True or false?
When and where is pride okay and what about jhooti anna - is there any place for false pride in our interpersonal relationships?
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Just to clarify, that’s me geting my caffeine fix at the moment, not the sarcastic smilie as it is intended. It’s far too early to be this philosophical for me right now… so ummm.. carry on and stuff.
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^ I just finished my morning java so I'm wide awake and ready to ponder deeper issues. Come back after you've had your coffee :)
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it is ok to express your pride for your children when they accomplished some meaningful work.
it is bad when pride impact negatively on others.
no, i dont think false pride can make inner peace.
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so deep i got lost thinking about it, no input atm sorry
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There's healthy pride and hurtful pride. I do believe that hurtful pride eventually leads to a person's downfall. That sort of pride BLINDS you....from seeing your mistakes...from seeing how your words/actions affect others....it just prevents you from seeing clearly, from being cautious......and that's what eventually brings you down. And it's often embarrassing. What's even worse is when such individuals still can't let go of that pride ...enough to admit their mistakes/apologize to others.
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I think there is barely room for pride much less jhooti ana. Self respect is another matter
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As mentioned above, it's ok to ne proud about your/ your kids' achievements..but only on a healthy level.
Your pride should not blind you and definitely should not result in you putting others down.
As for false pride, I think one would know in their heart how much they can really believe in it.
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I ponder this alot too....to what extent is pride helpful before ti turns harmful?
Let's say there's a friend that hardly ever initiates contact, you're the one to do it....after a point, you start to think, ok let them contact me....so a week, a month, 2 months can pass by and nothing from them...at that point you think..forget it, I am never contacting them again...but then, idk, you start missing them and decide that tis not that big of a deal and contact them.
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I ponder this alot too....to what extent is pride helpful before ti turns harmful?
Let's say there's a friend that hardly ever initiates contact, you're the one to do it....after a point, you start to think, ok let them contact me....so a week, a month, 2 months can pass by and nothing from them...at that point you think..forget it, I am never contacting them again...but then, idk, you start missing them and decide that tis not that big of a deal and contact them.
Some amount of pride in the form of self-respect is necessary and healthy. I think that when your pride prevents you from listening to other people, prevents you from considering their views, frequently prevents you from giving others the benefit of the doubt, prevents you from communicating respectfully, prevents you from respecting the boundaries/limits of other people, prevents you from admitting mistakes to yourself and others, and prevents you from apologizing......it's reached a harmful stage, especially if these behaviors happen often.
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Pride is a good thing sometimes but do not wear it if it gets too big for you.
I am way too proud for my own good sometimes but theres always something waiting to trip you up… so take life as it comes.
Just remember when the cloth of pride gets too big for you to walk without tripping and falling… then simply cut it away yourself. Theres no better feeling in the world than to play the fool as your friends host sometimes. 
So yeah thats one way to do it… :icono:
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yeah but what if that pride prevents you from just talking to someone you miss for whatever reason?
(this is the whiny girly side of me taking over 
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Sara, I don’t think that there’s a clear-cut/black and white answer for this. Yes, it can be argued that you not calling your friend because she didn’t call you…can be seen as pride. DO you think that perhaps she got caught up in something? Not giving the benefit of the doubt can be a sign of pride. But you know this girl more than we do…if this lack of reciprocation is usual problem with her…then your behavior can even be seen as maintaining your self-respect.