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Zia was not only responsible. Whole judiciary, pimps of Zia-ul-Haq the present PML(N) and their cronies, JI, media and list goes on…I will be the last person to blame America. Pakis were responsible for killing their own heroes and suffered a lot, will continue to suffer in future. Killing of Zia-ul-Haq is another story.
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I have to agree with SID. Pakistanis are a unique breed when it comes to their own country.
Look at Hussain Haqqani and how he collaborates with Christine Fair on sanctioning and shaming Pakistan. I won’t even get into how haqqani called Pakistan a rundi by recommending that you give them very little after your opening bid like how you would get stuff at the market.
Compare this to Vali Nasr and other iranians who try to project a humane image of Iran when you can’t get elected in Iran w/o mullah approval and the IRGC / basiji / abc’s of shiite militias are involved in sunni massacres in Iraq, syria and destabilizing yemen, afghanistan and lebanon covertly for some time.
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Just remember , how our 12 pass staged a drama against Haqqani for these 33 billion $ and other ghost money from CIA
This was US which saved Haqqani from these monsters so he is naturally on US-side
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Are you suggesting that he is an ISI double agent as the memogate pretty much confirms his public views about Pakistan.
Make up your mind ! 
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**In those days
**Whole truth once spoken by our foreign minister when he was in opposition , proved correct by now
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**********Pakistan PunchSeptember 27, 2017 ·
(the date is link to the speech)
[RIGHT]جاننا چاہتے ہو کہ سول سپریمیسی کیوں ضروری ہو چکی ۔۔
یہ ویڈیو 70 سالہ تاریخ کی بہترین مثال ہے ۔
اور عقل والوں کے لیے اس میں عبرت اور نشانیاں ہیں۔۔[/RIGHT]
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Remembering
They were so fool in 1971
till they surrender , they continued foolish acts
No change , continued doing same now
In federation , Baluchistan & Punjab
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Meray murghey kee eik hee taang,
4 jamata pass zardari koh sajda baqee sub nalaik.
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Can someone here please explain that despite 16 years of occupation in afghanistan and failing to win the war how did ISIS take hold in Afghanistan. Deliberate act by the occupying forces or incompetence. Either way looks as bad and pathetic as their joke of a leader.
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Bhutto, the evil-genius, who masterminded breakup of Pakistan by joining hands with West Pakistani civil military establishment. His daddy Ayub Khan handpicked him from nowhere and made him a Cabinet minister in 1958. A few years later in 1966 he fell in love with democracy and established Pakistan People’s Party in 1967. In 1970 elections he won 81 seats compared to 160 seats of Sheikh Mujib, yet instead of sitting in the opposition he forced Mujib to form a coalition government with PPP. He did not let the assembly to convene in Dhaka and conspired with the rogue military elements and as a stooge of Yahya Khan, he legalised the infamous military operation, Operation Searchlight in East Pakistan. Yahya Khan sent him to the UNO General Assembly meeting on 15 December 1971 and this is an undeniable proof that he was on the military side against democracy. After the fall of Dhaka on 16 December, the military in a soft coup removed Yahya and planted its stooge Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as the President and Chief Martial Law Administrator, what a joke!
Not just that, but this so called champion of democracy kicked out democracy from Balochistan and NWFP because he did not agree with their policies.
Zulfikar Ali Bhutto is a dirty legacy of the Traitor of Pakistan, Gen. Ayub Khan who’s responsible for the dismemberment of Pakistan along with others in 1971. And this crime is bigger than any good works that he ever did as the President or Prime Minister of Pakistan.
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Indians allied with Russia and Russia helped India in 1971 to dismember Pakistan. Pakistan’s military licked the boots of is American master yet America gave a tight slap on Ayub Khan’s face in the 1965 war by putting an arms embargo and in 1971 America didn’t come to help Pakistan Army.
