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The government on Saturday placed the premier civil intelligence agency, the IB, and the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency (ISI) under the Interior Ministry in an effort to clip the wings of the latter.

The Cabinet Division issued a formal notification in this regard, placing the ISI and the Intelligence Bureau (IB) under the interior minister.

Till now, the ISI, the premier external counter-intelligence outfit, was working under the Defence Ministry but Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani relocated the agency by placing it under the Interior Ministry, headed by Adviser Rehman Malik.

The notification says that these two spying networks – ISI and IB – have been administratively, financially and operationally placed under the Interior Ministry.

“The relocation of the ISI is misplaced, as it would increase the role of the ISI in internal political affairs – an issue which got flaks from the political fraternity of the country since the creation of the agency,” a senior official told The News.

On its face, the ISI functions at the strategic level and other organisations are supposed to function at tactical level. “The ISI deals with external counter-intelligence and the interior ministry does not deal with such matters but the policy matters relating to internal law and order only,” said the senior official, who was stunned to hear the newsflash placing the ISI under the interior ministry.

“This seems a move with cross purposes and placing the ISI under the interior ministry would seriously undermine the national security,” Chairman Senate Foreign Relations Committee Syed Mushahid Hussain, who is also the Secretary-General PML-Q, told The News late Saturday night.

He said: “It’s a disastrous decision that instead of keeping the ISI out of politics, they have injected partisan politics into the ISI.”

When asked about the intention of the decision, Mushahid said it was a political decision for partisan political purposes and it would politicise a professional organisation like the ISI.

“On the one hand, the government has no confidence in its own intelligence abilities to investigate the murder of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto as they have gone to the United Nations on this issue but, on the other hand, they are seeking to control them and trying to use them against their political foes,” said Mushahid Hussain.

The most talked-about orders were issued at a time when the prime minister in the company of Rehman Malik was flying over the Atlantic for his first official trip to the United States.

A countrywide debate started immediately after the issuance of the notification.

“There are serious consequences of this move, both politically and administratively, as the armed forces’ personnel received the news with surprise,” said the senior official.

ZARDARI SAHAB THE NATIONAL HERO

Pakistan People’s Party Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari has claimed that the decision to place the ISI under the Interior Ministry is a step towards the civilian rule and also to save the Army from controversies and a bad name.

Talking to The News from Dubai, Asif Ali Zardari said that a strong Army with non-political command was the need of the time and “we hope that positive results will come out from this historic decision”.

He said that in future, the enemies of Pakistan would not be able to defame the ISI. “Nobody will say that this agency is not under the control of an elected government as the Interior Ministry will be responsible for responding to the allegations against the ISI.”

On the other hand, top officials of the Interior Ministry claimed that the decision to place the ISI and the IB under the Interior Division was taken with the consent of the Army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani but Director General ISPR Major General Athar Abbas said he had no information in this regard.

The decision to place the ISI and the IB under the Interior Division has raised many questions in political and diplomatic circles of Islamabad.

The most important question asked by diplomats was that why the prime minister gave his powers to the Adviser for Interior Rehman Malik.

A senior official of the Interior Ministry said that this decision was taken for better understanding between the two intelligence agencies and also to overcome some administrative difficulties. He said that maintaining law and order was their responsibility as the Interior Ministry was always answerable to the judiciary and parliament but “sometimes we feel that we have no information about certain national security issues and we cannot answer them properly in courts and parliament.”

He said that Adviser on Interior Rehman Malik will report to the prime minister and there was no question of cutting down the powers of the PM.

A top Interior Ministry official said that they were summoned by the Supreme Court in the Lal Masjid case but both interior minister and secretary interior were not in Pakistan when the operation was started in Lal Masjid last year but “we faced the music”. He said the court asked for information about the missing persons but they had no information because most of the operations against al-Qaeda and the Taliban were conducted by the ISI. The Interior Ministry official claimed that better coordination between the intelligence agencies will improve the law and order situation.

The decision to place the ISI under the Interior Division was taken when the prime minister, the information minister and the adviser on interior were not in Pakistan.

Defence experts are of the view that ISI is not responsible for internal security, this agency looks after external security and the Interior Division has nothing to do with external operations.

According to some sources, the ISI was taken into confidence before this “historic decision”.

Many analysts think that the prime minister is a symbol of an elected house and instead of empowering an elected leader, the real decision makers empowered a person who was not even elected and this decision could create more controversies and more problems for the new government.

MUSH AND ARMY GIVEN DANDA TO PPP

Short of withdrawing the controversial Cabinet Division’s notification on the relocation of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the government on Sunday took a U-turn, saying the premier intelligence outfit would continue working under the prime minister.

“The ISI will continue to perform its functions under the prime minister,” an official spokesman clarified just hours after the notification placing the ISI and the Intelligence Bureau (IB) under the interior ministry was issued.

The notification regarding the control of the ISI is being “misinterpreted”, said the official spokesman whose statement was released by the information department of the government. The spokesman said: “The said notification only re-emphasises more coordination between the interior ministry and the ISI in relation to war on terror and internal security.”

It was also promised that a detailed clarification in a comprehensive notification would be provided, which had not come out till the filing of this report. Insiders told The News the key reason for issuing a clarification rather than withdrawing the notification was the fact that the government felt embarrassed.

“The government will take some time to settle down on this issue as this single move, taken just a day before the prime minister lands in Washington on his official trip, has undermined the writ of the four-month-old PPP-led government,” said a senior official.

The controversial Cabinet Division notification, however, has not yet been withdrawn in Toto or in partial while only a substantive clarification has been issued. The further comprehensive clarification, which may be forthcoming, may be cleared by the prime minister or the godfather of the present government, Asif Ali Zardari — currently in Dubai.

The armed forces personnel have reportedly reacted strongly against the amateurish move of the government. Critics say the move was aimed at destroying the functioning of the premier intelligence outfit dealing with external counter-intelligence.

