Presidential Immunity

Faroog Naseem, one of the most brilliant lawyer of Pakistan, thinks the very idea of Presidential immunity is against the constitution of Pakistan. His argument is that no law can be legislated in by the parliament of Pakistan against the principles of Islam. The very basis of Islamic judicial system is based on legal equality for all and does not give any immunity to the rulers of the country..

Our PPP led govt. thinks the president has immunity from the legal process.. and they believe this immunity is automatically assumed without claiming the concession from the courts.

There are different precedents adopted in different parts of the world where immunity was denied or granted by the court of law in different countries. But it must be noted even in the instances where immunity was granted, the issue of immunity was always claimed and argued before the courts… and final authority to extend or deny the immunity was always the judiciary. Never in the history of justice immunity was taken for granted by the executive as is the case with our present govt. who are defying court verdicts on the assumption of immunity without claiming it.

Revisiting the concept of presidential immunity

Sabir Shah
Monday, January 16, 2012
LAHORE: Courts in US, Italy and Liberia have barred their respective rulers from invoking immunity law but Chile and France granted this privilege to their presidents.

It goes without saying that despite the silence of the US Constitution in this context, the American legal history provides at least two oft-quoted examples where Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton were denied Presidential Immunity while in office.

On August 17, 1998, Clinton became the first sitting US President to testify before a grand jury investigating his conduct in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

In other words, all his efforts to invoke executive privilege to his benefit were thwarted by the court. He was impeached in this case on December 19, 1998 by the House of Representatives and later acquitted by the Senate.

Clinton thus became the first elected US president and the second to be impeached, following Andrew Johnson in 1868.

In Monica Lewinsky case, he was found guilty by Justice Webber Wright in contempt for giving misleading and evasive answers.

The sitting president was consequently fined $90,686 in July 1998 for the contempt violation by the court.

**Earlier, Clinton was involved in another controversy with a woman called Paula Corbin Jones. In this sexual harassment case, the sitting president had prayed before the court that he be granted immunity from this civil lawsuit, where his actions prior to his taking office as president were challenged.

Without a single dissenting note coming from any of the judges hearing this case on May 27, 1997, the US court ruled in favour of Paula Jones (a state clerical employee working at the registration desk for a conference at the Excelsior Hotel in Little Rock) by finding that the president did not enjoy immunity from civil lawsuits relating to personal conduct that was not part of his official duties. **

The judges had ruled that although a President could not be sued for actions related to his official duties, he was subject to the same laws regulating purely private behaviour as the general population.

The verdict in the landmark case of Clinton v. Jones (1997) had thus set up a precedent that a sitting US President was not immune from prosecution for acts committed before taking office.

As far as brief details of this case are concerned, a woman Paula Jones had accused Clinton of making sexual advances towards her in 1991. The case was filed in May 1994 and Bill Clinton was elected President of the United States in 1992.

The court had dismissed the Paula Jones harassment lawsuit (before trial) on grounds that Jones had failed to demonstrate any damages, but not before Clinton had entered into an out-of-court settlement by agreeing to pay $850,000 to the plaintiff woman.

Revisiting the case of President Richard Nixon, one finds that the US Supreme Court had voted unanimously (without a dissenting voice) to limit his powers during the Watergate scandal probe.

This case is considered a crucial precedent in restricting the power of any US president by the court, surprising many legal experts in the world who were strong believers of the doctrine of immunity that had its roots in the law of feudal England of 13th century and was based on the tenet that the king could do no wrong.

In the 1974 United States versus Nixon case, involving the demand by Watergate Special Prosecutor that President Nixon should produce the audiotapes of conversations he and his colleagues had held in the Oval Office in connection with criminal charges brought up against them, the sitting president had invoked his privilege and refused to produce any records.

But President Nixon was denied this right by the court and was eventually ordered to produce the illegally obtained tapes.

Nixon has been the only US president to resign from office in August 1974 before the House impeachment vote.

It was the same Richard Nixon, who had won the court’s favour in 1982, when he was no longer the president.

