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Technically, he might be be social liberal neocon.
I think that he might fit in the canadian conservatives but as far as the US, there are so many of his kind (desi, gora etc) that would have been republican if the GOP was such a religious nutcracker.
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Issay kehtay hain tanqeed barari tanqeed.
You would be lambasting them if they had issued a detailed statement. The ambassador met them and bajwa gave them a statement regarding army as it should be.
You criticize PML-n for its flaws but won’t do the same to bhutto govt in the past or the current bb zardari iterations from nineties onward. How are you different from altaf’s anti-Pakistan tirade that becomes pro-Pakistan once he gets bhatta and seat in govt?
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Oh yes how did I forget that and also anti Pak cricket team. have I forgotten anything else? 
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not a huge UK fan either but lets keep that topic for some other day 
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2 quick points.
1 thing our governments have been terrible at (apart from foreign affairs) is to spread awareness of what exactly we get in the form of ‘aid’ that is so widely used as a threatening weapon every now and then. The reason why our govts are terrible is because the threatening weapon isnt the aid, but the info that the americans have on Sharifs and Bhuttos and Zardaris, and how they have been using that information as blackmailing tool to get these clowns to do America’s bidding in Pakistan. The amount of aid Pakistan receives from US is practically nil. The coalition support fund, which is actually payment for services rendered to help the forces in Afghanistan has been paid fractionally, which means that Pakistan has actually paid out of its pocket to assist America’s failed war in Afghanistan.
2nd point…the terrorists that are fished out of holes in Pakistan’s soil usually have spent years in the past on America’s payroll.
So long as we have foreign ministers like NAwaz Sharif, Hussain Haqqani and the likes, we will continue to suffer from bad press.
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Half of Afghanistan is under Taliban control, but, in the end they blame Haqqani network and Pakistan.
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US claims that the haqqani and afghan taliban’s top leadership is hiding in quetta and peshawar under ISI protection. this top taliban leadership plans in these safe pakistani havens and tier2/3 leadership implement it in Afghanistan. hard to dismantle afghan Taliban in Afghanistan when the leadership is intact in Pakistan. Rudderless organizations like Afghan taliban can be destroyed easily if the top leadership is eliminated. where was mullah omar hiding for years? karachi. where was mullah mansour hiding? Quetta. both died on pakistani soil carrying pakikstani passports.
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well if that is the case, what kind of baigharat nation we are. what kind of cheap nation we are who keep on selecting leaders both politically and militarily who are American agents? is it america mistake? since we as a nation are neither baighart nocheappa, so i politely refuse to accept your notion.
2nd, if American aid is so insignificant, why cant we say NO to it, especially if as per your claim, we are spending money from our opwn pocket. we shd immedinately say NO to the US and make a case in public. but our army gets panicked whenever USA threatens to shut down the aid. our army convoy will immediately go to Pentagon in DC for “negotiations”. The fact of the matter is that Pak army always gets full control of aid no matter how it arrives and uses it for whatever purposes it wants to use it. it has been the case for last 50 years. thx
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Yet killing them did not eliminate Taliban, over time they have gained more areas. It’s laughable to claim that any armed faction will surrender a large area under their control of half a dozen of their men are killed.
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American nuisance value is not in the dollars they provide but the clout they have in international community. I agree that there is little economic assistance of any value at present.
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well, i don’t know if they are half a dozen and 2 dozen but that is the logic. top leadership means a lot. After osama, AQ is weak.
one of the main reasons General David Petraeus was able to get the victory or at least stability in Iraq was because he made it impossible for terrorists (or insurgents) leadership to survive. taliban are gaining more ground because USA/Nato pulled the majority of its troops in last few years. anyway, we can argue all day long!
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It was mainly his bribes and deals with the Sunni tribes that defeated or more banished the extremists to isolated spots in deserts of Iraq.