PML-Q Secretary-General Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed termed it a failed attempt to capture the ISI and convert it into a partisan political instrument, saying it was yet another example of incompetent and ill-intentioned move of the PPP regime. He said there seemed to be a tussle for power between the prime minister and extra-parliamentary forces within the PPP regime. He termed it as a double coup against both the ISI and the prime minister.

Talking to reporters at the PML House on Sunday, Senator Mushahid termed this “a fundamentally flawed decision of the PPP regime on all counts ñ political, administrative and national security”.

Some, however, argue that the entire military set-up should be placed under the civilian democratic rule. Agencies add: ISPR Director-General Maj-Gen Athar Abbas has said the notification placing the ISI as a subordinate department of the interior ministry was misunderstood.

Talking to a private TV channel, he said the notification was meant to enhance the coordination between the interior ministry and the ISI. Both the ISI and the IB are polls apart from each other due to their structures, organisation and responsibilities, he said.

A press release issued by the Prime Minister Secretariat has given clarification of the notification, Abbas said, adding it was clear now that the ISI would continue to work in its previous capacity and framework as subordinate to the prime minister. He said that ISI kept close eye on external threats and provided strategic intelligence for the integrity and solidarity of Pakistan, adding all the intelligence agencies worked as separate entities.

Similarly, he said that a section of the press had also misunderstood the meetings among the chief of the Army staff, the president and the prime minister. Information Minister Sherry Rehman on Sunday said the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was already working under the civilian control.

“The ISI is already under the civilian control. It is overseen by the establishment and the Cabinet Division, which work under the prime minister,” she told a private TV channel by phone from London. Sherry said it was the government’s endeavour to provide smooth working conditions to all institutions functioning within a civilian set-up and to avoid any miscommunication.

Two emergency calls from Rawalpindi to London forced Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to change the decision of placing the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) under the Interior Ministry within a few hours, causing a serious embarrassment for him and his government.

Analysts agree that bad timing and ill-planning to establish control over the intelligence agencies have tarnished the image of Prime Minister Gilani inside and outside the country and exposed the hidden differences between different state organs responsible for national security.

Adviser for Interior Rehman Malik is still claiming that the decision to place the ISI and the IB under the Interior Division was taken with the consent of both President Pervez Musharraf and Army Chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani but the President House and the GHQ have different stories to tell.

Sources close to President Musharraf claimed that Prime Minister Gilani only discussed the need for improving coordination and information between civilian and Army intelligence agencies a few days ago. The president agreed to this proposal but the notification issued by the Cabinet Division on July 26 shocked all and created panic in Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

The president called the Army chief to counter-check and General Kayani checked from the director general of ISI as to who gave consent to the prime minister for placing the ISI under the Interior Ministry. After consulting each other, these three came to the conclusion that the prime minister had “misunderstood” something because there was no written understanding from the president or the Army chief in this regard.

The prime minister was in London when he received a call from Rawalpindi at 11 in the night (Pakistan Standard Time). Gilani was informed that the Army, and especially the ISI, was trying its best to stay away from politics for the past many months but his decision to place the ISI under the control of Rehman Malik would be seen as an attempt to again politicise the ISI for achieving certain political objectives.

The prime minister was also informed that there was a lot of resentment in the Army circles and more misunderstandings could be created as a result of the decision. He was told that the ISI could share its strategic intelligence with him or with the Defense Ministry but not with the Interior Ministry.

Within minutes, another caller informed Prime Minister Gilani in London that President Musharraf was not ready to accept this decision because it was a clear violation of rules of business of the Government of Pakistan.

After this exchange of views, Prime Minister Gilani immediately contacted PPP Co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari in Dubai and informed him about the “feedback”.Asif Ali Zardari suggested to the prime minister that the country could not afford any misunderstandings between the armed forces and the civilian government, so it will be better to reverse the decision immediately.

Talking to this scribe on Sunday evening from Dubai, Asif Ali Zardari said that there was no bad intention in placing the ISI under the control of the Interior Ministry and stressed: “We don’t want any confrontation between different state organs and that was why the prime minister tried to remove some misunderstandings through a clarification released by the Press Information Department.”

Asif Ali Zardari accepted that some more homework and detailed consultations were needed before such a sensitive decision was announced but claimed: “It’s a new government with a lot of challenges and problems. Anybody can make mistakes in such a situation but nobody should doubt our intentions.”

Bad timing and poor strategy to improve coordination between the civilian and the Army intelligence agency have provided more excuses to the opposition to criticise the new government.

This bad strategy has also raised questions about the competence of Prime Minister Gilani and he may be asked by the party to explain why he took such a sensitive decision without proper homework and detailed consultations with all the stakeholders.

** ISI FIASCO AND RAHMAN MALIK**

The ‘ISI fiasco’ has proved yet again that the present regime has very little faith in institutionalised decisions. Last week’s official order issued to shift the ISI and the IB to the Interior Ministry without consulting the federal cabinet, any parliamentary body or the stakeholders is one such example.

It was all done in indecent haste and without even going through any detailed inter-ministerial consultation between the ministries of defence, interior, cabinet, etc. Adviser to the Prime Minister on Interior, Rehman Malik, and his secretary Syed Kamal Shah had reportedly persuaded Asif Ali Zardari to get the Rules of Business amended to bring the ISI under the Interior Ministry apparently for better coordination between the intelligence agencies.

While Rehman Malik was initially reported to have claimed that the decision to shift the ISI and the IB was taken with the consent of the president and the Army chief, but later he told a private television channel in London, on his way to Washington, that he was not aware of any notification about putting the chief spying agency under the ministry’s control.

Hamid Mir of Geo’s ‘Capital Talk’ told The News that he spoke to Rehman Malik on July 26, the day the contentious notification was issued, for almost 20 minutes and the adviser had assured him that the decision was taken in consultation with President Musharraf, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, Army chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani and Asif Ali Zardari. But on July 27, the private TV channel quoted Malik as saying he was not aware of any notification.

Interior Secretary Syed Kamal Shah, who interestingly was granted further extension in his contractual appointment the same day when the ISI and the IB were brought under the Interior Ministry’s control, was fully in picture.

