As expected, here it comes … “Princess and t/ Marine” TV movie about t/ Bahraini, teenager princess who eloped & married t/ U.S. Marine a few months back. She was also visiting Oprah last nite, (but I missed most of it!)
Incase nothing better to do, it will be airing on NBC on Sunday 18th Feb, 2001 @ 8 or 9p.m.EST.
Why am I already cringing???
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**As expected, here it comes ... "Princess and t/ Marine" TV movie about t/ Bahraini, teenager princess who eloped & married t/ U.S. Marine a few months back. She was also visiting Oprah last nite, (but I missed most of it!)
Incase nothing better to do, it will be airing on NBC on Sunday 18th Feb, 2001 @ 8 or 9p.m.EST.
Why am I already cringing???
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Funky,
Why do you cring?was she your sister?She might not have been a muslim?,So nothing applies in her case
I did see Oprah,part of her.You couldnt tell her apart from a regular senior in anytown usa High School cheer leader squad.Her accent was American than foreign from anywhere.So why the boo ha ha about an ordinary American high school typical teen looking princess or not who cares.There are many rani in this forum for that matter.
I ve lived in Bahrain & Gulf,they are not seriously islamically gov. countries like Iran or Saudie.Not that it makes any difference but here in usa they are making it as if it was 8th wonder of the world & it isnt.It was difficult to escape but such incidents cant be impossible & i dont want even want to blame any one b/c there is no compulsion in religion &To you your belief & to me my belief.For muslims this incident should be passe,ignored & not play into the hands of stereotyping .Let us be as diverse as countries where muslims live from indonesia to Usa.Islamically it is not possible withbeing a muslim,& if oine choses one leaves islam voluntarily .
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I am myself a dream :)
I always see you
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Sanam wrote: Why do you cring?was she your sister?
Geeee wiz Sanam, Relax! No need to bring in my sister here, ok?? I NEVER, EVER do that & definitely do not appreciate that. Get that straight. I'm, not 'cring' as you said, but 'cringing'. There's a difference, one you wouldn't understand & I'm not about to xplain it to you & waste my breath on you.
Sanam wrote: I ve lived in Bahrain & Gulf,they are not seriously islamically gov. countries like Iran or Saudie.Not that it makes any difference but here in usa they are making it as if it was 8th wonder of the world & it isnt.
Geuss what? So have I, so go impress sum1 else!
As if Iran & Saudi are "seriously Islamic countries", their men wudn't be screwing around & Iranian women wudn't be throwing thr scarves as soon as they stepped out of Iran! Plssss, I know all about THAT!
And Take a chill pill wud ya?? Itnay garam honay kii koii zaroorat nahii hay!
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Thursday February 15 3:41 AM ET
No crown for ``Princess’’
The Princess and the Marine (Sun. (18), 9-11 p.m., NBC)
By Michael Speier
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - An international love story reduced to teeny-bopper sensationalism, ``The Princess and the Marine’’ should have been a perfect sweeps entry full of romance, intrigue and danger.
But anyone who has followed this complicated courtship via newsmags and press clippings will quickly realize that NBC has put aside the intricacies and settled instead for a simple fable targeted to the Britney Spears set. The elements are definitely ripe for a multi-layered telepic; this one’s execution, however, is all wrong.
When it made headlines last year, the almost unbelievable tale of a Bahranian heiress who gave up her future in order to marry an American was followed by a vocal majority who were hoping the sweethearts would avoid prosecution. That support was due to reports that she would be killed by some of her male relatives, who have apparently become dishonored by her actions.
Death threats aside, a rebellious spirit defines Meriam-Al Khalifa (Marisol Nichols), a defiant 17-year-old who is enraged that her parents have arranged her marriage to a family friend. A brave girl with a foolish streak, she deals with the situation by calling up strangers in order to talk through her feelings.
One of her distressed calls is placed to Lance Corporal Trucker, a party-boy Marine who convinces friend and comrade Jason Johnson (Mark-Paul Gosselaar) to tag along to a local mall, where Meriam has planned to meet them in secret.
There, she falls instantly for Jason, a devout Mormon who immediately returns the sentiment, and they spend all of their free time – he’s stationed there for two years – talking on the phone, longing for one another and plotting their next tryst.
After Jason finds out that Meriam is royalty, he starts in earnest to maneuver their escape, but not before her family intimidates her with threats of abandonment. Her strict mother (Luck Hari) commands Meriam to cut off contact with the soldier, while her best friends constantly warn the couple about imminent trouble.
After none-too-elaborate planning – Jason picks Meriam up outside her mansion one evening for an airport getaway – and a risky move involving forged documents and I.D. badges, they board a plane and land in Chicago, where they are quickly arrested and separated.
