Being an avid supporter of president Musharraf policies, I never envisaged myself infuriated beyond comprehension by the presidents biased approach to Pakistanis. Using the most polite phrase I can use “How dare he?” differentiate between common Pakistanis? And announce Rs 10,000 for all Jobless Balochi Pakistanis who are Post Graduates.
If Violence, ignorance, and terrorism are a way to intimidate the government, and get a monthly stipend of Rs 10,000 then I would urge every post graduate of NWFP, Sindh, and Punjab to take up arms against the government to secure a monthly stipend. Mr. President Please reconsider your abrupt and incoherent generousness, all Pakistanis are equal, no Pakistani is more equal than the other, its either all of us or none of us
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Diplomacy makes strange bed-fellows. You give some, you gain some. Its never a one way street. I believe the sense of aliention is stronger in Balochistan as compared to other regions. So he deemed this approach fit to tame and get ppl at his side. Doling out mere Rs 10,000 to those poor souls won't lift them from poverty over night and I do not think its the right approach to address issues. While countless Pakistani's sleep without food or shelter, while millions roam jobless on the streets; remember the priority of the government at this hour is not those seething millions but Balochis for they have not only lagged behind but are conspicious by their absence (as in representation) in major institutions of the nation. There should be something done to bring ' a semblance of equality' if nothing else in that region.
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^^ Yup! You convince me...you are Right...Humm
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Balochis on a whole have generally been ignored and treated as 2nd class citizens through the history of Pakistan, kinda like how aboriginals and natives (the real Americans) have been treated in the Americas.
Rs 10,000 (200$) is hardly anything worth talking about. Just like in Canada native indians do not have to pay taxes on alot of trivial things. Its the government saying yeah we admit we we fk'd you over so here have some candy.
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Rs 10,000 (200$) is hardly anything worth talking about. Just like in Canada native indians do not have to pay taxes on alot of trivial things. Its the government saying yeah we admit we we fk'd you over so here have some candy.
true, those belonging to the 'oppressing' class(involved or not) rarely like it when those oppressed recieve a few scraps.
In addition,check in 2 yrs time, this promise will be another one fallen to the side, unaccomplished.
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Secondly, I don't think that they really have any love for a particular ethnic group or for any of those splatterd across the length and breadth of Pakistan. Whether one lags behind or progresss, this has never been on the state's priority list ever.Hence, this development work is not for the upliftment of the folks living there but to develop the port and hence in order to make its execution smooth and tension-free they need to bring the outlaws and recalcitrant elements under their control.
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QUETTA, Jan 9: The Balochistan Education Foundation with the financial assistance of the World Bank is planning to open 200 community schools in the province, while funds have been released for the establishment of seven cadet colleges in different areas of Balochistan.
It was informed in a meeting presided over provincial chief secretary K.B. Rind here. The meeting reviewed progress on various development schemes funded by the federal government and foreign donor agencies in the province.
It was further informed that the federal government was spending Rs200 billion on various development projects, including small and big dams, canals and education schemes in Balochistan.
According to sources, officials concerned informed the meeting that the Balochistan Education Foundation was planning to establish another 100 private primary schools in different districts of the province.
They said that in the first phase cadet colleges would be established in Qila Saifullah, Jaffarabad and Panjgur, while in the second phase four cadet colleges would be set up in Nushki, Gwadar, Kohlu and Sibi.
The meeting was informed that work was in progress on the middle school project with the financial assistance of a Japanese bank.
The irrigation secretary informed the meeting that the Subakzai dam project was nearing completion.
He said the government had decided to construct 43 small canals, while PC-1 had been prepared for the expansion of Pat Feeder, Hairdin and Kerther canals.
He said that the fusibility of Ajram dam would be completed by June this year, while consultants had already been appointed for Hingol, Nolang, Zorati, Winder and Tankay dams. He said further that work on the Rs560 million Chagai water project was in progress.
Secretaries of other departments also presented reports on various development projects.
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First time, they're getting something from the govt (which is nothing) and its bothering you.
Imagine, how much bothered they are. They've been ignored since 1947. On top of that, we treated them like we would treat terrorists.
They deserve much more than this recommended amount.
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Instead of paying out a dole which is somewhat degrading in itself, can't the money be used to create some development in the region?
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exactly.
this 10,000 would buy them nothing.
I'm sure our govt. is not that stupid. They are educated people - howcome they don't understand it. Its just selfish people running the govt.