An influential PPP lady MNA, who is very close to the Zardari House, told this correspondent on condition of anonymity that Kamal Shah was the actual initiator of the contentious move. He got another job extension for the same reason, she maintained.

Although Kamal Shah was not available for his comments, an official of the Interior Ministry claimed that Shah, too, was in the dark regarding the move. The Zardari House sources, however, say that Siraj Shamsuddin, the Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister, and Kamal Shah were the two bureaucrats who were assigned to get the things finalised while the notification was issued by the Cabinet Division. These sources quoted Siraj to have asked Kamal Shah to consult about the draft of the notification with the GHQ prior to its issuance by the Cabinet Division, but it was not done.

The Cabinet Division on Saturday last had formally notified, through an amendment in the Rules of Business, the Prime Minister’s approval for the placement of the Intelligence Bureau and Inter-Services Intelligence under the administrative, financial and operational control of the Interior Division with immediate effect.

The Cabinet Division also did not find it appropriate to consult all the stakeholders before issuing the same notification, which was not formally withdrawn till Monday afternoon. Interior Ministry sources said that the verbal order of the prime minister withdrawing the July 26 decision had been conveyed to all concerned. However, the formal reversal would be done upon the PM’s return from the US.

Late on the night of July 26, the government, through PID, issued a clarification that the ISI will continue to perform its functions under the prime minister, adding that the notification regarding its control was being misinterpreted. The PID added that the notification only re-emphasised more coordination between the Ministry of Interior and the ISI in relation to the war on terror and internal security.

Actually, the original Cabinet Division memorandum did not talk of the war on terror or the internal security. While the intelligence agencies in different parts of the world, including in the US, Britain and India, report directly to the country’s chief executive, be it the president or the prime minister, the government in Pakistan took a rare decision of placing the elite intelligence agencies under a Federal Division headed by an unelected adviser for all operational, administrative and financial purposes.

The ISI is one of the most professional and well-equipped intelligence networks in the world, controversies regarding its interference in politics and in the making and breaking of governments notwithstanding. Considered as the first line of country’s defence, the ISI’s effectiveness on matters of internal and external security has made it a villain for the countries like the United State, India and now even Afghanistan.

The slain Indian prime minister, Rajiv Gandhi, had once desired to have an effective intelligence agency like the ISI for India. However, there has been a general demand that the ISI’s political wing should be abolished and the agency should not be dragged into affairs that exclusively fall in the domain of the politicians.

During Benazir Bhutto’s first tenure, a committee under retired Air Chief Zulfiqar was constituted to review the role of the intelligence agencies, including the ISI. The committee, apart from other things, also sought depoliticisation of the ISI. The then ISI chief also wrote to the government seeking the abolition of its Political Cell. However, it was not done.

During the past eight years’ rule of General Musharraf the ISI saw an all-time high involvement in politics. It was not only used to create the ‘King’s Party’ but was also involved to manoeuvre the 2002 general elections to the benefit of Musharraf.

It was also dragged into the judicial crisis, which, too, had become a personal thing for the military ruler. Although the present ISI-connected controversy caused a lot of embarrassment to the PPP government, it could be converted into a golden opportunity to implement Air Marshal Zulfiqar’s recommendations and rid the agency of its political role for the interest of democracy, the agency itself and the country.

** Gen Tariq Majid**

Repeated US missile strikes in Pakistan could harm relations between the two countries, CJCSC told a visiting US commander on Monday, a statement said.

The warning by Gen Tariq Majid, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, to Lt-Gen Martin Dempsey, head of US Central Command, came hours after a suspected US missile strike in tribal belt.

“Expressing concern over repeated cross-border missile attacks/firing by coalition and Afghan forces, Gen Tariq said that our sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected,” a military statement said. “Any violation in this regard could be detrimental to bilateral relations,” it said.

Gen Tariq “also reemphasised that Pakistan armed forces are capable of handling any challenges to our security”. He said the “baseless allegations against Pakistan could affect mutual trust and would definitely influence our efforts in the war against terror”.

** REHMAN MALIK ISI AND IB 58 2(b)**
Pakistan's security czar Rehman Malik says he had absolutely nothing to do with the controversial notification to take over ISI and IB and when he returns to Pakistan he would see that some heads roll immediately for this blunder.

According to his explanation the notification was issued by some bureaucrats who included the name of ISI without getting proper approvals from competent authorities and he would see to it that those responsible were held accountable.

This explanation was provided by Mr Malik, who is accompanying Prime Minister Gilani in his Washington visit to senior PPP leaders but when he visited the Washington media centre on Monday afternoon where he was bombarded with questions, he refused to answer any on this or any other subject. Malik, however, did say on record that there was absolutely no question of President Pervez Musharraf using the dreaded 58(2-B).

** US President George W Bush AND ISI ROLE**

US President George W Bush expressed his concern and some annoyance with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani over the role of the ISI in Pakistan.

Defence Minister, Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar, who was also present at the meeting, told The News. He said President Bush expressed concern that certain elements in the ISI were leaking information to the terrorists before they could be hit by the US or Pakistani forces. This is a cause of concern for the US side, he added.

Talking exclusively to this correspondent, Ahmed Mukhtar said the meeting otherwise was held in good atmosphere, and the US administration looked committed to support the civilian set-up.

“President Bush also asked who is controlling the ISI,” the minister said, indicating that Bush was probably aware of the fiasco created by the failed attempt by the Ministry of Interior to take control of the ISI through a notification shortly before PM Gilani arrived in Washington.

Another source said President Bush agreed with the Pakistani point of view that all parties in the Afghan conflict, the Nato forces, Pakistan and Afghanistan should take equal responsibility of meeting the terrorist threats.

“The US president agreed that specific tasks must be identified for each party to meet and then the performance of each party should be assessed. Accusations against each other should not be levelled publicly,” the source quoted President Bush as saying.

AP/AFP add: Meanwhile, the CIA has confronted senior Pakistani officials with evidence showing that members of the country’s spy service have deepened their ties with some militant groups responsible for a surge of violence in Afghanistan, possibly including the suicide bombing this month of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, The New York Times reported.

