I was listening to a radio talk the other day topic was the world trade centre.there was a guy who called in and said that the mosad(israel’s secret services) knew about those attacks.because thr were 4200 ppl most of them business owners did not show up on that day(they were jews)..but the thing that makes me angry is when the guy who called in was talking and giving logical points but the host wouldnt even let him talk beleive it or not the host started swearing at him and he just started saying ur wrong ur psycho ur nuts and other swears which i dont wanna mention (this was live radio talk).he did not let him finish his question and hung up..but b4 hanging up he just said that was a coincidence that they did nt show up..
wat my question is why is that when people talks about muslims everyones listens and joins the conversation but if someone talks about jews no one wants to hear .wat does that means do muslims have no feelings like jews or other non muslims ..those jews have control on everything in the states the media, politics,economy they are in control of everything .
and watever the host of that radio channel said about the coincidence ,it was far beyond coincidence..
Assalam o Alaikum!
Very true. Allah has said in the Qur'an that they are cursed and will always be doomed, except when they are helped by some other forces. But He has also said that they will become very strong before the end of this world, and the rule will be of Dajjal, who will be unjust.
From these we can draw parallels to the modern times.
As stated in the Qur'an and ahadeeth, Eesa (alaihe salam) will then come back and defeat Dajjal. All people will then believe in him and the Message.
Allah Hafiz
yes indeed the jews seem to control the usa and usa controls the world so indeed the jews are in power
the other day i was watching fox news which is also owned by mr rupert murdock a jew
and host of the proggrame hannity and colmes mr hannity was constantly given reference to some imaginary verse from quran which he said "Asked muslims to stay away from jews and christians and he was trying to brain wash the american people into beliving that.
so jews are indeed the devils mind
AoA,
not to ignore the jew control on media, finances and advisory in foreign affairs of US (the 'global cop').
AH
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
You guys sound like a bunch of Nazis
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Originally posted by ThePriest:
You guys sound like a bunch of Nazis
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Your categorisation is incorrect.
What did the nazis do? They killed Jews for some reason which is not discussed. He was not a madman as he is portrayed to be. He must have had some reason, even if it was beyond common reasoning.
Muslims dislike the Jews because Europe imposed them in Palestine and then they started encroaching on Palestinian lands and inviting Jews from all over to migrate to Israel.
If you are a Christian, tell me what was the role of the Jews in the crucifixion of Jesus (may Allah be pleased with him) and what do they belief about him.
this is not abt nazis wat nazis did thats a story of another time.its the jews now doing the same thing to muslims wat had happened to them b4 and during ww2.they have our land under control. wat we should do is call those radio stations to stop blaming muslims for watever happens to these westeran ppl fighting 4 your own land is not TERRORISM .i called that radio guy but he wouldnt even listen to wat i was saying ..he just hung up just like he always do when he doesnt have answers .so wat could one do about situation like that they wont let us talk they wont let us make our point ....were compelled to stay quite.and we are .....
Assalam o alekum,
yeah ppl, its bewildering to see the power of jews in america. Why no one criticizes them? Among the prominent reasons is that americans think that if they criticize jews they will be labelled anti-semite/nazi/etc. This can be seen in the media like cnn, jpost.com. Some weeks ago, Jerusalem post (jpost.com) labeled Danish FM anti-semite after he equated the assassination of israeli cabinet minister with the Israeli assassinations of Palestinian militants!.
Allah Hafiz
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Originally posted by ThePriest:
You guys sound like a bunch of Nazis
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Influence of the Jews is recognized by whole world. The jewish and zionist lobbies are one of the most power lobbies in the world. No one dares to point fingers on them.
This has nothing to do with fascism. Truth hurts.
“na maiN* momin vich masiitaa*N, na maiN* muusaa, na fir'aun!”
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Originally posted by ThePriest:
You guys sound like a bunch of Nazis
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One of my friends said the same thing this week but I asked how could it be possible and he said that normally if anyone speaks out against Jews he is considered anti-jew, nazi, anti-semantic (sp?).
and thats wat makes us mad about .why dont they call ppl anti muslim when ppl talk abt us.