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in principle, i'm against any form of quota/positive discrimination, but i don't oppose this decision.
if federal govt. can pay millions to sardars, why can't they pay directly to people according to some set criterion? this is a short-term measure, and should not be considered a permanent solution. however, govt. is doing a lot of development work in the province and people should not deny that.
unfortunately 50 years of neglect cannot be undone in 5 years. that's why i'm in favor of this form of positive discrimination for baloch people. nobody is being forced to accept the money. instead of considering it a stipend or dole, we can also look at it as unemployment allowance, which unfortunately is not available to the unemployed youth in other provinces. (nevertheless, the permanent solution is creation of suitable jobs for our educated youth.)
it will also encourage the youth in the province to acquire higher education, which in turn will prove beneficial for both pakistan and balochistan.
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screw this
when my grandparents arrived in pakistan after independence, having left all the owned behind, having lost relatives in the blood baths along the way, they did not whine about entitlement, they lived family of 11 and 12 respectively in 2 bedroom flats in old city and a 2 room house in drigh colony (shah faisal colony),
my nana, a teahcer, rode his bicycle to grand folks school from drigh colony every friggin day, rain or shine, my dad studied outdoors under street lamps, slept at the homes of his friends or on the roof or patio of the house of the many kids he tutored, because the family took care of even less fortunate relatives.
My dada, an engineer/architect took whatever work he could find..
and u know what, there were no govt handouts, these guys did not fookin whine, they worked their butts off and studied like hell, did odd jobs, sold halwa at melas..
I am proud to say that of my dads total 9 siblings, they all got into successful careers... contractor, farmer/contractor, pharmacist, doctor, engineer, doctor, scientist, teacher, chartered accountant
and of my moms 10 total siblings banker, teacher, teacher, teacher, teacher, (whoa too many teachers), computer programmer, business executive, computer programmer, teacher, teacher (yeah kinda heavy on teachers)
and the next generation did just as well. actually better..but we had a good launching pad for us built on the hard work, sacrifice and work ethics of our parents..
where is the fookin bailout money for those people. what was so different? right priorities, effort, sacrifice..
cuz surely they did not get any handouts.
oh yeah one thing working for them was that the were not in some idiotic tribal system where the sardars wanted them to be jahil and oppressed.
This story is not unique...ask ppl in karachi, almost anyone whose family migrated from India would tell you the same story.
and then we have people who feel they are marginalised .... come on man, i mean come on...this is ridiculous.
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Your family went through some very tough times and i commend them for that. But they had one thing that the balochis didnt and still dont, more than 50 years later: opportunity. The government did develop Karachi and sindh and punjab in general more than it has ever spent on Balochistan... which has always been treated as the retard bastrad kid.
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Balochistan is our largest province and supplies Pakistan with its Energy and Natural Resources. It is located in a strategic area from where it will generate revenue for Pakistan through the Gwadar Port and the Highway from trade with China and Central Asian countries.
Balochistan and the Balochi people should be at the forefront of development and modernization.
Pakistan should build schools, upgrade the roads and sewer systems, build universities, hospitals, improve the supply of gas and electricity, get better irrigation equipment so that the Balochi can put their vast land to use and grow food and generate revenue.
Pakistan has started to do all this and I applaud Musharraf for taking the 1st step towards this.
This 10,000 sum is peanuts.
I hope that 50% of all the Revenue generated from Gwadar Port goes to Balochistan and NWFP to their development.
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If one really needs to see the pathetic conditions of our balouch brothers, he should visit Hub Industrial area! Their backwardness is more due to their own leaders and clan cheifs and not due to other people injustices! The local workers - most of them do not want to work! They just want salary! So the industries has to appoint workers from elsewhere! They appoint local ghunndas who save them from the other local ghunndass!
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very familiar with the area, my dad’s company was doing work in Hub and I heard first hand the type of issues tehy faced, the locals not only did not want to work, they actually did not want the projects to take place, we are talking stuff as far back as mid 80’s. If people are actively against progress, and then whine that they dont have opportunities, then much of it is their own doing.
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on an individual level, no handouts were given, nor demanded, people worked against all odds, to reestablish themselves and to rebuilt their lives.
I do agree that balochistan has not had as much support as it should have, the sardars needed to be taken out decades ago, because they built empires on the backs of poor locals, kept them illiterate and unskilled so the onstop supply of servants does not end. This should have been tackled ages ago. I say one good step by taking outone of those idiots, take out anyone who does not get the message that they can not continue to suppress locals under their sardaari thumb.
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So it is once again feudalism we are up against. Eradicate it from everywhere.. Balochistan Sindh Punjab and Sarhad / Khyber and Pakistan would be such a better place.
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fuedals, mullahs and military..i dunno man, we seem to be stuck in this quagmire
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The military isnt that bad compared to our other options i.e. democratically elected (pff yeah right) politicians who have a habit of raping the country's treasury and they dont even lube up. We saw muhajirs in power we saw sindhis in power we say punjabis in power.. all suck ass. Desi people are easily corrupted and this is mainly due to lack of education, in my opinion.
Education is something thats being held back from the population thanks to our feudal lords. Get rid of them, educate people and things could change.