A top CIA official travelled to Islamabad this month with new information about ties between Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency and militants operating in Pakistan’s tribal areas, the newspaper said on its Web site late Tuesday. Its sources were American military and intelligence officials it did not identify.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s military rejected the “malicious” report that a top CIA official visiting this month confronted Islamabad over ties between the ISI and militants. “We reject this report. This is unfounded, baseless and malicious,” chief Pakistani military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said.

“I would like to emphasise here that ISI is a premier intelligence agency which has caught or apprehended maximum al-Qaeda operatives including those who were linked with criminals and responsible for attacking the US mainland on September 11, 2001,” Abbas said.

The Times said the CIA assessment pointed to links between the ISI and the militant network led by Jalaluddin Haqqani, which American officials believe maintains close ties to senior figures of al-Qaeda in Pakistan’s tribal areas. The CIA has depended heavily on the ISI for information about militants in Pakistan.

The visit to Pakistan by the CIA official, Stephen R Kappes, the agency’s deputy director, was described by several American military and intelligence officials in interviews in recent days, the Times said. Some of those who were interviewed said they welcomed the decision by the CIA to take a harder line towards the ISI’s dealings with militant groups.

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani is in Washington meeting with Bush administration officials. In an interview broadcast Tuesday on PBS television show “The News Hour With JimLehrer,” Gilani said that to say that some in the ISI are “sympathetic to the militants, this is not believable. ... We will not allow that.”

CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf refused to comment on the Times report late Tuesday. The newspaper said it was unclear whether CIA officials have concluded that contacts between the ISI and militant groups are blessed at the highest levels of Pakistan’s spy service and military or are carried out by rogue elements of Pakistan’s security apparatus.

Kappes made his secret visit to Pakistan on July 12, joining Adm Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for meetings with senior Pakistani civilian and military leaders, the Times said.

Muhammad Saleh Zaafir from Washington adds: Interior Advisor to Prime Minister, Rehman Malik, has emphatically refuted the allegations levelled by The New York Times that the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had connections with the terrorists.

Talking to the News Wednesday, Rehman said the Indian propaganda is an effort to malign Pakistan’s supreme agency, the ISI, which has played a commendable role in curbing terrorism in all its manifestations.

The interior advisor said the Pakistan government has informed the American authorities about India’s clandestine contact with the terrorists, including Baitullah Mehsud, and their hideouts in the tribal areas of Pakistan.

Rehman advised the Indian government to refrain from fanning terrorist activities in the areas of sensitive nature. He said India should not mislead the world and withdraw its support to the terrorists in the region

** Is ISI still under Rehman Malik ?**

The Cabinet Division has not formally withdrawn the controversial order on transferring the ISI’s control from the Defence Ministry to the Interior Ministry, raising the question whether the government has again changed its mind and decided to keep the agency under the Interior Ministry.

Within hours of the issuance of the July 26 Cabinet Division notification announcing the placement of the ISI and the IB under the Interior Ministry, the government issued a clarification that the ISI would continue to perform its functions under the prime minister and that the Cabinet Division’s notification was misinterpreted.

Almost, all newspapers and television channels announced that the government had stepped

back on the issue of the ISI’s control amid reports that the decision was reversed by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani after he had received two emergency calls from Rawalpindi.

However, on government files, the situation is just the same as it was on Saturday last, i.e. the ISI and the IB stand transferred to the Interior Ministry. No formal order for the reversal of the same notification has been issued so far by the Cabinet Division.

Although, an Interior Ministry source told this correspondent a few days back that some authorities concerned had been verbally conveyed to maintain the pre-July 26 notification status, and unless the said notification was formally cancelled, the confusion would not go.

A journalist who is known for his close association with Asif Ali Zardari wrote in his column on Thursday that it seemed that the PPP had decided to take a stand on the ISI issue. PPP spokesman Farhatullah Babar when contacted, however, connected the reversal of the order issue with Adviser to the Prime Minister on Interior Rehman Malik’s statement that he would look into the matter to fix the responsibility.

The Cabinet Division on Saturday last formally notified “the prime minister’s approval for the placement of the Intelligence Bureau and the Inter-Services Intelligence under the administrative, financial and operational control of the Interior Division with immediate effect”.

Late night on July 26, the government through the PID issued a clarification that the ISI will continue to perform its functions under the prime minister, adding the notification regarding the control of the ISI was being misinterpreted.

After the verbal reversal of the order, it was expected that the formal annulment of the notification would be done upon the return of Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani from his US visit. The prime minister is leaving for Colombo on Saturday but no cancellation order was issued by the Cabinet Division till the filing of this report.

The decision to shift the ISI under the Interior Ministry has been generally criticised for the reason that it was not only ill-timed but also done without proper consultation with all the stakeholders.

The objection was mainly to make the prime intelligence agencies of the country to report to the prime minister’s unelected adviser on interior. While at home, the ISI was the focus of discussion for different reasons, the US administration and the American media at the same time, during Gilani’s visit to Washington, resorted to ISI bashing.

The US administration seeks the blind following of its dictates, particularly with regard to the so-called war on terror, by the government of Pakistan, the Pak-Army and the ISI no matter what price Islamabad has to pay for it. The US administration and the American media have launched scathing attacks on the ISI for not doing what the US desires from it.

USA VISIT NOW THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGE FOR MUSHARRAF

Gilani feels no need to meet Musharraf after US visit

Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani has discontinued, may be temporarily, an old practice of meeting President Pervez Musharraf before and after every foreign visit.

"It is not required under the rules that the premier should meet the president every time he embarks on or comes back from a foreign visit," a senior official told this correspondent.

As per its considered policy, the Gilani government kept Musharraf at an arm's length on the prime minister's all-embracing maiden official tour to the United States.

Gilani did not consult with the president before departing for Washington. A day after his return to Islamabad from the US, he left for Sri Lanka to attend a summit of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Saarc), and did not meet Musharraf.