In the Nixon versus Fitzgerald Case of 1982, the US Supreme Court had granted absolute immunity to Nixon from a liability predicated on one of his official acts while he was serving as head of state.

In this particular case, a weapons analyst called Ernest Fitzgerald had been fired by the US Air Force after he had disclosed certain irregularities within the Defence Department to the Congress.

(References: The Washington Post and The New York Times etc)

Fitzgerald later sued Nixon for wrongful retaliatory termination. The court emphasized the importance of the duties of the president and noted that the diversion of the president’s energies over concern for private lawsuits would raise unique risks to the effective functioning of government.

The US court had also observed that the president, in view of the visibility of the office, would be an easy target for civil lawsuits, observing that ensuing personal vulnerability and distraction would prove harmful to the nation.

Similarly, on January 13, 2011, Italy’s constitutional court had gone on to strike down parts of a law supported by (then) Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi that would have given him and his ministers temporary immunity from criminal charges while they were in office. (Reference: US Library of Congress website, February 11, 2011 edition)

As passed by the Italian Senate in March 2010, Law No. 51 of April 7, 2010 had permitted cabinet officials to postpone criminal proceedings against them that were underway or due to be started within 18 months of the law’s date of enactment, if the charges constituted a “‘legitimate impediment’ to the performance of their duties.”

Among other matters, the court had ruled that the afore-cited law violated Article 3 of the Italian Constitution, which stipulates that “all citizens have equal social status and are equal before the law” and Article 138 by allowing an “unreasonable disparity between the rights of defence and the needs of jurisdiction.”

(Reference: Constitution of the Italian Republic, Senate of Italy website)

It also held that it was the court’s authority to make the assessment of how severely criminal charges might disrupt state business. By a large majority of 12-3, the Court had held that the law should be amended to permit a postponement of the charges of up to six months, rather than 18.

The Italian Constitutional Court’s above-mentioned decision marked the third time when the judges had actually found similar immunity laws unconstitutional. The previous rulings were issued in January 2004 and on October 7, 2009.

(Reference: BBC report of October 8, 2009)

On October 7, 2009, the arbiters had voted 9-6 to in favour of lifting Berlusconi’s immunity.

By October 2009, Berlusconi had managed to win three of the five elections he had contested.

Courtesy the immunity law, he had also succeeded in evading two cases against him, one in connection with a bribe that he had paid to a British lawyer and another with alleged fraud related to the purchase of TV rights by his media company.

In the wake of the court’s decision, with the trials against the embattled Prime Minister set to continue, Berlusconi again pushed a measure through parliament that conferred temporary immunity upon Italy’s highest officeholders.

It is pertinent to note that the latest version of the Italian immunity law had been approved by the chamber of deputies in February 2010, a month after hundreds of Italian judges had staged a walkout to protest another law that imposed strict time limits on trial and appeal procedures.

The two laws have been criticized as “tailored for Berlusconi’s benefit.”

Subsequently, in April 2010, prosecutors tried to indict Premier Berlusconi on charges of embezzlement, alleged payment for sex with an underage nightclub dancer and alleged abuse of authority in attempting to cover up the relationship.

According to the Italian law, a maximum combined term of 15 years in prison could be imposed upon conviction for the two offences of abuse of office and sex with an underage prostitute.

Berlusconi, who was facing growing criticism related to his personal scandals, had opted to resign as Prime Minister on November 16, 2011.

Various reputed international media outlets also reported that his resignation came amid growing fiscal problems related to the European debt crisis.

The former Italian premier had once publicly confessed in his own words that while 789 prosecutors and magistrates had taken an interest in his cases from 1994 to 2006, police had visited him 577 times and that he had attended over 2,500 court hearings, apart from paying 174 million euros to his lawyers.

(Reference: Reuters report of July 22, 2008)

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Whether or not president should have immunity from criminal proceedings is an interesting question but does not relate to current situation.

The constitution of Pakistan is very clear about it. No criminal proceedings (regarding personal conduct or official) can be initiated against the president. That's that and people should have thought about it when voting for Zardari as president.