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Originally posted by FactFinder:
** Your categorisation is incorrect.
What did the nazis do? They killed Jews for some reason which is not discussed. He was not a madman as he is portrayed to be. He must have had some reason, even if it was beyond common reasoning.
Muslims dislike the Jews because Europe imposed them in Palestine and then they started encroaching on Palestinian lands and inviting Jews from all over to migrate to Israel.
If you are a Christian, tell me what was the role of the Jews in the crucifixion of Jesus (may Allah be pleased with him) and what do they belief about him.**
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" It is the inexorable jew who struggles for his domination over the nations" Hitler Mein Kampf
"Everywhere one looks there are Jews. Jews rule all of Germany. What dishonor, that German workers both white collar and manual laborers, allow themselves to be harrassed by the Jews. Of Course because jews have the money... Germans should unite and fight against the jews....." Hitler in a speech in Munich 1920.
Yes my friend Hitler and the Nazis hated the Jews for the same reasons people writing in this forum do. So yes They sound very very similar to the Nazis.
And if you don't think that a man who will order the deaths of 6 million people in a gas chamber is a madman no wonder you defend people like Osama.
The reason why the Jews are there is the after affects of WWII so you can kind of blame Hitler for that one. (Not Directly)
I dont currently claim to belive in any one thing but I do know about the Christian Religion. Jesus being the Son of God was crucified by his own people and took on ALL sin( all meaning past present and future) Through the crucifiction he became the blood sacrifice needed to redeem man from all his sin if he had faith in Jesus. And I mean Faith not just belief like most pseudo Christians will tell you. Satan believes also. So therefore if he is the sacrifice for all mankind then he took on all our sin then our sin is what killed him and not just the jews. We all show similar attitudes towards god as the jews showed Jesus on that day.
So no Christians do not hate jews for killing Jesus because in theory we all did. Not supposed to hate in christianity anyway. Love your enemy and all that.
Ali_R how ya doin' I just figured I would point out the similarities between the opinions expressed here and the propaganda spewed by the Nazi party. What do you think the world would be like if Hitler could have actually won the war?
it was the jews who were the cause of world war 2
and they will be the responsible for world war3
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Originally posted by kabir:
it was the jews who were the cause of world war 2
and they will be the responsible for world war3
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LOL>>> ROFL your joking right? you don't really believe that? Are you really that Ignorant?
Thanks for the quotes. Your parallel is still distorted. We have nothing similar against the jews. The Americans and the Europeans will, in time to come. The Jews have a stranglehold on the entire west, similar to what they had in Germany. Then find out what the Roschild brothers did in the WW2. One was in England financing and purchasing ammunition, while the other was in Germany supplying it. That is the Jewish patriotism and commitment.
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There is a big difference between Osama and Hitler. The latter did it, while the former has been found guilty before the trial.
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The Jews are not there because of WW2 or Hitler. They were planted there by the British read Encarta Encyclopedia reference:
http://encarta.msn.com/find/concise.asp?ti=761575008&sid=33#s33
Relevant part reproduced for convenience:
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“In July 1922 the League of Nations, an alliance of world powers formed in 1920 to preserve peace, issued a mandate granting control over Palestine to Britain, entrusting it to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home. Encouraged by British support of the Zionist cause, waves of Jewish immigrants arrived in Palestine between 1919 and 1939, each contributing to the developing Jewish community (Yishuv). About 35,000 came between 1919 and 1923, mainly from Russia.”
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In this and other portions of the Encyclopedia you will find that anti-semitism has been prevalent for centuries. Romans, Russians, French, you name it and they will be there. Must be a reason for everybody to dislike them even though they are the ‘chosen people’.
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This is what your adultrated bible tells you. The Jews wanted to rid themselves of Jesus (may Allah be pleased with him) so they conspired with the Romans to have him killed. One of his companions also assisted (I forget the name). When the Romans came to the house, our belief is that God lifted him to the Heavens and made the traitor to look like him. The Romans thus crucified the traitor and Jesus did not die. So his sacrifice is a fallacy on which the Christians believe in salvation.