The prime minister also could not hold a session with PPP Co-Chairman Asif Zardari to brief him about his Washington visit for paucity of time. Zardari was extremely busy holding meetings with diplomats and party leaders on Friday, PPP spokesman Farhatullah Babar told The News.

Before and after his first couple of foreign visits, Gilani made it a point to call on Musharraf to consult with him on his talks with foreign leaders. At the time, the relations between the president and Zardari/government were somewhat normal. However, with the worsening of their ties, Gilani too has stopped meeting Musharraf, toeing his party line.

Informed circles have no doubt about the deterioration of relations between Musharraf and Zardari/government. Zardari's decision to shift the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) under the Interior Ministry's control further irked the president.

These quarters say that Gilani's future meetings with Musharraf about his foreign visits would depend on how the relations between the president and the PPP chief would develop.

However, a day before the prime minister had left for Washington, Chief of the Army Staff General Pervaiz Ashfaq Kayani met both Gilani and Musharraf, and it is believed that the US visit was the main topic of discussion.

Earlier, General Kayani had briefed a marathon session of the heads of the ruling coalition parties at the Prime Minister's House on the operations against terrorists in the tribal areas that have been under the American focus. This briefing was related to Gilani's visit to Washington.

Not only the prime minister has maintained a wide distance from the president, but other cabinet members and a horde of advisers and ambassadors-at-large have also done the same.

No member of Gilani's entourage to Washington especially cabinet ministers and officials has so far met Musharraf to talk about his US visit. Unless Musharraf has got information from other sources about Gilani's talks in Washington with President George W Bush and other senior American leaders, he is totally in the dark about the important deliberations.

During the prime minister's stay in the US and on the conclusion of his visit, there has been not even a worthwhile passing publicly known reference to Musharraf. It is also not known whether the president's relevance or irrelevance was also discussed at any point of time.

Credible officials, privy to the president's views, say that Musharraf is disturbed over Gilani's unimpressive performance in the US. Particularly, they say, he is greatly upset over the malicious campaign against Pakistan premier spy agency, ISI, at different levels and forums in the US as the prime minister's visit was in progress.

Successive prime ministers had been staying away from the presidents when their relations had been highly tense otherwise they had been holding frequent meetings on all domestic and foreign issues. They had been destabilizing each other when they had been on a warpath

PPP, PML-N slowly move towards a break

Leading coalition partners, the PPP and the PML-N, have started giving cold shoulder to each other as bitterness grows between the two with every passing day.

With the future of the ruling coalition hanging in limbo, PPP Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari ignored the letter written to him by PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif last month and did not bother to send a reply to his “elder brother”.

The PML-N did not like this and was expecting to get a response from Zardari. The PPP, on the other hand, is bickering over the refusal of Nawaz Sharif to meet Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in the UK while he was on his way to Washington for his recently concluded visit to the US.

Nawaz Sharif, in his letter written almost 19 days ago, has raised issues, including the reinstatement of the deposed judges, impeachment of the president and implementation of the Charter of Democracy (CoD), haunting the coalition and sought their immediate resolution.

Zardari, however, has not yet replied to Nawaz Sharif. The PML-N sources confirmed this and expressed their “surprise” over the indifference shown to their top leadership by the PPP co-chairman.

On the other hand, the PPP did not like Nawaz Sharif’s turning down initially the request from Asif Ali Zardari to become a part of the visit of the prime minister to the US and later flatly refusing to see or even have a meal with the prime minister in London, where Gilani stayed for a day on his way to Washington.

Zardari wanted that he, along with Nawaz, should make a part of the entourage of the prime minister for his visit to the US with the objective to take Washington into confidence on the issue of the fate of President Musharraf and to deal with terrorism and extremism.

Nawaz, however, told Zardari that he would not like to discuss these internal issues of Pakistan with the US, which was considered a “stakeholder” by the PPP leader.

A source said the PPP co-chairman also wanted the PML-N chief to meet together US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Boucher during his last visit to Pakistan. On that occasion too, Nawaz said no and later, in his meeting with Boucher, snubbed America for interfering in the internal affairs of Pakistan.

A PML-N source said Nawaz was conveyed later that he was too tough with the Americans but he responded that he talked of principles.

Prime Minister Gilani wanted to meet Nawaz in London but the latter did not oblige his prime minister, arguing that he did not like discussing politics in an overseas land. The prime minister was even willing to have a meal with Nawaz in London but that too was not acceptable to the PML-N chief.

While Nawaz succeeded to avoid Gilani but he could not do the same to Rehman Malik, who met him at his London residence. However, later in their photo session for the media outside his London flat, Nawaz did not conceal his reserved expressions.

The smiles, which were exchanged between the coalition partners after the Feb 18 elections and particularly on March 9, 2008 when the two signed the Murree Declaration, seem to be history now.

Although, no date has been announced for a meeting between Zardari and Nawaz, nothing miraculous is expected from the two to lift the morale of the depressed nation, which had attached high expectations from the coalition.

Now, the PML-N leaders in their background discussions do not hesitate to ask if Zardari is serious in governance or only towards his own party.

Minister for Defence Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar has said though US President George W Bush has expressed his reservations over the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) :)

The United States has accused Pakistan’s main spy agency of deliberately undermining Nato efforts in Afghanistan by helping the Taliban and al-Qaeda militants they are supposed to be fighting, the Sunday Times reported.

President George W Bush confronted Yusuf Raza Gilani in Washington last week with evidence of involvement by the ISI in a deadly attack on the Afghan capital and warned of retaliation if it continues.

The move comes amid growing fears that Pakistanís tribal areas are turning into a global launch pad for terrorists. Gilani, on his first official US visit since being elected in February, was left in no doubt that the Bush administration had lost patience with the ISIís alleged double game. Bush warned that if one more attack in Afghanistan or elsewhere were traced back to Pakistan, he would have to take ìserious actionî.

Gilani also met Michael Hayden, director of the CIA, who confronted him with a dossier on ISI support for the Taliban. The key evidence concerned last monthís bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul, which killed 54 people, including the military attache.

