People blame Zardari for limiting PPP to Sindh only. First it was mardood Zia-ul-Haq who killed the first Chairman of PPP and unleashed persecution on PPP people, destroyed PPP legarcy by destroying ZAB’s speeches and videos. Then he did party less elections to make sure PPP never participated in election process. After his brutal killing over Cholistan desert came his favorite NS who he groomed him for many years giving him first CM Punjab position. Then came IJI where ISI and former army Chief Mirza Aslam Beg paid moneys to staunch opponents of PPP to make sure PPP lost the elections at any cost. It is not Zardari who limited the role of PPP to Sindh which was once viable genuine national and popular party, it was the ARMY who limited PPP role to be regional. Just want to straighten out the facts as many media and politician b@st@rds blame Zardari for this loss to the country.
Now in 2019, FIA wants to close this famous case to make sure Zardari to be blamed in history for making PPP as Sindh’s party only.
A two-judge SC bench headed by the chief justice had taken up the implementation of the Oct 19, 2012 landmark verdict in which the apex court had ordered the federal government to initiate necessary action against former army chief retired Gen Aslam Beg and former director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) retired Lt Gen Asad Durrani for their role in dishing out Rs140 million to a particular group of politicians, including former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, during the 1990 general elections.
The judgement was issued on a constitutional petition filed in 1996 by the late Asghar Khan requesting the Supreme Court to look into the allegations that the ISI had financed many politicians in 1990.
In response to the petition, Lt Gen Durrani had submitted an affidavit giving details of the amount he had authorised on the alleged directive of Gen Aslam Beg to be paid among the politicians.
I think a bigger problem PPP is facing is the fact that Bilawal is turning into more of a Zardari, than a Bhutto. The reaosn the party looked up to him despite his age and inexperience, was because they wanted to see Benazir or ZAB in him (merits of that is a separate debate). But with his behavior over the past year, its clear that Bilawal has officially tilted towards the Zardari camp. That is a bigger red flag for the party than anything else. They will try to repeat the cycle of Zardari/Faryal by bringing in Asifa to tag along
I am sorry the only person who really destroyed the PPP is Zardari himself, the feat that Zia, and his cronies could’nt do, Zardardi accomplished with effortless ease.
We have discussed the merits of the argument on why PPP is in the state because of its performance but OP will never change his mind.
I do think that PTI is biting is too much than it can get chew with horse trading in Sindh. PTI is itself forgetting its fragile govt in the center.
Fawad chaudhry should have been replaced by Shireen Mazari a long time ago but I can bet that imran himself gets orgasmic highs due to his antics.
On the other hand, the establishment is back to its games of banning journalists like getting Geo to fire Talat Hussain for showing a nawaz sharif welcoming party in Lahore. He also recently posted a picture of the army / FC welcoming ASWJ to Waziristan.
It is beyond me why the establishment is hell bent on mainstreaming these extremist losers?
Do they not get that they will not be safe in their cantonments if these characters come to power?
See I’ve been against NS all the time for his wrongdoings but when he said “vote ko izzat do” I completely agreed. Nobody should bulldoze anyone’s mandate. Period.
But after the conquest in Punjab, PTI thinks it’ll reenact the same in Sind and it’ll be a dream come true for them.
and I know PPP has made Sind a sh!thole but it doesnt mean you rob their mandate. Governor Raj will only make PPP a mazloom party and they’ll eventually come out stronger.
On the contrary if PTI starts a public contact campaign in interior and resolve problems on social level, get a stronger opposition in Sind Assembly, they have a shot at next elections. But they probably want everything now thanks to great intellect minds like Faisa Wada and others.
It is the pakistani power syndrome where yes sir ji people makes power go to your head. It is even worse in IK case as seemingly the army is in sync with IK when ultimately, the army is always in sync with its own agenda.
It is akin to thinking that Trump is looking out for you when he only worships himself.
It looks like stuffing PTI with all the electables and expecting different results is a fool’s errand. It looks like the status quo will be maintained.
As someone said..its zardari himself to blame for the fall of PPP. Even bb’s time..he was basically cashing behind the back of his wife. He took political advantage to victimize his opponents. And not to mention his involvement in alleged fake bank accounts to launder money outside the country. I feel sorry for bilawal as he is bright and young politician but unfortunately..even he cant get away from fuedal politics.
This is yet to be proved in courts. In past he was 11 years in jail, not a single case proved him to be guilty. He came into picture because BB was killed under the nose of dictator. Most probably he was involved or he knew in advance she was going to be killed, like another dictator was involved in killing of ZAB. AAZ never victimized his opponents but his reputation was and still is that he played friendly opposition to PML(N) government. He is most cunning politician and typical face of Pakistan.
CJP has blown up these stupid plans of IK and his permanent lotay. Watch portion of Hab-e-Haal which gives a prompt response to the stupidity of permanent lotay. By the way how can I access to my thread of 2010 or 2011 "Permanent Lotay Joining Imran Khan? What I predicted more than seven years ago in this forum came true.
No sir. The thread was opened by me though AP was great contributor to this thread. Perhaps the thread has highest # of posts in discussions since inception of this forum in early 90’s. I found it. I started this thread in December of 2011. The total # posts in this thread are 2468, the last one was contributed by Mahool in July 30, 2018.
Why the hell he signed NRO from musharraf if he was innocent. Or another question, NRO from dictator? Everyone knows how corrupt he is. The only politics he knows is threatning and blackmailing his opponents. Heck he even tried threatening IK ke hamaray beghair hukumat nahi chal saktee. Which never worked and will never work.
