President Musharraf address to women

I AM writing this to state that your report of President Pervez Musharraf’s meeting with Pakistani women in New York on Sept. 17 ignored the substance of the president’s presentation and his very positive interaction with the majority of the audience and focused only on a minute or two of the entire event. I was the keynote speaker at this meeting and witnessed the proceedings from beginning to end.

There was no “pandemonium”, as claimed in the report. At the very outset of his presentation, the president clarified that the remark quoted by The Washington Post and made the subject of intense criticism by those opposed to him did not represent his own thinking. He was citing a comment he had heard in Islamabad. The president’s clarification was accepted by the vast majority of persons in the room.

The president addressed the issues of violence against women and gender inequality and the measures taken by him and his government to deal with them. He said that Pakistanis should feel ashamed of the acts of violence that were being perpetrated against women in their society. Repeatedly, the president affirmed his support for women and his pledge that he would stand by those women who had been wronged. He referred to the cases of Mukhtaran Mai and Dr Shazia Khalid and said that he had done a lot to help them.

He said that it was Dr Shazia Khalid’s own wish to leave Pakistan and go to England. He was disappointed to know that she was now alleging that she had been forced to leave the country and was criticizing the government for mistreating her. The president said that Dr Shazia Khalid was free to return to Pakistan and that full protection would be given to her if she returned.

Pointing out that the issue of violence against women was a global phenomenon, the president said he did not like the singling out of Pakistan in this context. “You can single out Pakistan in Pakistan but not in other countries,” he said. He said that rape victims from one country were not taken to another — for instance, rape victims from Canada were not taken to China — to protest against violence against women in a particular country. The problems of Pakistani women had to be resolved within Pakistan, not in New York.

The president acknowledged that there were deficiencies in the law-enforcement agencies and the judicial system because of the patriarchal, feudal and tribal mindset of those who were in charge of implementing laws.

The president said that the NGOs that were engaged in criticizing him and his government with regard to women’s issues should work with the government to find solutions to the serious problems facing women in Pakistan. He also said that while it was necessary to give assistance to particular victims of violence, it was very important to go beyond the idea of helping a few women and find the underlying causes of violence against women so that the larger problem could be addressed.

At the end of his presentation, three-fourths of the people in the room stood up and applauded. The remaining one-fourth were persons who were opposed to him for personal or political reasons. Their venom toward the president became manifest in the question and answer part of the meeting.

The majority of the questions put to the president related to concerns of Pakistanis living in the US about their situation in that country or about matters such as the education of women in Pakistan. A few questions were asked with visible hostility. The last question was more a political diatribe than a genuine query. In a voice filled with anger the questioner told the president that since he had “categorically denied” making the statement attributed to him by The Washington Post, he should make a clarification to the world press. She went on to express her disappointment at the way he was treating human rights activists who were protesting against violence toward women.

The president responded to the deliberately provocative comment by saying that the many journalists who were present had already heard his clarification. He expressed his disappointment at the questioner and others like her who were engaging in what he said was unpatriotic behaviour. He said that he would always support the cause of women but he would oppose those who were using women’s cause to further their own agendas that were harmful to the country.

At the end of the Q & A session, again the vast majority of the people stood up and gave the president a resounding round of applause.

DR. RIFFAT HASSAN
Professor of Humanities,
University of Louisville,
Louisville, Kentucky, US

http://dawn.com/2005/09/23/letted.htm#1

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He’s full of BS as usual, he can’t ‘clarify’ a comment that was quoted verbatim.

As for this:
He said that rape victims from one country were not taken to another — for instance, rape victims from Canada were not taken to China — to protest against violence against women in a particular country. The problems of Pakistani women had to be resolved within Pakistan, not in New York.

The heads of civilized countries don’t treat rape victims with the disdain he has, they don’t put them on the ECL, other countries don’t have Hudood laws,etc, they don’t protect rapists simply because they are in the Army(Dr.Shazia)

And this comment a joke:
The president said that the NGOs that were engaged in criticizing him and his government with regard to women’s issues should work with the government to find solutions to the serious problems facing women in Pakistan.