They are eventually reunited after a helpful INS agent helps her to apply for political asylum, though Jason is stripped of his rank. Their case has not yet been heard.
Director Mike Robe has made ``Princess’’ very easy to digest, replacing confusion, fear and anxiety with stolen kisses and trips to the food court. (The behavior is almost too Westernized considering it takes place in the Middle East.) The result is a mixed blessing: Project is simple and comfortable but misses out on the serious inspection of religion and legal wrangling.
As for the perfs, Nichols is believable enough as Meriam, while Gosselaar is as strong and stoic as journalists have made him out to be. But the roles, as written by scenarist Ronni Kern, are much too uncomplicated to be taken that seriously, especially since the possibility of prison – even murder – continues to looms large.
It’s instantly noticeable that convenient sets in Los Angeles and Palm Springs stand in for Bahrain (news - web sites), a move which hogties production designer Curtis Schnell’s ability to make this an authentic-looking production. He tries a little too hard to displace reality by filling the background with, of all things, a lot of camels.
Jason Johnson … Mark-Paul Gosselaar
Meriam Al-Khalifa … Marisol Nichols
Trucker … Keith Robinson
Smitty … Dave Power
With: Atossa Leoni, Alexis Lopez, Navi Rawat, Luck Hari, Dale Johnson.
Filmed in Los Angeles and Palm Springs by Proud Mary Entertainment and Stephanie Germain Prods. in association with Columbia TriStar Television. Executive producers, Mary L. Aloe, Tom Colbert, Stephanie Germain; producer, Preston Fischer; director, Mike Robe; writer, Ronni Kern; camera, Ed Pei; production designer, Curtis Schnell; editor, Sabrina Plisco-Morris; music, Laura Karpman; casting, Reuben Cannon.
Reuters/Variety REUTERS
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010215/en/review-televisionprincess_1.html
I like that review… 
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yeah.. i wonder when they will make a movie bout diana and dodi ;P
since this is in shor sharaba, I dont wanna go into discussing the event but the movie although I have a lil bit to say about the incident...if ya opress someone, they may rebel, and this is a classic example.
as far as the movie, I made a point to see it, just to see how it is presented to audience here..and it was fairly bubble-gummy..
wonder when they will make a movie about the bahraini princess who ran to UK and became a guy :> heh now that is somfin
if ya opress someone, they may rebel, and this is a classic example.
Opression possibly leads to rebellion, true...but im not sure this was a good example. The girl/princess had more freedom than one could ask for. If freedom is defined as the ability to have boyfriends and roam about with them, then well yes, thats scorned upon. But I wouldnt call that opressive.
However, the movie was a waste. It was shown more as a romantic romeo juliet affair without the logistics involved. They simply made it out to be a 'heroic marine' and a 'searching for freedom princess' wanting to escape from 'opressive islamic culture' into 'free for all mormonism'.
And mind you, this was only their side of the story. Noone knows for sure what led to this, and what the other side of the story is. They portrayed making out and kissing and fondling as 'freedom'. Well if thats what it is to the west, then so be it. But no need to justify their erratic behavior by unjustly demonizing Islam and the eastern culture.
As xpected, it was a truly a one sided, biased, rating hungry TV movie, depicting nothing more than a case of a bored "poor litle rich girl!".
I often wonder what if this was a 17 yr old American chick, fleeing her parents w/ a Muslim?? Would they still have made it this sappy love story? I highly doubt it!
Agree w/ both you EA & Fraudia, in respect that yes, it was definitely a case of oppressing sum1 etc. yet t/ girl seemes to have more freedom than an avge 17 yr old Middle Eastern girl. In my opinion, her case was not unusual than an avge teenage girl facing almost similar problems in America. My interest in this story is not cuz of t/ princess & t/ marine, but this is somthing which is possible anywhere (considering t/ American forces in t/ Gulf & Muslim familes in t/ West) & w/ anyone.
I think parents need to rethink what is missing. Issuing orders to your kids & xpecting them to follow blindly is not t/ way to raise a family anymore. T/ girl apparently has no interest in school (or so it seems). We cannot state enough importance of education on our kids to keep them busy, not to mention keep them on t/ right track. Also, instead of stuffing Islamic values down thr throats, xplain them why we do certain things or don't do them for that matter.