An intercepted telephone conversation apparently revealed that ISI agents masterminded the operation. The United States also claimed to have arrested an ISI officer inside Afghanistan. Pakistani ministers said they had left Washington reeling from what they described as a ìgrillingî and shocked at ìthe trust deficitî between Pakistan and its most important backer.

ìThey were very hot on the ISI,î said a member of the Pakistan delegation. ìVery hot. When we asked them for more information, Bush laughed and said, ëWhen we share information with your guys, the bad guys always run awayí.î

ìThe question is why itís taken the Americans so long to see what the ISI is doing,î said Afrasiab Khattak, provincial president for the Awami National party. ìWeíve been telling them for years but they wouldnít buy it.î

The American accusations were categorically denied by Rehman Malik, Pakistanís de facto interior minister. ìThere is no involvement by the ISI of any form in Afghanistan,î he told The Sunday Times. ìWe requested evidence which has not yet been given.î

Malik admitted that in meetings in London, senior British government and intelligence officials had also told him they were convinced of ISI involvement in the embassy bombing. It is the first time the White House has openly confronted Pakistan since just after the 9/11 terrorist attacks on Washington and New York when General Pervez Musharrafís regime was told to drop its support for the Taliban or be bombed back to the Stone Age.

Musharraf agreed and went on to change the director of the ISI and build a close relationship with Bush who described him as his ìbest friendî. But many middle-ranking officers continued to hold close links with militants built up over 20 years since the Mujahideen were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan.

There were persistent reports of Pakistani territory being used for terrorist training camps and recruitment. Foreign journalists were banned from Quetta ìfor our own securityî ñ those of us who have ventured there to investigate have generally ended up arrested.

President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan has repeatedly accused Pakistan of harbouring Taliban leaders, providing lists of addresses and at one time claiming that its leader, Mullah Omar, was living in a military cantonment.

For the West, confronting Islamabad is a risky strategy as Pakistanís support is critical to the war on terrorism. Afghanistan is landlocked and much of the logistical support and food for the 53,000 Nato troops, including water for the British forces in Helmand, has to be shipped into Karachi and driven through Pakistan.

ìItís a calculated risk,î said a western diplomat in Islamabad, pointing out that Pakistan could not afford to do without US aid, which averages £1 billion a year. The military has also benefited: only last week four more F-16 fighter jets were handed over to the air force.

An open challenge to the ISI was welcomed by Nato troops operating in Afghanistan, particularly the American forces fighting in the east. For years their commanders have expressed frustration at militants coming across the border to take pot shots at them, before moving back to the sanctuary of the tribal areas. These areas are seen as the new battleground in the war on terror. Originally created by the British as a buffer between the Indian empire and Afghanistan, they stretch along Pakistanís 1,500-mile border with Afghanistan.

As the poorest and most backward part of Pakistan with a literacy rate of just 3%, but fiercely martial, they are the breeding ground for militant groups. Political parties are not allowed. As militant groups have grown in influence, local people have nowhere else to turn.

Most of the attacks on US soldiers in eastern Afghanistan are ordered by Maulvi Jalalud-din Haqqani, who operates from Miramshah in North Waziristan, and whom the United States believes to have close ties with al-Qaeda.

Neighbouring South Waziristan is dominated by Baitullah Mehsud, a former gym teacher, whose Pakistan Taliban is believed by the CIA to be responsible for the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, the former prime minister, last December.

ìThe security of Pakistan, Afghanistan, the entire region and maybe that of the whole world will be determined by developments in the tribal areas over the next few months,î said Khattak.

The United States has carried out a number of bombings and missile strikes inside the areas, although each time the key targets seem to have escaped. So concerned is the Bush administration that the ISI is tipping militants off that in January it sent two senior intelligence officials to Pakistan. Mike Mc-Connell, the director of national intelligence, and Hayden asked Musharraf to allow the CIA greater freedom to operate in the tribal areas.

Of particular US concern was the ISIís alleged involvement with Haqqani, one of its former allies, and its links to Lashkar-i-Taiba, a Punjab-based militant group, which is thought to have been behind the attack on an American outpost in Kunar last month in which nine US soldiers were killed.

Many US intelligence officials have long suspected that ISI officers accept their money and then help their foes, but it has been difficult to find proof. In June the Afghan government publicly accused the ISI of being behind an assassination attempt on Karzai in April and threatened to send their own troops into the border. But they were unable to produce any concrete evidence.

ìThe Indian embassy bombing seems to have finally provided it. This is the smoking gun weíve all been looking for,î a British official said last week. On the eve of the Washington visit, the Pakistan government tried to tame the ISI by announcing that it would henceforth come under interior ministry control. It was forced to revoke the decision within three hours after angry phone calls from the Army chief.

Malik, on behalf of the government, claimed the decision had been misinterpreted. ìWhat we were trying to do was bring national security and the war on terror under the interior ministry but it was wrongly announced,î he said.

US officials say the number of attacks on their soldiers in Afghanistan have increased by 60% since the civilian government took power this year. In a reflection of who really calls the shots, while the government party was in Washington Lieutenant-General Martin Dempsey, acting commander of Centcom, the US military command, was in Islamabad handing over F-16 fighter planes and holding meetings with the top brass. A British officer who was present at the meeting said Pakistani generals had spoken of their frustration with the civilian government: ìThey said they were still waiting for a signal to act in the tribal areas. To be honest, none of us could think of a thing they had done in six months.î

The sensitivity of the intelligence issue became clear on Friday night when Sherry Rehman, the information minister, acknowledged to journalists that the ISI might still contain pro-Taliban operatives. ìWe need to identify these people and weed them out,î she said, only to change her statement later to maintain that the problems were in the past and there would be no purge.

Pakistan ministers were particularly incensed when the United States launched a missile strike inside one of the countryís tribal areas on Monday, while the government party was still en route to Washington. ìIt was the first thing I read on my BlackBerry when I got off the plane,î said a member of the delegation. ìWhat a nice gift.î

President Pervez Musharraf has said that plots were being hatched against the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), adding weakening this premier intelligence agency was tantamount to weakening the country and the armed forces. He said a dangerous situation was brewing and suggested a roundtable conference of politicians to tackle issues of national interest.