To make it short, America jee is making the same mistakes as in 'Nam. Nixon uncle did the same bomb them into submission in North Vietnam that American generals plan to do now. The Crux of the problem is that American generals believe that they would’ve won in 'Nam if it weren’t for the leftist hippie pussies who protested on the streets.
Look at what Mattis said on Tuesday that Americans don’t like the war but they won’t come out and protest on the streets hence 2+2 is that we can keep throwing troops and resources indefinitely until that happens.
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I have always said and will say the same again…both parties are lying. Americans who want to blame everything on Pakistan to save their face and Pakistan who will simply refuse to accept anything and the reality is somewhere in between. In my opinion, probably 60% pak mistake and 40% USA. plus no matter what we say, we are taking a significant amount of aid which makes our case even more weaker. if USA aid is peanuts as we claim, pls don’t take it. have some self-respect. dont be a beggar. stay away from the war and don’t take the money … but pls dont take the money and then create fake stories. do what Turkey did. Turkey refused to lend their airports to the USA in afghan/iraq wars.
plus we are not even good at what we do.. at least ddon’tlet osama kill one mile from Kaool Academy… how bad was that. what a slap on our face. save mullah omar and mullah mansoor from dying on your soil with Pakistani passports in possession for god sake. all these incidences just weaken our case that much more.
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It is telling that Trump didn’t blame Iran. Even in that mullah bahadur strike, America was tracking him from Iran where he was staying (maybe for a visit?) and smoked him when he was inside Pakistan.
I do fault Musharraf for giving the US and by example, regional players a free hand in Pakistan. You wouldn’t have had PAF shooting a drone last month in balochistan w/o what has transpired after 2001 with predators and reapers.
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CAOS statement is quite stupid and out of line. He on one end asking for trusting them and in a same moment not taking any action against Haqqani group. How in the hell do you think Americans will react on this double cross? It is not the job of 12 jamat pass to make such failed foreign policy. Let civilian takes over.
I gave you ZAB’s example. Read it again. Rest of your post is just peace of sh!t does not need any response.
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You guys are forgetting history. Pakistan controlled Taliban took over most of Afghanistan, but since the “ideology” did not really meet what US would have liked, that government never got international approval… instead the people who were hated earlier started getting support. Then 9/11 happened, Taliban offered to handover OBL to a neutral 3rd-party if evidence was provided, but that never happened either… so keep doing more, and they will ask keep doing more until your behind is so wide that a tank can reside in.
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Ask the voters who vote in these clowns like Zardaris and Sharifs and Haqqanis, as to why they are so beghairat. These crooks are provided safe havens by countries like UK, mideast, USA for their illgotten wealth, and in return, they are told to run american policies in Pakitsan. ITs no secret, and simply saying it doesnt happen doesnt make it so
The only issue army hasis that we have a large chunk of weaponry, jets, etc, which are of US make, and we need parts on a regular basis. Sanctions result in non-availability of parts, and hence, render these expensive machines useless. It will take some time for us to wean ourselves off this…Otherwise, in terms of cash, america’s contribution is not worthy of any mention anymore. Most of what we get is intheform of loans, or long term finance, which is paid back infull with heavy interest.
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You spent 8 months of your life imagining and dreaming of war & destruction of the world. You get what you dreamt of and visualized 8 months or more of your all free time. Law of attraction at work for you. Ask anybody wise if you have any around you. Hopefully, you learn a thing or two and start dreaming of more pleasant things to do in your life in future. It will benefit you, no nonsense
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dont blame him…any married man would be thinking like that!!! 
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Hehe… wese you are quite right. There is a reason why I keep counting freedom as a blessing of God 
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That Taliban government was aided and supported by Sam then. After 911, these stupid guys refused to handover OBL. Then came the bomb shell of ‘either you are with us or against us’. Mush pee in his pants and made a u-turn. Ultimately OBL was taken out by Sam from the Abottabad garrison, under protection by Pakistan army. Had Taliban handed over OBL or even Pakistan army later, perhaps Pakistan could have been saved from the disaster after disaster it is facing now.