PPP a national security risk.

Man I thought Musharraf sold out our national soverignty. But the PPP take the cake.

ISI’s functions to be discussed in US -DAWN - Top Stories; July 28, 2008

The ISI is an internal organ of the Pakistani government. It does not need to be discussed in the US. It does not need to be discussed anywhere except for inside Pakistan. Even then not every dumbass should be allowed to comment on its role and its actions.

How can you sell your self out like that? I wonder how much money those traitors in the PPP got for their actions.

sigh Atl east Musharraf had the testicular fortitude to maintain some form of independence, when it came to AQ Khan, the ISI and of course the military.

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with this attitude i dont think Gillani will long last, it would suggest him to find assylum in any country otherwise he is going to end up in Adyala.

The Height of incompetence.

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I think the government wanted to show their foreign masters that they have taken control of everything from the army and now President Pervez Musharraf was no more required.

Why not? Is it a sacred cow? If it is an internal organ of Pakistani government working under PM, why PM can not discuss it? What Uncle Sam does not know in dictators Zia-ul-Haq and Mush’s rule that Gilani would reveal something new to him now?

Fact is ISI is running a parallel government perhaps no civilian government in world wants that its intelligence agencies running as their competitors. Get a life man.

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Yes it is a sacred cow. Nobody has the right to interfere in the internal workings of a black ops organization. You see India discussing the inner workings of RAW with Russia? You see the British discussing the methods and structure of MI6 and MI5 with the Americans? No.

Why? Because its bloody sacred cow. Collaboration is something, coordination is another. Discussing the function and workings of the national spy agency with a country that is in no way our ally is selling our national sovereignty and more importantly a threat to our national security.

First wanting to hand over AQ Khan to the IAEA and now the ISI to the US. The PPP is truly a security hazard for Pakistan.

Well, political parties were brought back to do what West wanted them to do. West want to disband ISI since long time. If they could have done it, they would have pushed President Musharraf to do it, but since they could not, they did everything to bring political parties who can do that for West. Here is some News from 2006 to ponder … some relevant abstracts are as below … and reason why West pushed to get President out of power:

*One should read and think … especially … this part of the leaked British document: The document also describes the British policy of supporting President Musharraf as flawed because Pakistan is “on the edge of chaos”. It goes on to say that links between the British and Pakistan armies at a senior level should be exploited to persuade Musharraf to stand down, accept free elections and disband the ISI.

Here is President Musharraf reaction towards leak documents against him and ISI:

Musharraf has hit back at such claims, saying that the London bombers were radicalised in Britain. “Let us not absolve the United Kingdom from their responsibilities,” he said. “Youngsters who are 25, 30 years old, and who happen to come to Pakistan for a month or two, and you put the entire blame on these two months of visit to Pakistan and don’t talk about the 27 years or whatever they are suffering in your country.”

Musharraf angrily attacked claims made about the ISI in the British intelligence paper. “I totally, 200%, reject it … ISI is a disciplined force, breaking the back of al-Qaeda. Getting 680 [al-Qaeda suspects in custody] would not have been possible if our ISI was not doing an excellent job.”

“It’s high time that the world understood that the Muslims are 1.5 billion people. They have their own concerns - their own culture - and they are vastly moderate. Don’t lump Muslims together and assume they are extremists.”

Admitting that he finds himself distrusted even by his own allies - Mr Musharraf reacted angrily to news he had just received about a leaked paper by a Ministry of Defence think-tank researcher criticising Pakistan’s intelligence service, the ISI, for covertly abetting the Taliban.

“I thought that the British were diplomatic, but I don’t find this person, this individual, diplomatic at all,” he barked, adding that the ISI had captured the man thought to have masterminded the recent alleged plot to bomb airliners bound from Britain to the US.

To anyone arguing that the ISI should be disbanded, he had stern words. “Who has the audacity to suggest this? Would I ever be in a position to suggest that you disband your MI6?” adding: “What right does anyone have to tell us to disband our ISI, which was the main organ which assisted in the defeat of the Soviet Union?”

All above paragraphs are from two western news report:

NewsTalk: Two leaked reports, just one conclusion: the war on terror is fuelling terrorism (sundayheraldtalk)
September 30, 2006 11:55 PM
Two leaked reports, just one conclusion: the war on terror is fuelling terrorism
Neil Mackay investigates

‘The perception of Pakistan is very poor. We’re misunderstood’ - World Politics, World - The Independent]('The perception of Pakistan is very poor. We're misunderstood' | The Independent | The Independent)
‘The perception of Pakistan is very poor. We’re misunderstood’
By David Usborne in New York
Friday, 29 September 2006
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**You don't have to sell yourself.....when everything that you(Top People who are running the Show) own is not in Pakistan.............:biggthumb

a simple rule should apply to all Rulers and Wana Bee Rulers.........

Put your Money Where Your Mouth is.............:D
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Had you read Benazir's statements, who she was trying to please, guarantee to west what she'll do if she is handed over the power? Thats why Musharraf brought them in as he was losing popularity, people's support so he couldn't carry out all he wanted and there was always demand of "do more, do more, bend more, bend more". Sometimes he obliged and sometimes he didn't.

Because these agencies do not work against their elected Presidents/PMs where as ISI does. Specially when there is a democracy in Pakistan.

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^^ well democracy and the ISI are Pakistan internal matter, it doesnt have to be discussed with US.
and .... this discussion will not bring anything but shame to this government and Pakistan

Who is responsible for this? Isn't time that this problem is sorted out? ISI should be controlled by PM not PM is controlled by ISI. Choose your pick. Otherwise country will remain under chaos and anarchy and bring more shame.

Well said :k