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FactFinder OK If you can categorize all jews by the actions of two jews then is it fair of me to call you a terrorist just because some muslims bombed embassies, the twin towers in 93 the many suicide bombings in Israel. Is it fair to call all Muslims terrorists just because a few are messed up in the head? No it isn't.
The only difference between the comments on this forum and the Nazi propaganda is that you don't claim that the white race is supreme.
Thanks for the lesson in history on the State of Israel.
I never said I believe any of that stuff in the bible I just spoke of what the Christian view of Jews were.
hey priest no one knows who did the embassy bombings ..and no one even have a clue who did the attacks on us ..everyones just guessing okay..and wat the lebanese people and the palestininans are doing(suicide bombing) in israel thats thr only way of fighting against the jews they dont have any tanks any helicopters,any sophisticated weopens ..give them tanks give them all the smart weapons ,hell they wont just give away thr life .a bunch of pakistani people did that back in 1965 war lying in front of enemy tanks .and giving thr life 4 there country thats wat the palestinians are doing but here we're talking about jews .so guess thats wat they call TERRORIST..
this might be very annoying to some people but i feel the same way jews do ..and im very pissed of at this time so i say whne they call muslims terrorist i say its all bull ****....( sorry 4 swearing)
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Originally posted by fakeer:
hey priest no one knows who did the embassy bombings ..and no one even have a clue who did the attacks on us ..everyones just guessing okay..and wat the lebanese people and the palestininans are doing(suicide bombing) in israel thats thr only way of fighting against the jews they dont have any tanks any helicopters,any sophisticated weopens ..give them tanks give them all the smart weapons ,hell they wont just give away thr life .a bunch of pakistani people did that back in 1965 war lying in front of enemy tanks .and giving thr life 4 there country thats wat the palestinians are doing but here we're talking about jews .so guess thats wat they call TERRORIST..
this might be very annoying to some people but i feel the same way jews do ..and im very pissed of at this time so i say whne they call muslims terrorist i say its all bull **....( sorry 4 swearing)**
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Fakeer I totally Agree with the Tactics of Terrorism. If I want to fight someone bigger than me I will not go up to him and hit him in the face, instead I will hit him in the back of the head with a brick. Only makes sense. I just brought up the point because you can't take the acts of a few to classify the many, it just doesn't work that way. Example: The Palestinians are freedomfighters and they are muslim does that make you a freedom fighter just because you are muslim? nope. Example2:Timothy Mcveigh bombed the Fed Building in Oklahoma he is an American and a terrorist does that make me a terrorist just because I am an American. I know you understand but I figured that I would explain my stance in a less agressive way.
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Its important not to generalize, whatever the situation.
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Originally posted by ThePriest:
If you can categorize all jews by the actions of two jews then is it fair of me to call you a terrorist just because some muslims bombed embassies, the twin towers in 93 the many suicide bombings in Israel. Is it fair to call all Muslims terrorists just because a few are messed up in the head? No it isn't.
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I did not categorise. I just gave an example to stress on what the beliefs of Jews are. They only look for money and power. That is what they did in Germany to make Hitler and the Germans do to them what they did. That is what they are doing now.
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The only difference between the comments on this forum and the Nazi propaganda is that you don't claim that the white race is supreme.**
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Incorrect. We blame the west for imposing them on Palestine to get them out of their backyard. And we blame the west for turning a blind eye to the atrocities they commit. Shabra and Shatila are examples.
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I never said I believe any of that stuff in the bible I just spoke of what the Christian view of Jews were. **
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The reason I emphasised about the erroneous views of Christians was to clarify. The Jews have been responsible for killing many Messengers and then being instrumental in changing the scriptures. The New Testament was written much after the time of Jesus (may Allah be pleased with him) and the autors included Jews. Even the changes in subsequent editions have been instigated by Jews or pro-Jewish sentiments.