The president is supposed to be a non-political, non-partisan symbol of federation. You cannot really elect a chairman of largest political party as president and then cry afterwards!!!!

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It is relevant in present scenario.. as our govt. is defying the NRO decisions on the basis of self assumed immunity without claiming it from the courts. This is the basis of present stand off between judiciary and the PPP govt.

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I dont know what motives have Farooq Nasim in saying that but President and governors have immunity as per present constitution of Pakistan. No one has challenged that for last about 40 years. Only parliament can change that.

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If the president has immunity, can he do anything while he is the president and get away with it?

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I don't know, but if i recall it right, Aitzaz Ahsan once said that Mushy ( President back then) have no immunity and now he is saying that Zardari have immunity...

I think the immunity for president is for the actions he may have taken in the interest of the country during his tenure as a president of country and that also have some limits that is why immunity for president in Pakistan and through out the world is claimed through judiciary and not assumed as some have done in Pakistan.

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Never in the history of judiciary immunity has been assumed in any country what-so-ever. I twas always claimed and it was up to the courts to grant/deny the immunity. Please carefully the article I posted. Nowhere in the world it was self acclaimed/assumed as our govt. is doing presently. Question of immunity negates the basic principle of equal legal status for everyone.. and parliament (according to some jurist) can not legislate against this basic principle of equal justice even if they want to. Moreover our constitution states that no legislation can be made against the principles of Islam. Therefore granting immunity to the president is against the spirit of the constitution of Pakistan and thus the parliament can not decide the immunity for anyone.

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I think the bigger issue is that NRO deals with crimes committed pre-presidency, so immunity would not cover it IMO. I agree that it is a constitutional matter that the court should argue on.

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**No blanket immunity to anyone: former SC judge

**ISLAMABAD: As the secret memo issue has again spotlighted the question of constitutional immunity, a key member of Supreme Court benches that decided the NRO case, insists that the constitution does not give blanket immunity to anyone.
Talking to The News the respected judge, now retired, said no malicious and invalid act of any public office holder could be condoned of merely because of Article 248 - the constitutional provision dealing with the immunity of public office holders.
According to the judge, there is no dearth of Supreme Court decisions where the constitutional immunity was exempted in cases where the public office holders were found to have acted maliciously and invalidly. Even President Musharraf’s constitutional immunity was not accepted by the Supreme Court in its detailed judgment of the July 20, 2007 CJ’s restoration case.

In the NRO case, the Supreme Court while ignoring the immunity issue had directed the NAB not only to reopen all NRO cases but also asked the bureau to write to Swiss and other foreign authorities for the reopening of the corruption cases abroad.

It is interesting to find Barrister Aitzaz Ahsan, Hamid Ali Khan and Fakhruddin G Ibrahim had vigorously fought against the constitutional immunity that Sharifuddin Peerzada and Malik Qayyum were seeking from the court in favour of Musharraf during dictator’s rule.

Both Aitzaz Ahsan and Hamid Ali Khan while citing the example of Hazrat Umar (RA), who was questioned for his Abaya (long shirt), said if the second Caliph of Islam could be questioned then why not the president of Pakistan. Not only that, Justice Ramday had said in his observations that the president was not above the law, and the same was pressed by Aitzaz Ahsan too. When Aitzaz was arguing for action against President Musharraf despite Article 248, he was asked by Justice Nawaz Abbasi that if Article 2(A) was read with Article 248 of the constitution how would it impact the president. To this, Aitzaz said although he did not want to refer to the Islamic traditions, if Hazrat Umar (RA) could be questioned about his Abaya (long shirt), why could not President Musharraf be questioned in the case.