Secondly, your use of word " most probably knew in advance" is correct because he is believed to be involved in murder of his wife. Shall i remind Murtaza bhutto as well?. Indeed cunning politician..well that sir i agree with you.
Can you link Zardari Signed NRO? According to Wikipedia “Furthermore, some analyst believe ‘US, the UK and Saudi Arabia underwrote a public amnesty which would enable popular politicians such as Benazir Bhutto to return to the country and counter the Taliban.’[SUP][6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconciliation_Ordinance#cite_note-6)”. Zardari came into Picture after murder of BB by dictator. Any way I am not discussing Zardari. If you want to open yet another thread on Zardari go ahead. My topic is restricting PPP to Sindh only by ISI. Read again what I am talking about:[/SUP]
‘Will not let Asghar Khan’s efforts go to waste’: SC decides against closing 2012 case](https://www.dawn.com/news/1456886/will-not-let-asghar-khans-efforts-go-to-waste-sc-decides-against-closing-2012-case)
The Supreme Court on Friday, a day after the family of late Air Marshal Asghar Khan opposed the closure of a case related to financial scams of the 1990s, summoned the defence secretary to apprise it of the status of cases against army officers allegedly involved in the case.
In 1996, Asghar Khan had filed a human rights petition in the SC, accusing the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of doling out money to a group of politicians in the 1990s.
The case was initiated by the air marshal after Benazir Bhutto’s interior minister, retired general Naseerullah Babar, had claimed in the National Assembly in 1994 that the ISI had disbursed funds to “purchase” the loyalty of politicians and public figures so as to manipulate the 1990 elections, form the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad (IJI), and bring about the defeat of the PPP.
Sixteen years after the petition was filed, the SC in its judgement ? penned by then chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry ? ruled that the 1990 general elections had been polluted by dishing out Rs140m to a particular group of politicians only to deprive the people of being represented by their chosen representatives.
According to the FIA report, 18 politicians in their statements submitted in the SC denied receiving the funds to allegedly manipulate the 1990 polls.
The agency has contended that the statements of witnesses recorded in the case so far had gaps and did not correlate with each other. Moreover, the investigation agency has also remained unsuccessful in securing financial records from the relevant banks since the matter is 24 years old.
Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar, while hearing the case today, questioned how the court could just dismiss its decision. “We will get further investigation done,” he asserted, adding that Salman Akram Raja would assist the court.
“How can this case proceed?” he asked. “A verdict has already been announced, but look what’s happening now, when it is time for implementation.”
Justice Nisar recalled that it had been suggested “that some individuals should be separated from the case”.
“That should not happen,” Raja said. “A man has said ‘I have distributed the money’,” he pointed out.
“We will not let Asghar Khan’s efforts go to waste,” Justice Nisar asserted. “The Asghar Khan family was not taken into confidence over the suggestion that the case be closed. If the FIA lacked the authority, it could have gotten the investigation done by another institution,” the chief justice added.
“When the verdict was announced, I met then-chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry,” the top judge recounted. “I said to Chaudhry that he had announced such a massive verdict that if the court now does nothing more, even that was enough.”
“The Asghar Khan and Asia Bibi case verdicts are historical,” Raja commented.
“A military court is trying the army officers who were involved. There is a separate trial against civilians,” the chief justice said. “The cabinet had said that a military court would try them (army officers). How can we reach a final conclusion after separate investigations?” he wondered.
“We don’t know what action the military has taken so far, why not summon a report from them too?” he suggested.
“Don’t get the impression that the military is beyond the jurisdiction of this court,” Justice Nisar said. “As the chief justice, I would like to tell them that all this is within our jurisdiction.”
“Why don’t we summon the defence secretary?” he suggested.
The court in today’s hearing decided that it was not satisfied with the conclusions reached by the FIA and asked the agency to submit a response to Khan’s family’s joint reply.
The SC also ordered that a notice be sent to the defence secretary and asked him to apprise the court on which army officer’s cases were sent to military courts and what progress had been made in the investigation. The court ordered the reply to be submitted in a week and adjourned the case until Jan 25.
Well bilawal bhutto Zardari is no different from all other politicians. 2 days ago a PPP leader’s lawn was bulldozed along with many other shops and offices of some other land grabbers in isb that were built illegally on Quaid-e-Adam university’e land. Bilawal came out in support of his party leader and called it an act of “political victimization”. It was not a shocker for me since i knew that all these politicians support their workers and leaders even if they are wrong… I would salute Bilawal if he had spoken against his party leader’s wrongdoing… but no, he is doing the same traditional **** politics which always comes up to rescue its people from the warth of justice… Bilawal is no exception… A typical politician.
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Well bilawal bhutto Zardari is no different from all other politicians. 2 days ago a PPP leader’s lawn was bulldozed along with many other shops and offices of some other land grabbers in isb that were built illegally on Quaid-e-Adam university’e land. Bilawal came out in support of his party leader and called it an act of “political victimization”. It was not a shocker for me since i knew that all these politicians support their workers and leaders even if they are wrong… I would salute Bilawal if he spoke against his party leader’s wrongdoing… but no, he is doing the same traditional **** politics which always comes up to rescue its people from the warth of justice… Bilawal is no exception… A typical politician.
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Do you think pakis have guts to speak against their party leaders? Can permanent lotay talk against IK?
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He was in jail for 11 years, not a single case was proved against him. The new cases are yet to be proved. Unless proven guilty, Zardari will be considered innocent. The thread is not about Zardari or BBZ but limiting PPP to Sindh only by ISI and military. I have given you proof for that.
By the way how can I access to my thread of 2010 or 2011 "Permanent Lotay Joining Imran Khan? What I predicted more than seven years ago in this forum came true.