you support your siblings’ spouses or kids financially, at the cost of your own spouse or children in some areas?

Who is more important to you when it comes to dividing the paycheck - Mom, Dad, Hubby, Sis, Bro, Aunty, Garndpa, Munna Munni, Yourself?

What I want to get from all this is, as a working woman, who do you live for? Yourself, your family, your spouse and kids, your mortgage, what exactly drives you? Why do you work?

Anyone? No need for hard quantitative answers, just theoretical qualitative ones will do.

:smack: uff.. phir khabi purrraaaaa par kar jawab doon gi.
Abhi this working women is going home :hula:

Muniya, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

Ana, can i make assumptions..what if i am in a middle of part-time/full-time job..i think i can partly answer some questions..i am in a middle of many things..so should i share those few answers.

Ana,

Honestly.. It used to be my marriage, my husband. But...unfortunately I discovered that his priorities are confused....or he is experiencing a midlife crisis...though he grudingly pays bills..

Myself, most definately my daughter, my nephew and my mother. And after that..still I put my husband before myself... Stupidly sad and nieve but hopeful.

And certainly I would give a bed to a desperate relative or friend.

(My father is passed away.) And just when I need him the most.

So... have mostly lived a life full of mistakes..but living and working on them. By that I mean is that... I always believed in happily ever after.. and I think I still do...but with a little cynicism included unfortunately.

Qrius & AAA, thanks for responding. AAA, we've all lived a life of mistakes, no one hasn't. But how we learn from them and make up for those mistakes is what counts.

Qrius, pls. definitely do share. I'd be interested in reading.

I spoke to an acquaintance recently. 25, 2 yr marriage, expecting first kid, medical doctor from Pakistan (non-practising), who quite stunned me with something she said, that's why I'm asking this question today to working women. She said that her parents are no longer part of her own family, and if her family suffered a crisis, she would rather work to benefit herself and her husband than her own parents or siblings. She said, and I quote: "They should take care of themselves. I won't undermine my marriage for my parent's security, and my siblings are not my concern". Now this is a very normal, jovial and nice woman who keeps very close contact with her parents and siblings, visits them very often, yet she can afford the luxury of separating out her emotions into compartments for how much duty one owes to whom. She doesn't work, she's eldest of a line of girls, her father's on a pension, mom is a housewife, but she herself flatly refuses to help out her parents, either now or later. What was a bit troubling for me was that she's a doctor, plus she's a local resident, I always thought that doctors who have degrees should do something with them, esp if they don't have visa hurdles. I wish I was a doctor, but frankly I didn't have the smarts for it. She said if her child was born and they needed money, she might consider going out and working to help her husband out, but that was it. And I'd always thought of her as the perfect wife.

And after that, I talk to a few more of my degreed housewifey friends, and they all echoed the very same thing.

So my dilemma is this - as someone's spouse, and someone's daughter/sister/aunt/niece/etc.. how much do you owe someone? How do you go about setting priorities? When you're employed by someone, it's clear-cut where your loyalties should lie in that area. But a family isn't a legally-binding contract really. If someone's brought you up and educated to their best ability, yet you take that degree and bring home a paycheck every month that goes into a joint account with your spouse - is that fair? Does a nephew's education have more priority than your own esp. when you already have a degree? How do you detach yourself from one family and move on to another? Would you sell your car to pay your dad's medical bill, esp. if that's the only car you got? If you're not married, yet you are the one slogging 8 hours a day in a flourescent cage, do you necessarily feel like sharing with your parents/guardians? If you don't do any sharing business, how do you justify it? Of course, if you family is wealthy and can manage itself, that's entirely different, but here I'm mainly talking about aging parents, unschooled or umemployed siblings or their kids, your own spouses and kids, in average income families that depend on a salary.

And also, how much should your spouse be willing to give up? Is it fair on him (since we're talking women here) to be willing to forgo sit-down breakfasts, lunches and sometimes even dinners, while you share the burden of bringing up baby?

How do you even begin to prioritize your life?

I also want to know how the educated housewife mentality thinks different from the working woman mentality. How do you justify staying at home all day flipping soap opera channels (been there, done that). Is it really just because of the kids that you stay at home, or that you want to stay at home and you enjoy it? All which is perfectly fine as well. If you don't have kids, how important are three sit-down meals a day and embroidered bedcovers to you? What is your perception of women who go out to work?

I don't know if all this making any sense, but what I just want to know is what women think, and how they think up all these things, and why. Mebbe some things here r too personal, but I just thought I'd ask.

Dear Ana,

As one who can say.."been there, done that."

Both ways.

Working and not working.

I don't know. Still kinda caught in confusion. Or trapped.

But.. trapped or not. My family comes first. Always.

I believe a woman (or a man) should work towards the betterment of their IMMEDIATE family, that is eachother and children (if any). YOU COME FIRST. If you are weak and always worrying about others, you won't do anything for yourself. Only a strong YOU is good for the extended family.