According to newspaper reporting of the case at that time, Aitzaz Ahsan had also argued that according to Article 248, the president and governor could not be made party in criminal cases, they could not be arrested but if any of their acts was contrary to the law, they have no protection under Article 248. Justice Ramday was also reported to have observed that no state functionary, not even the president could claim absolute immunity. “What the law said was that the president could not be made a respondent before a court by name under Article 248, although nobody could claim absolute immunity,” Justice Ramday had said, while responding to arguments of Advocate Hamid Khan, representing the Pakistan Bar Council, who had stated that the counsel of the federal government were claiming immunity for the president that he was not answerable to the court.

Citing two cases from the US judicial history, United States versus President Nixon and President Clinton versus Jones, Hamid Ali Khan was reported to have recalled that the two presidents of America had also claimed privilege, but the US courts had interpreted the laws in a different way, contrary to what was being asserted. Hamid Ali Khan in his arguments had also referred to Maulana Shibli Nomani’s book al-Farooq and said Hazrat Umar (RA) had appeared before a Qazi 10 times.
However, Sharifuddin Pirzada and Malik Qayyum had shown their serious grievance over the issue. Both had argued that under articles 211 and 248, the president cannot be impleaded due to the immunity available in these articles.

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Actually, the concept of immunity comes from English Common Law where kings/queens or person/persons acting on their behalf had immunity. Pakistan, like most of the world, operates under a written constitution, and not under Islamic Laws; therefore, this concept applies to to head of the state/govt.

Also, there is reason for giving immunity to heads of govt/state b/c often times they have to make life or death decisions that average person does not have to deal with & they must have immunity to act w/o fear of prosecution. Additionally, head of state/govt represent co-equal branch of govt which makes executive decisions, and just like judges and members of parliament (in many countries) are immune from prosecution (they make laws why wouldn't they protect themselves?), presidents/pms have blanket immunity from prosecution. Only exception to this rule is treason, a specific type of crime listed/defined by the constitution, and its punishment is usually prescribed, too, in the constitution.

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yar kaisi baatain kartay ho................... when the govt itself came into being after NRO ...... the worst thing that anyone could ever think of anywhere in the world................ what goes on in the rest of the world doesn't really matter IMO.

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1) Constitution of Pakistan clearly states that legislation can not be made against the spirit of Islam.

2) Immunity is not only against the spirit of Islam but also against the very basis of any judicial system. It was not granted in US/Italy on these grounds when the Head of the state claimed it:

**A) "Earlier, Clinton was involved in another controversy with a woman called Paula Corbin Jones. In this sexual harassment case, the sitting president had prayed before the court that he be granted immunity from this civil lawsuit, where his actions prior to his taking office as president were challenged.

Without a single dissenting note coming from any of the judges hearing this case on May 27, 1997, the US court ruled in favour of Paula Jones (a state clerical employee working at the registration desk for a conference at the Excelsior Hotel in Little Rock) by finding that the president did not enjoy immunity from civil lawsuits relating to personal conduct that was not part of his official duties."**

B) "Among other matters, the court had ruled that the afore-cited law violated Article 3 of the Italian Constitution, which stipulates that “all citizens have equal social status and are equal before the law” and Article 138 by allowing an “unreasonable disparity between the rights of defence and the needs of jurisdiction.” "

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I just hate this word “Immunity” which reminds me Raymond Davis :aj:

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yazid:

1) The spirit of Islam is a very vague term. Its means different things to different people. There is no uniformed "spirit of Islam" understood by everyone. In legal system you must have defined terminology so there is no room for confusion.

2) Judicially judges do not have the power to override executive decisions unless they are unconstitutional.

3) You can't argue about Islam justice using precedents set by secular western courts.

Also, you have to understand that there is difference between civil, criminal and constitutional aspects of law. For example, Paula Jones was suing Clinton for sexual harassment in a civil matter, and the court ruled that he does not have immunity (he was not being prosecuted in criminal matter where state is usually the prosecutor).

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In this case, people should approach parliament and change constitution of Pakistan pleading the clause is against the spirit of Islam. The current constitution is very clear here:

"248 (2) No criminal proceedings whatsoever shall be instituted or continued against the president or a governor in any court during his term of office. "

Comparison with USA is not appropriate. The president of USA has immunity for acts done as ‘official duties’ of the president not acts done in personal capacity.

