have desies started doing these? what r some conditions men can put in to protect themselves here in US.. since the laws here r unfairly tilted. i for one will be royally ticked if a girl after 2 months of marriage walked away with half of my assets. what can one do to protect against gold-diggers.
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anyways..i think the prenup is a great idea..most girls probably marry cuz they see how fat the guy's wallet is..so this is gonna be a good litmus test of how much the girl values money...cuz if she backs off after hearing abt prenup..ull kn ow what the reason is..
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" we want pre-nup we want pre-nup"
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Although its a good idea, they dont hold up in court a good part of the time, depending on how determined the "other half" is. Time is always a factor though - I mean a typical judge wont give half the man's assets to the gal after a short marriage. Different story if its a long marriage or if there are kids involved. The laws arent really ALL that unfair....I mean if a couple decides that the wife should be a home-maker then she of course cannot develop a career or the ability to generate an income - which makes her the legal dependent of the husband.
Better to know really well what you're getting yourself into in the first place. Especially in arranged marriages, I think its a great idea to suggest a pre-nup - seeing what kind of reaction you get is a good indicator. But think about it - a Desi guy living in USA arranges a rishta from Pak. The gal marries him and it doesnt work.....from the gals perspective, she's now "used" goods and is going to have a tough time finding herself a mate AND she's also "over here" now, possibly alone and unable to generate an income sufficient enough to earn a living for herself. A judge in that case may dissolve the marriage but sorry hubby, you need to help her financially until she either goes back over there or she re-marries. You have to consider all the angles yeah?
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In desi arranged marriages, the girl will always have nearly the same earning power as the man, since if the man is, say, a doctor, I'm sure the girl will also be a professional. Their wealth will also be similar, and any new property they buy will probably be financed using both their earnings. So a pre-nup is really not needed, unless the marriage is between two financially unequal parties.
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It's a necessity in this day and age.
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^ true, totally agree with u Fret
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WHen income is equal or nearly equal, theres no prob bob....its kind of a no-brainer to split the wealth and possessions. But when you have a situation like I described before, my previous advice holds. Whether or not theres some kind of "pre-nup", the judge will always put more weight on circumstance than on the pre-nup.
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I have yet to see a desi arranged marriage between a filthy rich man and a poor girl.
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Prenup its something you gotta have
if you dont, she's going to leave with half.
Is that how the golddigger lines go?
Anyway, I think they're unromantic, but necessary if you're earning a crapload of money. Living in an unromantic world, I don't think its that much of a shocker.
But here's the catch. If you want to draw up a prenup, fine enough. But you had better support your wife to have her own career, so that if anything does happen, you don't leave the woman hanging. A prenup doesn't make much sense with the typical desi husband who pushes his wife to stay at home and not have an earning source.
And believe you me, if you dump a woman in her 30's, 40's, 50's, etc, and she doesnt have any work experience, it will be TOUGH for her to get on her own feet without a man's support. Like Mamaof3 says, in our society where divorced women are not appealing to rishtaa hunters, I find that highly discourteous on the part of a husband. Also depends on the reason of the divorce. Too many factors to count in. Just make sure your wife has her own income source in the event you decide to do a prenup. That way you wont be responsible for making a woman poor and putting her in a financially hard situation the day you get tired of the lovemaking.
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mamaof3, did u really mean to say that a prenup wont hold in court...??? i thought that was the point of getting one. as far as marital assets being divided after a divorce you are correct time is a factor but the laws favor women.... big time. i got a coworker who is paying his wife's educational debt after a year of marriage. till this day he hasnt figured out the reason why his wife decided to packup and leave. turns out she got a sweet deal at the end. she even got a portion of his retirement funds.
i think at the end of the day one would like to do the right thing... like if a couple was to split after 10 yrs of marriage then the assets oughta be divided fifty fifty. then again is 10 yrs a lot.. not enuff? one has to be careful in the scenerio u describe where one spouse choses to stay at home or is incapable to earn as much as the other... the judges look at it as a case of "maintaining" lifestyles for both. men endup getting short end of the stick here in US... there are countless examples of it.
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I wouldn't marry a guy who wanted a prenup. And no, I'm not a gold digger.
Personally, I think in our culture it's the girls who need the prenup to safeguard their rights.
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I like solaroceans response better n' mine.
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If a woman marries you for money, she will have it one way or the other.
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i.e. poisoning your food (alot easier than a prenup) or driving you crazy enough to cause an accident
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How would you factor in ‘mehr’ if you get a prenup?
I personally would be offended if anybody wanted me to sign it. If God forbid I end up getting divorced, I wouldn’t want anything from the guy. Lanat on his money and assets. ![]()
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In US, the judge will look at the prenup but will also consider heavily all of the circumstances surrounding the marriage, the length of the marriage, the impact of divorce etc etc. Thats the reason that many pre-nups fail to hold up in court. Ie., the guy who was married for only one year and now has to pay for the ex-wife's education....well the judge is going to look at the gal - if she's "divorced" she'll be less able to find herself another spouse, she hasnt yet completed her education and so cannot earn a decent living. If she completes her education - at the expense of the ex-hubby - she'll be much less liable to become a welfare burden. If you want a pre-nup, consider each and every possibility and make it like a flawless flow-chart with if-then-else which encompasses every possible situation. Thats the only way you can have a small chance of having it hold .... but even then, circumstance weighs as heavily as the pre-nup.
as far as poisoning the food etc thats what happens over "there" in Desi-land with the "kitchen accidents" yeah?
as always, my best advice is to KNOW WELL what you're getting yourself into! Know well the expectations, desires, wants and needs of a prospective spouse and make sure you're both mature enough that all of these things arent still in that ever-changing emergent state.
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You took the words out of my mouth.
I know that this may be a decision made by the heart and not the mind, but I guess somewhere along the line you end up living by your principles.
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I think prenups might as well include some sort of restrictions on ppl who marry for green cards etc. You will have to give up your green card obtained thru a foreign national spouse if you get a divorce
I’ld love to see freshies jumping up and down cos of that. Hopefully that should minimise marraiges and subsequent divorces for the sake of getting foreign nationalities.
I have seen both men and women drain out their ex’s after a divorce. I agree with Mehnaz, if the man or woman isn;t good enough for you then what good is their money (or green card :p)