T/ movie didn't even show one positive aspect of Bahrain or it's Muslim culture. But on t/ other hand, EVRYTHING is great in America, unlike reality, where there is good & bad everywhere & in all cultures. Never had I seen a camel while in t/ Mid East, let alone right outside a nice hotel in t/ heart of a city. T/ marine while @ Las Vegas Airport @ t/ gambling machine instructs t/ princesss on using t/ gambling machine says, "Mormons aren't allowed to gamble", as if Islam does?? I however do agree that if t/ girl now ever returns to Bahrain, she will be killed unfortunately, no doubt about that!
They not only managed to dish t/ Bahraini culture, but t/ subliminal message that Islam is,once again, very oppressive was not so subliminal!
Maybe Americans need to make movies dissing muslims to feel good about themselves? Look at the Princess. She's already on Oprah which shows she has fitted into American life very well. Hopefully she'll be on Jerry Springer soon in an episode entitled 'Yikes - my mother-in-law is an alien from the planet Zarg!'
As I said..maybe we need to make a movie of Diana and Dodi
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Lets see what happens then eh?
Xtreme agree w/ u. Besides, how else will they justify what they do in t/ ME. Do have a question tho, is it this bad in t/ U.K. and t/ rest of Europe i.e. t/ image of Islam & it's followers, or is it just t/ good ol' USA? I know in America, they WANT to remain ignorant about us & t/ media feeds this paranoia abt us non stop. Oh, it's ok if you're not a practicing Muslim, but God forbid if you follow Islam even a little bit, they love to label you as a 'fanatic', 'fundamentalist', or sumthing just short of a terrorist!
Fraudia, I thought they already did mke a movie on Dodi & Di. Altho I wudn't be surprised if they showed Dodi trying to 'FORCE' Di into converting into Islam as had been sggsted by quite a few specially when t/ accident took place.
My point is do whatever you wanna do, ok. But don't bring ISLAM or your culture down w/ you, cuz first, everybody has thr own interpretation of ISLAM, which can be quite inaccurate. Second, don't fall prey to t/ Western media, who as it is loves to portray t/ worst about Islam & it's people. I don't care what you do, smoke pot, drink beer etc.etc. Don't play t/ blame game.
Also, nobody conveniently, wants to remember t/ girl was a 'minor'. They are just glad it wasn't t/ other way around i.e. a teenage American girl eloping w/ a Muslim guy aftr dumping her family & her country & blaming evrybody & evrything in her life!
hahha! I liked Fraudiya's and Extreme's reply, I got the chance to watch the TV movie.
Amazing how Americans are so good in changing the facts. Trying to show how Islam is so strict and women are trying to run away from this oppression!
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My point is do whatever you wanna do, ok. But don't bring ISLAM or your culture down w/ you, cuz first, everybody has thr own interpretation of ISLAM, which can be quite inaccurate. Second, don't fall prey to t/ Western media, who as it is loves to portray t/ worst about Islam & it's people. I don't care what you do, smoke pot, drink beer etc.etc. Don't play t/ blame game.
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Very true, but how much do most people know about Islam, and the real laws?
Many young teenagers are never really taught what their religion is all about, just taught to read the Quran and pray, thats it. They are never given reasons why certain things cant be done and why certain things are not allowed.
We all know how impressionable young teenagers are, especially girls. Now think about it, she was a princess yeah? The males of her family were most probably having affairs left right and centre with white women and all the freedom you could ask for, we all know what these royal families are like.
This young girl probably thought she should be able to do that aswell.
She did what she thought was right and as a person she thinks she has made the best choice for herself.
I see it here in England, a Paki guy will be going out with a girl and his sister will start doing the same, only because he can do it, why cant I? It becomes a type of competition.
The bad side is that the media is having a field day with it and using it to tar our religion once again. And these uneducated kids give fuel to it, by openly degrading their own culture and religion.
At the end of the day it comes to lack of education about our own religion and what we stand for.
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"She did what she thought was right and as a person she thinks she has
made the best choice for herself.
I see it here in England, a Paki guy will be going out with a girl and
his sister will start doing the same, only because he can do it, why ? It becomes a type of competition"MARIAH.
cant I
17 years arent allowed to make those discisions no matter what she thinks legally even in the west(nonreligous law)Everbody knows muslims have islamic code that not only run the country ,but muslim are expected to follow it in non islamic countries too.The only reason i can give that subconsciously she renounced her religion but at 17 she cant do that too.
If a paki guy goes out with any girl at inappropriate age ,he would be censored too,It doesnt give a muslim girl any license or reason to do what this girl did.Each person is accountable for himself& there is no guilt for any body except girls are just as likely to go astray as men.
Not only islam but serious scientist will tell you there is difference in biology psychology & sociology of women compared to men& the argument "if he can do it why cant i is WRONG" although it's taken as given right for pseudo liberals.