President Zardari has secured country’s future: Babar Awan

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Alhamdulilallah. God Bless Great Zardari, President of Pakistan. May he serve the full two terms. I am sure he will, with the continued support of people of Pakistan that had elected him President of Pakistan with over 60% of votes.

I am sure Great Zaradri will get more than 60% support at the next Presidential elections. What do you think?

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan’s Premier NEWS Agency )

**President Zardari has secured country’s future: Babar Awan **

WAH CANTT. Feb 13 (APP): By raising the slogan “Pakistan Khapay” President Asif Ali Zardari has secured the geography, ideological frontiers, federation and future of Pakistan.

Party, Tehsil Taxila, here at a hotel on Friday. Dr. Babar Awan said Pakistan Peoples Party is not a political party rather it is a family, community and thought of a vast majority of the peoples of Pakistan.

Dr. Babar Awan said Pakistan Peoples Party is a party of Martyrs and it is a binding force of the federation of Pakistan.

The Federal Minister said we have accepted the challenges for the betterment of the peoples and for the flourishment of democracy in the country. He said that Martial Law will not be imposed again and we have made arrangements for the blockage of dictatorship.

The Minister said there are some elements who, having no constituency, are talking about democracy while some elements believe in sit‑in and boycott politics are making hue and cry to destabilize the present government. These elements have experienced the defeat in by‑election held at Bonner.

Dr. Babar Awan assured the local leadership and workers of the PPP that during the next five years President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani will solve the problems of the country.

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Re: President Zardari has secured country’s future: Babar Awan

Just like how great Musharrafs TC goons had him secure the country's future for the next 2 decades.

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Indeed he did !

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Re: President Zardari has secured country’s future: Babar Awan

which is why he got so zaleeled.

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More like his own future

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Re: President Zardari has secured country’s future: Babar Awan

i guess some punjabis take 'pakistan khappay' as a punjabi expression!

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I think Zardari is better than Musharraf when it comes to the greatest threat to Pakistan today, the Taliban threat.
I disagree that Pakistan's future is "secured", because more work needs to be done to save Pakistan from the anti-Islam Taliban extremists.

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I dont know why I dont like zardari. My comments about zardari are " ey ty shakloo ei choor lagda" and "most corrupt person". May be it is bcoz of the propaganda against him.

Anyway following are somethings that are main reason for hating Zardari and make me think that Musharraf is better than Zardari.

1- Economic Point of view:- Compare the reserves, again contacting IMF, No reasonable decrease in oil prices.
Musharraf raised the reserved and Zardari ate it. Oil prices remained same when they were increasing in whole world. But Zardari Govt raised prices very rapidly. I think its fair coz the increase in prices was necessary. But why Zardari govt is not lowering its prices proportionally.

2:- Terrorism :- Attacks on Pakistan increased after Zardari govt come to power. Even India is thinking of strikes. No doubt Musharraf only "condemned" the attacks of America and took no step. But he was doing dialouges with India at equal level. Zardari is doing it as if India is superior to Pakistan.

2 of above are main reasons. Other reasons for example Issue of Chief justice etc are still not solved. Statements including "promises are not from hadeeth and Quran and can be changed according to the situation" are also very amazing.

Regards
Lord

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musharraf made reserves and zardari ate them? come on dude, use some reason, and these reserves were gone while mushy was still the president btw... both of them are idiots, the only difference is that zardari has more legitmacy than musharraf, who was self imposing.

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Wait for the next elections, and replace him. In the meantime can Tabla Group stop dancing so elected government can do something?

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Lord, India is jumping up and down not because of PPP government (or lack of Musharraf) but because of some Pakistani people massacring common Indians in India itself.

Regarding CJ, One can not support a dictator (Musharraf) and his biggest opponent (CJ) at the same time.
If you think that re-installing Iftikhar Chaudhry makes Zardari bad then you need to first condemn Musharraf for initiating Chaudhry's dismissal.

Anyway, like I said earlier, I like Zardari's clear policy towards Taliban as compared to Musharraf's double dealings with them. I am not very fond of him in other aspects.
Musharraf created two categories of Taliban: the foreign Taliban (Arabs, Afghans, etc) and Pakistani Taliban. He went only after foreigners and allowed free growth of Pakistani Talibans.
Pakistan is in trouble due to such ill-conceived, short-sighted policies of ISI and army.

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For Lord. I voted for Nawaz Sharif and I have a bit of feeling of guilt for it.