In 1980s, Pakistan Army once again licked the feet of Americans but when Soviet Union’s defeat was eminent, Americans once again kicked the butts of Pakistan Army and the country as well. In 2001, Pakistan Army decided to make America its Qibla but in return it saw humiliation in Abbotabad Operation, Salala Attack and another series of insults…
The American aid, coalition support fund mainly goes to the army, but army is using its full fledged propaganda machine portraying that Trump is insulting the whole Pakistani people. Not really! It was always our great army which decided to lick the feet of Americans under Ayub, Zia and Musharraf, it was never a civilian government that sold the honour of this country for dollars. Clean this mess yourselves the way you have created it.
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Let me try. ISIS is the brainchild of American intelligence community. Nobody had heard of ISIS before 2012. Its top leadership was initially in US detention and were released in exchange for joining ISIS. ISIS goes only after groups who are well known to be fighting occupation forces such as Saddam loyalists, Baath party, AQ, Hezbollah, and more recently Afghan Taliban and Hamas. Russian satellite imagery has shown repeatedly how US forces worked alongside ISIS in Syria, and in Der Zor region even provided air cover to ISIS. Lower level ISIS recruits join due to coercion, food and shelter. Mid level recruits get paid salaries. There are around 10,000 ISIS recruits being brought from various countries into northern Afghanistan. They will be used to destabilize former Soviet republics, China and Pakistan. Those who’ll go rogue or outlive their usefulness will be annihilated by US.
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i hear your rant against the army but please tell me how it relates to the mushrooming of ISIS under the US occupation forces in Afghanistan?
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It’s simple. Under USA, Al-Qaida chief OBL was launched in Afghanistan, later Taliban were created (before getting adopted by ISI) and now Daesh/ISIS were created to perform some new tasks. Funded militants are made everywhere by governments and their agencies, e.g RSS in India must have been launched by Indian agencies to perform some given tasks.
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If it is agreed what you are saying above, but the truth was that ZAB was not in power. Military ruler was in power. Why Yahya Khan did not ask directly to Sh Mujib to form the government after winning the 1970 elections? The matter is not so simple and blame ZAB untruthfully in a fraudulent manner distorting the blackened history of Pakistan. People of West Pakistan particularly Punjabi did not want Bengali to rule Pakistan they treated them as schedule castes since partition. QA founded this Pakistan which was by default going to be broken up. Military used ZAB, when his work was done to stabilizing the remaining Pakistan they killed him. The stupidity of your statement seems so obvious that when ZAB was nothing, military ruler listened to his advise, when he became the most powerful PM, he was killed by the same military.
By the way are you Ch Sahib who changed the nick? You are supporter of PML(N) which is actually illegitimate child of a military dictator which came directly out from his right testicles.
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I agree with you that West Pakistanis (Mohajirs, Punjabis and Pashtoons) treated Bengalis like some inferior race and their racism prevented them from accepting Bengali rule over Pakistan. And I agree with you once again that Pakistan’s military was the in charge of affairs and this military had been operating on the designs of its colonial British masters who have ‘unofficially’ banned recruitment of Bengalis in the British Indian Army because of the fear of another War of Independence (Indian Mutiny began from Bengal troops). After Pakistan was established in 1947, Punjabis and Pathans (who were incorrectly given the title of martial races by the British along with Gurkhas) made up most of the armed forces and the Pathan General Ayub Khan who naturally hated and despised Bengalis continued with this discrimination from 1951 to 1969 until Yahya Khan (who was not Pathan) took over who made reforms in the army and in the administration by permitting further recruitment of Bengalis in the army but it was all too little too late.
When Yahya took over, Ayub had already brought this country to the breaking point through his discriminatory and oppressive rule which had left East Pakistan poorer than ever (East Pakistanis were 40% poorer than West Pakistanis). His propagandists celebrated a decade of development which was actually the decade of darkness and oppression.
Bhutto is partner in crime because like Nawaz Sharif he was born in the house of an oppressor, usurper and an evil military dictator who was actually a traitor of Pakistan and deserved to be hanged in public. 8 years after enjoying privileges of a Cabinet minister under military regime, Bhutto realised it was time to bite like a snake on the back of his benefactor Ayub Khan. Over night he became democratic after Tashkent declaration when Pakistanis had started spitting on Ayub Khan for lying to the nation over the 1965 war. Now Bhutto knew that clinging to his daddy Ayub wouldn’t benefit him anymore.