As if they haven’t approached the govt to help, to change laws, to take the issue more seriously, etc. :rolleyes:

BS as usual.

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http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/india/document.do?id=4A7D200CBA1014FF802569A6006043C0

Comments on Indian government’s response to the allegations of rape in Shopian, Jammu and Kashmir

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Namaste & Salaam!

Why is the above post by Mr.Reza Palavi about India with no comments of his own, relevant to a thread about gen.Musharaf's comments and later denial fo the same?

I hope the gentleman realizes what's at issue here is not a comparison of treatment of rape victims in various countries, but rather, the inappropriateness of gen.Musharaf's remarks and actions subsequent to that.

Bye

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Mukhtaran mai went to spain and india and captain hammad who was accused of raping Dr shazia said that he is ready for DNA test etc.The point the president wanted to raise was that why cant these NGOs solve this issue here.No Rape victim came from India to tell her ordeal.

The point is these Ngos are supported by the anti pakistan lobby.The president represents a country on foreign land criticisng him is like criticising the whole country.one can be anti governmnet but anti national elements should not be tolerated.

They dont really want to help the poor victims they just want projection.

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The problem when some people want to help in Pak, they come across those who don’t want things to change, who prefer the status quo as they benefit from it.
They come across govt supporters who don’t want any noise made about the failings of the govt.

These good people then get labelled as ‘foreign agents’, traitors, etc. This despite the fact that they have done much more good in their lives then these govt supporters, and ‘jirgas’ ever will.

These are often the only people women can turn to for help, as the govt doesn’t help. By these NGO’s raising attention to the problem, by bringing a spotlight on it, is how pressure comes for these crimes to be stopped.

Start blaming the evil criminals and corrupt adrminstration officials rather than lambasting the victims and those who help them.

A pertinent article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4223436.stm

Pakistan’s minister for women’s affairs, Nilofer Bakhtiar, says the fight for women’s rights is making progress.
“We have a strong policy and programme here which the government is putting across very successfully to combat violence against women,” she told the BBC.

But in reality little has been done about removing procedural difficulties - which means that rape victims must either rely on the media or non-governmental organisations to secure justice.

There is no institutional infrastructure in Pakistan to help rape victims, no trauma centres or legal aid bodies.

Rape in Pakistan became a high-profile crime** after** one of the victims, Mukhtar Mai, decided to speak out.

Ms Mai was gang raped allegedly on the orders of a tribal council as punishment for a sexual crime attributed to her brother.

Her case is still pending in the courts but her courage has inspired many rape victims to go public with their stories. So far the government’s response, observers say, has been limited to isolated action in certain cases.

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I think pakis on this forum prefer the likes of benazir or nawaz sharif..

jeez man.. there is one guy who is tryin is best to get the country out of the fukin messs.. bt no.. there always have to be sum complainers.. get ova it.. or leave.. not wanted ight.. most majority like wat he is doinn... hes a human being as wll.. hes not perfect.. he can only be at one place at a time..

the country doesnt change over night.. takes time.... before complinin about wat the ppl are doin.. how about look at wat u doin.. ur soo protective of ur sisters.. bt go around perveting other ppls chicks.. and den ur hormones go high and up fukin em..

get ova it assholes.. i support this mushy dude..

open up.. or leave..

allah hafiz

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You do realize he has been in power more than BB, and NS combined! Is that ‘overnight’? No doubt if Mush is still in charge in 2010, his supporters will say ‘things don’t happen overnight’ :rolleyes:

He is not different to BB or NS,just power hungry. We have seen him for many years now, he is no different. Although US/western press love him more than past leaders(because he is their chamcha).

As for ‘other chicks’, i don’t know about your personal life, but no one here is raping them, or forcefully insulting rape VICTIMS, like he has with his recent statements.