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@Shamraz

Being a lawyer (and I am sure a good one) I have no doubt in my mind that your understanding of law is much better than mine. I am a bit confused and I have a very basic concept to understand the judicial matters. The bottom line is that judicial matters must follow a certain logic and justice must be seen as done. Please try to clarify these points.

1) You are right that state prosecutes a lot of cases against certain criminals who commit crimes against people at large. Rehman Malik, our interior minister who heads our State investigation agency working under him said in a public statement that he has strong evidence against Nawaz Sharif which are enough to disqualify him. Now if Mr. Malik has such evidence is it his personal property. My understanding is that this evidence is a property of the people of Pakistan against whom these crimes are allegedly committed. This statement by Rehman Malik is for me is a confessional statement for facilitating the crime by not presenting these evidence in a court of law and using these evidence may be to negotiate some benefits for their government. Why can't the court take action if such an evident act of omission confessed by a government functionary taking place.

2) President in our country is assuming immunity for his personal crimes.. money laundering at least which was proven by the presence of funds in Switzerland where there was no apparent source of income. People of Pakistan suspect this money belongs to them and has been stashed in Swiss banks by misappropriating the power which came with a public office. State of Pakistan was prosecuting these personal crimes committed by by Benazir And Zardari. These cases were withdrawn due to an already defunct piece of legislation which was declared illegal by the SC ab initio.. Court ordered a request letter written by the State of Pakistan to Swiss authorities to reopen the criminal cases against an individual who happens to be the President of Pakistan. Our government representing the State of Pakistan is defying the court order with an excuse which was publicly announced that President has immunity although this excuse was never presented before the court.

Now in this case the SC is the right body to decide if the president has immunity in these specific criminal cases.. it's not the parliament. Just like US courts decided that Clinton does not have immunity in those specific criminal charges..

Regarding the Islamic angle.. we also have Justice Ramday's remarks on record when such immunity was claimed for President Musharraf.. so it is not totally irrelevant according to our constitution... thus the argument of Faroogh Naseem.. an imminent pakistani lawyer of repute. Lex Luther in his post has inserted the link for the arguments which were presented at that time by Aitezaz Ahsan/Hamid Khan who were opposing the Presidential immunity at that time..

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Aitzaz Ahsan (yes Aitzaz Ahsan) goes step ahead and says "I dont understand why Govt is not writing letter to Swiss Courts. President has immunity under Pakistan AND INTERNATIONAL law. Swiss court will state that too"

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yazdi, 1) statements do no equal facts. Anyone can make a statement that does not make it true. Btw, give credit to Zardari/PPP govt that unlike NS, they haven't launched witch hunts against their political opponents (remember what NS was doing literally bribing judges to put BB and Zardari in jail in 1990s?).

2) Let us get few things straight. Pakistani courts do not have jurisdiction in foreign countries, and Iftikhar Chaudhry is settling personal scores with Zardari b/c he did not restore him on the day he was elected president. This is the same justice who himself took oath under military dictator, allowed same dictator to amend the constitution as he pleased, and validated his military take over.

Also, Zardari and his govt have every right not to ask foreign country to prosecute them. It would be dumb and illogical if they do, and Chaudhry is trying to delegitimize duly elected government and in process of the destructing the entire system. He is a self-centered narcissistic one man wrecking crew who will do what he wants no matter what it costs the country.

As for the SC being right body, I think artilce 248 (2) is very clear, and that applies to president. If there are allegations of criminal wrong doing than the Parliament is right forum to impeach president and remove him form the office, not courts.

Also, what Ramday said is irrelevant b/c the law is very clear. Ramday's words are not law, but article 248 (2) is.

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That I have always given PPP credit for, that they never went after the people incl. the judges that had wronged them in the past (incl. judicial murder of ZAB)

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Thanks. You have found something, somewhere good in PPP. It is still the symbol of federation, unfortunately no party can claim this. Let this party be continued as binding force between the provinces.