Following are the facts which prove that Bhutto remained a stooge of military despite his anti-Ayub campaign in 1969. I am sure the way Pakistan Army wanted to get rid of their father, Gen. Zia-ul-Haq and with an inside job his aircraft was blown up, thanks to the CIA-GHQ affair (Gen. Mirza Aslam Beig chose a different aircraft for his departure from Bahawalpur), Ayub was also forced to leave through Bhutto. And I bet Bhutto’s agitation in 1969 was supported by the GHQ like Imran Khan, Tahirul Qadri, and Khadim Hussain Rizvi run their circus to destabilise the civilian government. Military supported their ladla Z A Bhutto because Sheikh Mujib was not a sell out.
After shocking results of 1970 elections, Yahya Khan first visited East Pakistan and then he visited Larkana where he stayed at Bhutto’s residence for 3 days. This 3 day-picnic at Bhutto’s residence was a proof something happened there. National Assembly was to convene in Dhaka but Bhutto told the PPP MNAs that their legs would be broken if they tried to go to Dhaka. In that way Bhutto sabotaged the democratic process because the 6 Points were always negotiable as Mujib said, but Bhutto didn’t want a democratic solution or compromise because he was a dirty stooge of Pakistan’s racist military.
When Operation Searchlight began Bhutto was in Dhaka, he said ‘Pakistan has been saved (by this army action)’. Awami League’s MNAs were disqualified by the military government and reelection was held in East Pakistan which was boycotted by Awami League but fascist PPP and criminal Jamat-e-Islami contested and stole Awami League’s seats. Would you call it Bhutto’s championing democracy?
And as I said Bhutto was sent to the UNO General Assembly meeting on 15 December 1971 by Yahya. Doesn’t it prove that Bhutto was a stooge of military? Why on earth, in what capacity Bhutto was sent to the UNO when he was the chief of a political party and was not holding a government position?
Not just that but in a soft military coup, Yahya was removed and on 20 December 1971, Pakistan’s traitor army installed this evil man, Z A Bhutto as the President and Martial Law Administrator.
I do not differ once again when you said Bhutto was hanged when he became too powerful. It’s like Nawaz Sharif was kicked out again and again when he attempted to be independent of his motherly institution, Pakistan Army.
And finally, no, I’m not any Choudhary.
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Here is an article from NYtime where indian-origin writer explains how Trump is extra-ordinarily similar to BAAL THAKRAY, the hindu extremist leader of India.
Now it does explain why indian extremists love trump, but ofcourse makes it more puzzling why some Pakistani-americans love him so much
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Pakistan says US owes one billion dollars to Pakistan, and in response to American action Pakistan hasn’t blocked NATO supply. The Chhoru (چھوڑو) of PAF (Sohail Aman) said American drones would be downed if they entered Pakistani airspace… jokes, right?
غلامی کرنی ہے تو ٹھیک سے کرو، ڈرامے نہ کرو۔
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**CIA has taken much effect from us
**Now their chief also like to come on media
**CIA **
کی غلامی کاسلسلہ ایوب خان نےجب برگیڈئیرتھا ایک فوڈ پروگرام میں امریکہ جانےسےشروع کیا اسکے بعد جرنیلوں نےاسےوراثت سمجھ لیا یہ سلسلہ مشرف کیانی پاشا دور تک عروج پر رہا مگرمشرف دور سے لالچ اور مقامی ضرورت سے دوعملی اور چالاکی کی کوششیں ہوئیں جو اب بےعزتی ، ملامت اور شرمندگی بن گئی ہیں-
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امریکی خفیہ ایجنسی سی آئی اے کے سربراہ بھی ٹرمپ کی زبان بولنے لگے](https://urdu.arynews.tv/american-cia-head-criticize-pakistan-donald-trump/)امریکی خفیہ ایجنسی سی آئی اے کے سربراہ مائیک پومپیو نے کہا ہے کہ پاکستان ان دہشت گردوں کو پناہ فراہم کر رہا ہے جو امریکا اور دنیا بھر کے امن کے لیے خطرہ ہیں.
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Self hatred and desperately wanting to be “the good ones.”
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BINGO!