The president was addressing traders and industrialists at a dinner hosted in his honour at a local hotel Sunday evening. Gen (R) Pervez Musharraf said that conspiracies against the ISI were aimed to defame Pakistan. ISI is a patriotic institution, which is working for the stability of the country.

He said economic situation was very fragile and it had become difficult for the country to survive with such a weak economy. The president said he was ready to talk to politicians to restore economic health.

"The nation will have to decide as to which kind of Islam it wants. We should openly express our views. The world says that Pakistan is extremist. We will have to prove that we are not so. When I say this, I am dubbed as American stooge," the president said while opening his heart.

President Musharraf said he was ready to talk to Qazi Hussain Ahmad and other politicians. The president recalled that the dangers he had pinpointed during his address to the business community in Karachi a month back had now come to the fore. He said economy was on the downslide, foreign exchange reserves over which the government took pride were falling down, foreign investment was flying, currency was devaluing and stock market was crashing.

He said extremism and terrorism could not be taken for granted. The people had rejected extremists and terrorists in elections who had elected liberal and moderate representatives. Extremism and terrorism were now on the rise in areas where people had rejected such trends. "We have to decide whether we want a liberal and moderate Pakistan or a terrorist or extremist Pakistan."

He said he would call them illiterate who wanted an extremist Pakistan. He said a crucial responsibility rested with the people in this regard. He lamented that it was a bad luck for the nation that 'we had begun to think when we were almost drowned.' The present situation was extremely dangerous. The central and provincial governments as well as law enforcing agencies should have one voice as there should be no conflicting situation among them.

Pakistan has complained to the United States military leadership and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that Washington’s policy towards terrorism in Pakistan was inconsistent with America’s declared commitment to the war against terror.

Impeccable official sources have said that strong evidence and circumstantial evidence of American acquiescence to terrorism inside Pakistan was outlined by President Pervez Musharraf, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani and Director General Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt. Gen. Nadeem Taj in their separate meetings with US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen and CIA Deputy Director Stephen R Kappes on July 12 in Rawalpindi.

The visit by the senior US military official along with the CIA deputy director — carrying what were seen as India-influenced intelligence inputs — hardened the resolve of Pakistanís security establishment to keep supreme Pakistan’s national security interest even if it meant straining ties with the US and Nato.

A senior official with direct knowledge of these meetings said that Pakistan’s military leadership and the president asked the American visitors “not to distinguish between a terrorist for the United States and Afghanistan and a terrorist for Pakistan”.

For reasons best known to Langley, the CIA headquarters, as well as the Pentagon, Pakistani officials say the Americans were not interested in disrupting the Kabul-based fountainhead of terrorism in Balochistan nor do they want to allocate the marvellous predator resource to neutralise the kingpin of suicide bombings against the Pakistani military establishment now hiding near the Pak-Afghan border.

In the strongest evidence-based confrontation with the American security establishment since the two countries established their post-9/11 strategic alliance, Pakistani officials proved Brahamdagh Bugti’s presence in Afghan intelligence safe houses in Kabul, his photographed visits to New Delhi and his orders for terrorism in Balochistan.

The top US military commander and the CIA official were also asked why the CIA-run predator and the US military did not swing into action when they were provided the exact location of Baitullah Mehsud, Pakistan’s enemy number one and the mastermind of almost every suicide operation against the Pakistan Army and the ISI since June 2006.

One such precise piece of information was made available to the CIA on May 24 when Baitullah Mehsud drove to a remote South Waziristan mountain post in his Toyota Land Cruiser to address the press and returned back to his safe abode. The United States military has the capacity to direct a missile to a precise location at very short notice as it has done close to 20 times in the last few years to hit al-Qaeda targets inside Pakistan.

Pakistani official have long been intrigued by the presence of highly encrypted communications gear with Baitullah Mehsud. This communication gear enables him to collect real-time information on Pakistani troop movement from an unidentified foreign source without being intercepted by Pakistani intelligence.

Admiral Mullen and the CIA official were in Pakistan on an unannounced visit on July 12 to show what the US media claimed was evidence of the ISI’s ties to†Taliban commander Maulana Sirajuddin Haqqani and the alleged involvement of Pakistani agents in the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul.

Pakistani military leaders rubbished the American information and evidence on the Kabul bombing but provided some rationale for keeping a window open with Haqqani, just as the British government had decided to open talks with some Taliban leaders in southern Afghanistan last year.

Before opening new channels of communication with the Taliban in Helmand province in March this year, the British and Nato forces were talking to leading Taliban leaders through†Michael Semple, the acting head of the European Union mission to Afghanistan, and Mervyn Patterson, a senior UN official, before their unprecedented expulsion from Afghanistan by the Karzai government†in January this year.

The American visitors were also told that the government of Pakistan had to seek the help of Taliban commanders such as Sirajuddin Haqqani for the release of its kidnapped ambassador Tariquddin Aziz, after the US-backed Karzai administration failed to secure Aziz’s release from his captors in Afghanistan.

Admiral Mullen and Kappes were both provided information about the activities of the Indian consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad and were asked how the CIA does not know that both Indian consulates are manned by Indian Intelligence who plot against Pakistan round the clock.

“ We wanted to know when our American friends would get interested in tracking down the terrorists responsible for hundreds of suicide bombings in Pakistan and those playing havoc with our natural resources in Balochistan while sitting in Kabul and Delhi,”, an official described the Pakistani mood during the July 12 meetings.

Throughout their meetings, the Americans were told that Pakistan would like to continue as an active partner in the war against terror and at no cost would it allow its land to be used by our people to plot terror against Afghanistan or India . However, Pakistan would naturally want the United States, India and Afghanistan to refrain from supporting Pakistani terrorists.

Pakistani officials have said that the current “trust deficit” between the Pakistani and US security establishment is not serious enough to lead to a collapse , but the element of suspicion is very high, more so because of† the CIA’s decision to publicise the confidential exchange of information with Pakistan and to use its leverage with the new government to try to arm-twist the Army and the ISI.