About your comments on Zardari:

*I dont know why I dont like zardari. My comments about zardari are " ey ty shakloo ei choor lagda" and "most corrupt person". May be it is bcoz of the propaganda against him. *

well, if he were corrupt he should have been convicted. He was kept in jail for 8 years and didn't get convicted. So, the establishment, Nawaz Govt, and the army are all equally guilty... or Zardari is too shrewd to be able to get away with all govt machinery trying to convict him?

1- Economic Point of view:- Compare the reserves, again contacting IMF, No reasonable decrease in oil prices.
Musharraf raised the reserved and Zardari ate it. Oil prices remained same when they were increasing in whole world. But Zardari Govt raised prices very rapidly. I think its fair coz the increase in prices was necessary. But why Zardari govt is not lowering its prices proportionally.

I agree with this. Except that some of what happened during Mushi time was a bubble which burst during his last days. Add global economic meltdown to it. Add non availability of energy for industries and you've got the current financial situation. If Mushi had done half of what he promised in his first speech when he came into power, he would have been a hero. He had all support from Army, people and a lot of political parties.

2:- Terrorism :- Attacks on Pakistan increased after Zardari govt come to power. Even India is thinking of strikes. No doubt Musharraf only "condemned" the attacks of America and took no step. But he was doing dialouges with India at equal level. Zardari is doing it as if India is superior to Pakistan.

Believe it or not, India IS superior to Pakistan. I admire how Zardari has handled the situation. although I never liked him as a person. Rememer, Kargil was Mushi's idea and he would've done something stupid again.

Mushi's idea of militarily solving the 'Jihadi' issue was a stupid one too. Remember Lal Masjid? If my sister is killed in the operation or similar operations in north, there's no one stopping me from taking revenge. It was a political issue turned into a military one by Mushi... taking lead from Bushi probably.

2 of above are main reasons. Other reasons for example Issue of Chief justice etc are still not solved. Statements including "promises are not from hadeeth and Quran and can be changed according to the situation" are also very amazing.

Chief Justice is a complex issue. The military doesn't want him back since he was threatening to indulge in the 'missing persons' case. He threatened to summon DG of IB to court for this matter. Zardari wouldn't want him back because of the NRO.

And he (thankfully) never claimed to be a good muslim!

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I totally disagree with it. Our politicians are the only reason for this situation. Musharraf also got equal share to lead pakistan to this situation. BUT the only good thing in Pakistani Govt is ISI and Pakistan Army. Raw and Mosaad will digest u if u dont have these 2 institutions and every sensible Pakistani knows it. You can see the reaction of Pakistani Govt to indian call that they agreed to send their ISI cheif without thinking. As I told u that Musharraf is not my hero at all.He said "yes sir" to america but never to India. Current so called elective govt is behaving as if we are a country with military power equal to bangladesh or srilanka.

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Believe it or not, India IS superior to Pakistan
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If superiority means population then I agree. If superiority means more technology I agree. I agree that they are at higher level to us in many fields. But here I was talking about military power. WHY A NUCLEAR POWER SHOULD FEAR. Especially when Pakistan is right. The problem is that why we always take a defensive stance as if every blast done in the world is planned in Pakistan. Indians easily blammed Pakistan without any research and Pakistanis accepted to send their ISI chief to India. Is this a stance of a democratic Govt of a FIRST ISLAMIC NUCLEAR POWRE??? Where is our self respect?

I agree that there are terrorist hiding in Pakistan. But why dont the world understands it that we are honest in arresting them or killing them. It is only because our Govt dont have enough capability to show it to world. Our agencies and army are doing its best and Politicians are doing worst.

No one in the world is honest to solve Kashmir or Palestine issue. ok lets take a break from Palestine issue coz most of you might think that our concern is only Kashmir issue. Its right coz Palestine is closer to arabs than to us.
The why we never talked about Kashmir now. We are trying to withdraw. Why the world forgot the issue of Kashmir. Why everyone is against terrorists. Where are "our priorities". We only working on "others priority". We are at a stage where even WE dont know that what is good for us and what is bad for us. We blame army and ISI. WHY??? It is just influence of propaganda. Why we never blamed these institutions when they were fighting against Russia? Why we were with talibans some years back?
Most of the Pakistanis are thinking nothing but the influence of propaganda is speaking in their mouth.

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We should have admitted that the attacks were planned in Pakistan Loooooong time ago. Everybody knew they came from Pakistan. We could claim that they did come from pakistan but not under pakistan's authority. Everybody is laughing at us because we continuously 'denied'

Pakistan was not right in this issue. You agree that there are terrorists hiding in Pakistan, why deny it then?