I see a lot of cases where the girl gets married and becomes a lot more attached to her family than she was before marriage. All of a sudden she wants to do something for them. Where the hell was she when she was single?.

So, the FIRST and foremost priority is your new family. And I agree with that doctor lady. Her married life is still in the initial stages.

This applies to men too. After marriage, their top priority and responsibility should be the wife and children. Parents and siblings come later.

Phoo, Ana, that's a lot of questions. I'll attempt to answer what jumped out at me the most.

"Degreed housewifey friends" strike me as women who gutted their parents for a degree they couldn't give two hoots for only to be more marketable spouses. If education really is your thing then put it to good use. Marriage doesn't mean you turn into an eggplant.

For the rest, I suppose it has a lot to do with what your relationship with family members is. I really hope my actions are prompted by love and because I was loved by my parents (funny how love is measured by material wealth in some people's eyes) and not because a morally bankrupt soul wants to fill up on some of that warm fuzzy goodness.

I don't think you owe anyone that grace save for your parents. But think of this, your kid is bound to echo the same selfish sentiments of your acquaintance to some extent and so the cycle repeats itself. It makes me want to rethink my own sense of priorities, trust me.

As for siblings' kids, they made conscious decisions to bring kids into the world. They should be responsible for them. You have your own to worry about.

Why do I work? For a whole bunch of cliched and yet real reasons. I hate being a slave to money and yes, would rather spend time doting on myself, hubby, taking the kids to the park but it gives me a sense of self to work. This way I don't feel entirely dependent on my husband. Hah, besides I like pretty things.

Islamically i think Parents(specially mother) take priority over siblings / spouse.

Tough decision to choose between any of them though....

funguy very well said :k:
i am 101 % agree with u at the issue of the first priority is your new family. i too have seen many gals who are more intressted n get more close to her family than they was before , it is fine to get close lakin i think ur own family comes first.and i think such kind og girls married life isnt strong .

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Nice information....

FG and mehroo, I don't quite agree. I think a woman owes a lot of allegiance to her own family, and it's selfish of her to go run off after her own life. Her life was because of her parents in the first place.

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"Degreed housewifey friends" strike me as women who gutted their parents for a degree they couldn't give two hoots for only to be more marketable spouses. If education really is your thing then put it to good use. Marriage doesn't mean you turn into an eggplant.
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I totally agree IMA. I don't like to hear about a woman with valuable skills, esp. certainly more valuable than my own, who won't put them to good use. What was the point of all that education then? If you don't want to work for a paycheck, that's fine. But esp. as a doctor or a teacher or something that benefits society and people really need, you can volunteer your services even 2 or 3 hours a day in so many places.
Plus, why did your parents pay so much to send you to school, and why did you take away the quota seats that could have gone to other girls and boys who really did want to make use of that degree? Was it just for status, izzat, or time-pass?

Yes I have seen a lot of women too, who try to slitter back into their family's good graces after marriage, as if they feel guilty getting married, esp. if it's been a love match. Most of the time they didn't do anything for their parents before, and after marriage, esp. the housewifey-kind, try to get their husband to integrate into their own family circle and draw him away from his own family. It's a political, ego-boosting, power-consolidating charade; it's got little or nothing to do with actually caring for their parents or siblings.

In my opinion, educated girls who just consolidate their positions in their own new families, are basically insecure, thinking their husband will leave them if they want to look after their own parents and siblings. I don't know. I just don't think its right.

I mean, most parents or siblings will never tell you they need you. They will always put on a face of "Oh beta/baji, everything's fine, we're fine, don't worry". But is it fair to just leave them on the crossroads and set off on your own, when you know in your heart that this is the time they really need you?

But thanks for the responses guys 'n gals. Munni, I got u. Thanks.

Ana, I dont think there is a default answer. Although we would like to think that there is an obvious yes or no...

I think it matters allot on your relationship with your family.

Personally, my parents would be offended if I gave them out right cash and so would Salman. So Salman takes are of me and the house cuz he would have it no other way. I do little thinngs for the house to help my parents out... ie new tables, a cute decoration piece that I run into or new curtains that my mom wants but is to frugal to buy, and the rest of my money goes into a savings accts for a rainy day or to buy a house.

As for personal spending.. well I have this American express card.. soley for me.. I do whatever I need on that and Salman insists on paying it. Its the tradional man in him, so I let him but when his b-day comes along we make sure its special. :)

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Islamically i think Parents(specially mother) take priority over siblings / spouse.

Tough decision to choose between any of them though....
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I was once told by a learned islamic person that if a wife demands her husband for a separate home (from her in-laws) then it becomes compulsary for the husband to accomodate her demand.

I am not sure baout the authencity of this statement but it sure makes sense to me.

I am not suggesting to leave your aging parents on their own. There must be some balance.