The Pakistani security establishment, officials said, want a fresh round of strategic dialogue with their counterparts in the US, essentially to prioritise the objectives and terrorist targets in the war against terror, keeping in mind the serious national security interests of the allies.

Re: PPP ARMY MUSHARRAF ISI USA AND IMPEACHMENT REAL FACE OF POLITICIAN FROM 25 JULY

oh bhai sahib? apnay hi thread may flooding? what is the point of this thread? is this to listen and read to your view? or an archive of your writing? :hmmm:

Re: PPP ARMY Musharraf ISI USA and impeachment real face of politician from 25th July

summary?

This is especially amusing. The question is, if Pakistani authorities knew the EXACT LOCATION of Pakistan's ENEMY NUMBER ONE, why didn't they do the job themselves instead of asking Americans to do it?

Which country, on earth, would ask another country to target its enemy on the territory over which it is claiming sovereignty.

If they could target Nawab Akbar Bugti in his extremely secret hideout, then why not Baitullah Mahsood?

Re: PPP ARMY Musharraf ISI USA and impeachment real face of politician from 25th July

We are so blessed to have imranjaff on Gupshup who is regaling us with his brilliant insights into whats going on in Pakistan. Oh Wait! Are these just cut-pastes without any links? Sheesh!!! Nevermind....

While Musharraf may be called a dictator; it is his democratic policies that have made the maximum contribution to his unpopularity.
He gave the media its much awaited freedom. The media wanted to use its freedom to the full it found an easy target in a tolerant and democratic-minded military ruler. Live current affair talk shows replaced the daily soaps at tea time, and news anchors took the place of movie stars.

With the discovery of live coverage, something had to be covered, so sensationalism became the ‘in’ thing. The more controversial, the more it sells. The media that Musharraf had opened up to show his dedication to putting Pakistan on the track of democracy chose him to be its favorite villain.Musharraf was blamed for the exiled politicians. So he designed the NRO to bring them back. The Feb. 18 election result showed that it was the will of the majority to have these people back, not only in the country but also in power. The list of corruption cases and the record of past performances was not enough to challenge the invincible feudal power of these feudal politicians. Yet Musharraf lost the faith of his own supporters due to NRO because they saw it as a compromise on principles.
Those who criticized Musharraf before the elections for not allowing the exiled politicians to return, were now criticizing Musharraf for letting these failed politicians back, after seeing their disappointing performance after Feb. 18. **Musharraf’s biggest mistake is that he tried to be a democratic leader while**
he could have easily been an authoritative one. What was required perhaps was that he ruled this country like a true dictator, changing the political system and snubbing all opposition. He joined a political party - most likely the wrong one – took off his uniform, held elections, and let the power transition be smooth for those whom the nation had chosen, despite knowing their inabilities. He has thevision and ability to do more for this country than these self-centered politicians ever will, but it is his reputation that is tarnished while they enjoy their moments of gloryHow can I speak in favor of a man who broke the constitution to gain power? How can anyone support a dictator? “The people of this country
want democracy, not a man in uniform.” We hear this line time and again.

Before deciding on what the people of this country want, a reality check should be taken. The people of this country don’t care that a man who had nothing to dowith politics all his life, who was not even an active member of the party that his wife was leading while she was alive, who was always in the backseat with the only limelight he got being for all the wrong reasons … that man is now ruling the country, without a vote and without a seat in the parliament. Why? Because the 19 year old heir to the throne is too young to take over as king. Some mockery ofdemocracy this is!

There is a piece of paper much talked about and we are ready to put a man on trial for violating it. Those who talk about democracy and the importance of this paper should look at their own history first. The constitution passed in 1973 was first amended by the very man who passed it. In April 1974 an amendment allowed to limit the press freedom and ban any political parties it felt were a threat to the ‘sovereignty and integrity’ of the country. In 1975 laws were passed to detain suspects indefinitely and take away rights of bail for those arrested
by the FSF, the fascist personal militia of the ‘democratic’ ruler at the time. This was the fate chosen for the constitution by its own architect.This vendetta against the President has nothing to do with the violation of the constitution or democracy. Mr. Nawaz Sharif and his bruised ego won’t rest until the man responsible for his downfall is driven out of office. The political system is hostage to one man’s revenge. It is an old and dirty move in this power play, because the only thing that really matters to the politicians is power. Today theytalk about their struggle for democracy, but like all their other claims, it is a sham. In the 1977 election, there was open prosecution of the supporters of political parties, rallies were banned, and a law was passed limiting public gatherings to just 5 people. Power hunger led Bhutto to rig the elections in 1977, an unnecessary, hasty and fatal move. Contrast this with the Feb. 18, 2008, election, held by the so-called dictator. That’s the truth.

The tradition of seizing power continues. One has to give Mr. Zerdari full credit for not only securing the rider’s seat on this horse of power, but also playing the role well. Whether it’s his transformation from a Sindhi **jagir** dar** to an English speaking diplomat, or his never ending talks with Nawaz Sharif to maintain the coalition, Mr. Zardari has become what we call a true politician in*I support a man who I know is educated, who comes from a middle class family and who served this country for years through its most prestigious institution. I would choose him over the hypocritical feudals with shady pasts any day. The elite whose lifestyles have no resemblance to those of the common man, and who only see politics as the easiest path to self capitalization. *I don’t care if Musharraf used his uniform to become the president. I am not a politician, so I don’t have to be diplomatic. I am not a lawyer, so I don’t have to defend the legitimacy of his actions. I am a young Pakistani who wants to see this nation get out of the chains of feudalism and become a progressive state. If it takes a dictator to do that, so be it.***This system and these politicians have given us enough reasons to lose our faith in them. Their model of democracy is a twisted one that only serves their own purpose as per convenience, without a consideration for the country or its people. What they call a ‘transition into democracy’ is a transition into darkness, with them being the civilian dictators. Keep your flamboyant styles and deceiving promises, no thank you, we don’t want your ‘vision’ of democracy.’ We are better suited to a dictatorship than this gag they call a democracy. Meanwhile, the comedy circus continues …*