We have been lying regarding Kashmir issue. For the past 3 decades we have been saying that we support the kashmiris 'morally'. We lied. Everybody knows that we have been supporting them more then 'morally'. This is again an example of Pakistan military solving a political issue militarily. This is no solution.

I believe that and most of you would disagree, Kashmir issue has been 'created' by the Pakistan army to keep itself in power in Pakistan. There has been absolutely no return to all the investments we have made in our military, denying our children education and our mothers health care.

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I think Babar forgot to add

.... and my future as the next undeserving Chief Justice of Pakistan!

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Ok. For a moment I accept that terrorists were hiding in Pakistan. So why u dont talk about the terrorist activities in Pakistan? dont u think that Indian is involved in these attacks?
You say Kashmir is issue created by pakistan army and we support more than moral support. If someone captures ur town, will u stay quiet? I say that we should support them fully with any thing we got.
Terrorism is not only the problem of Pakistan. So why only Pakistan is facing it and all other countries keep blamming Pakistan for nothing.
I am sure that our foreign policiy is made by people like you :).

Regards
Lord

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We should have admitted that the attacks were planned in Pakistan Loooooong time ago. Everybody knew they came from Pakistan. We could claim that they did come from pakistan but not under pakistan's authority. Everybody is laughing at us because we continuously 'denied'

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Well only you & our Pathetic Gov know that they came from Pakistan , Anyone who even have a little Common sense Will be able to figure out the reason & the Place of Attack.

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Pakistan was not right in this issue. You agree that there are terrorists hiding in Pakistan, why deny it then?
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Ok name a Single country who dont have terrorists hiding in it, ONLY A SINGLE ONE.

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We have been lying regarding Kashmir issue. For the past 3 decades we have been saying that we support the kashmiris 'morally'. We lied. Everybody knows that we have been supporting them more then 'morally'. This is again an example of Pakistan military solving a political issue militarily. This is no solution.

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So you want to say that Kashmir issue can be solved by dialogs ??, Kid go Read History books or something, We have been trying to Solve kashmir Issue by Dialogues from over 60 years, Some people dont know when to trust an enemy & when to not.
you are Right now suggesting that we should involve ourself in Dialogue with a Country who only thought of Destruction of Pakistan , who never believed in the Existence of Pakistan.
When ever there are people Like you in this country , This country cannot Progress.

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I believe that and most of you would disagree, Kashmir issue has been 'created' by the Pakistan army to keep itself in power in Pakistan. There has been absolutely no return to all the investments we have made in our military, denying our children education and our mothers health care.
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Either you have no Brain or you are not using it .
Kid, You should at least honor Pakistan Army For Protecting you , they always Stayed in front & took the Bullet coming towards you. They gave their own lives to save yours, & this is what you give them in return?, It is very easy to talk but when you are it is very easy to run , but they dont run, bcoz they know if they do that you will be the next to get killed. you have never been in this situation, Pakistan Army have gave countless live to Protect ours.
So at least pay a little Respect to them

THAT COUNTRY CAN NEVER PROGRESS WHO DONT TRUST ITS DEFENDERS.

TakeCare
Champ

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I said Pak is in trouble due to policies of ISI and army supporting Taliban.
Lord says: "I totally disagree with it.".

WHY? Do you think this policy turned out to be good for Pak?

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I said Pak is in trouble due to policies of ISI and army supporting Taliban.
Lord says: "I totally disagree with it.".

WHY? Do you think this policy turned out to be good for Pak?
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Pakistan is in Trouble, not bcoz of ISI & Army, but bcoz of its people who have mentality like you , only thing you can do best it to blame anyone, just Tell me what have you did for this country , to claim a Right , to speak against its defenders. ?
We are the ones who have chooses our Current Pathetic Leadership, who dont even know what economy is & how to maintain it & yet we blame Army. UNBELIEVABLE .

What did Army did to Deserve this.
Was their Giving lives for this country that bad ?
Was Their Sacrifices that Small?
Was Their Sense of Duty Was Wrong.
Were There Not Protecting you?
Havent they not fought for you.
Havent they not given given lives for you?

JUST TELL ONE THING THEY DID that HURT this country ??
They only thing They did was to Punish Our Corrupt polititions 7 threw them away, The Best Economic Boom was Given to us by PAK ARMY.

OPEN YOUR EYES & SEE THE REALITY.

TakeCare
Champ

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GoldenAsif bhaijan. Aap kai moo mai ghee shakar. But do you agree with what Dr. Babar Awan said?

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