Post election scenario Jan 2008

Inspite of dictators best efforts to rig the election and doing utmost to save his illegal regime, the post election scenario does not look very bright for him…and specially for MQM>>>>

I think PPP, ANP and PML (N) will make a coalition government in the centre…I see Amin Faheem as the next P.M. of the country…

PML (Q) and MQM will form the opposition…It’s good for PML (Q) as if they want to become a serious political party five years in opposition will do them good…biggest losers are going to MQM as they are going to lose political cover for all sort of terrorist/illegal activities…Karachiites watch out as these goons can push Karachi back to 90s like situation again…

Punjab government will be formed by PPP, PML (N) coalition with CM nominated by PML (N)…most probably Shehbaz Sharif will become Punjab CM after getting elected in a byelection>>>

Sindh government will be formed by PPP/Independents coalition with PPP nominating CM

NWFP government will be formed by PPP/PML-N/ANP coalition with ANP nominating CM…
JUF will be major opposition party with PML-Q…

Baluchistan will be as unpridictable as usual with any kind of coalition forming after elections…

Musharaf will resign and leave the country to settle with his son in Boston…

Judges will not be reinstated…however judiciary will become somewhat free>>>

Imran/Qazi/Aitzaz will continue their opposition outside assemblies>>>

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I hope you’re right, but here is depressing scenario. Just imagine Mushrraf hanging around for another 25 years.

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/249669.html

Mr Hosni Musharraf
Husain Haqqani
Posted online: Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 0000 hrs Print Email
Politically, is Pakistan going the Egypt way?

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Musharraf’s language and demeanour are the same as that of Egypt’s ruler Hosni Mubarak at the time of the 1987 elections for the Egyptian parliament. Twenty years later, Mubarak is still in power and the Egyptian people still have no real choice between leaders.

Egypt is a nation of a thousand NGOs and several political parties but there is no serious political challenge to Mubarak’s authority. Mubarak marginalised the real opposition, allowed western funded NGOs to work within pre-defined spheres, and has regularly held elections without allowing alternation in power.

Musharraf’s guns are trained on Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif for a reason. Having served as prime ministers, the two are visible reminders that Pakistan can be ruled by someone other than Musharraf. Once they are out of the way, Musharraf can follow Mubarak in holding election after election, changing rules and judges as often as he likes, and control the country with the help of the security services and large amounts of US aid.

Incidentally, Mubarak (who started out as an air force general) has been a civilian and out of uniform for the last 25 years but that has not eased the grip of the military and the intelligence services on Egypt’s polity. Musharraf’s decision to continue to live in ‘army house’ after ostensibly handing over command to General Ashfaq Kayani reflects his desire to be Pakistan’s Mubarak.

The holding of free and fair elections is not a technical issue; it is a matter of intent. A ruler or government that has no intention of sharing or transferring power is unlikely to hold free and fair elections.

Most of the fix for the coming elections is already in — manipulated voters’ lists, gerrymandering, intimidation of opposition candidates and arm-twisting of local influentials to support the king’s party. The rigging will be selective on election day, outside of the view of foreigners and the media as far as possible.

The primary purpose of the regime would be to influence the outcome both in terms of who gets elected and how many seats each party gets. Thus, the opposition might get a significant number of seats but individuals with an independent mind could be made to lose.

After the elections, a second round of manipulation will take place to create factions within each party and to manage a pliant coalition. This would be similar to what happened in 2002. A coalition cobbled together in the same manner as 2002 after a fraudulent election euphemistically described as ‘flawed but acceptable’ by the US government will not advance democracy in Pakistan.

If the ban on a twice-elected prime minister running for a third term is not lifted, there will be no real choice for Pakistanis because then Musharraf would be able to appoint anyone he likes as prime minister.

Musharraf’s desire to exclude Bhutto and Sharif and thereby pave the way for choosing a prime minister himself is another sign that he is following the Hosni Mubarak role model. But while Musharraf may want to emulate the Egyptian model, Pakistani civilians will not roll over and play dead. Prolonged unrest might follow a rigged poll in Pakistan.

By failing to understand the differences between the political history and aspirations of Egypt and Pakistan, Musharraf might be risking considerable and prolonged unrest in trying to emulate Mubarak.

The writer is director of Boston University’s Center for International Relations [email protected]

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Well this analysis can be true as one can never predict the tyrant....however my speculation is based on the fact that he is significantly weakend after retiring from the army....also in the past few months things haven't really gone his way and was forced to take some decisions contrary to his liking>>>

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I think in this elections MQM will again win all the major seats in Karachi and Hyderabad - the ones it lost to other parties in 2002. But will loose its bargaining power as the seats will be divided among major parities.

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I agree with you Mostar....the problem is not if they will win 1/2 seats more or less....the problem is when they lose political cover for their illegal/terrorist activities....they push country and specially Karachi in to a very violent situation ....looking at the present scenario if MQM has to spend next five years in opposition.....being terrorist in nature I am afraid they will push Karachi back to 90s like situation>>>

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Well Nawaz and Shebaz are obviously out of the running.. yet they are still planning on running.. Dont know what they are expecting??!?!

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This time they will not sit in the opposition and join the governement again whoever wins the election.

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Actually this can be a very good situation for the country....in this case Sindh government can also be very stable....let's hope they can come out of the shadow of the terrorist dictator who ordered 12th may killing of innocent people....it will facilitate also to put the dictator on trial for all his crimes against the country

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During the last four years they have seen the benefits of being into the governement - the people who could not buy a bicycle are now roaming in luxury cars. They will never like to loose them!

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yazdi your assumptions are pretty in correct. PML-N will not make any mark in this elections only may be as 3rd or 4rth party
PML-Q, PPP will have similar seats with a chance of PML-Q getting slightly more than PPP.
ANP will be major one in NWFP and will form govt there.
MQM will again be same seats in khi and haiderabad.
PML-N will have few seats maybe equal to MQM

future govt can be
PMLQ +MQM+ANP
PML-Q + PPP +MQM

PML-n is bound to be in opposition in all scenarios

Punjab - PML-Q
NWFP ANP or PML-Q +Fazal
Sindh - PPP or all against PPP join hands to oust them.
Balochistan - a mixture or wannabe in the Govt anything possible.

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First of all I dont think MQM will ever sit in Opposition. If needed one visit of BB or NS to “90” can do the trick and MQM will be happy to join them in Govt as they dont have any real “agenda” to push and I bet NS and BB will be more than willing to do that.

Secondly though that “NA and BB can form collation govt” can only make me laugh ! I dont even feel a naeed to argu on this as HASHAR NASHAR of ARD, COD (Charter of Democracy), APDM and COD (Charter of Demand) is in front of all of us!

Meaning? Mush will continue to take Pakistan towards new heights of development ! :jhanda:

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well theres allready an offical elections topic,

pmln have no chance, there popularity is at an all time low. PMLQ will take majority of punjab.

in sindh ppp will win majority and mqm will just get big centers like karachi and hyderbad.

the future goverment will be PMLQ - PPP - ANP

with pmlq selecting the prime minister who will most probably be parviaz elahi, unless musharraf wants humayun aktar.

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Can you quote the poll/source which shows PML N at lowest popularity and PML Q at all time high populaity…IPOP poll has already been proven a fraud. IRI and other polls are suggesting Musharraf and PML Q very low in public opinion. IRI poll suggests PML Q in third position at the moment…well this thread is to concentrate on post poll scenario…you can continue with your election discussion as you want in official election topic>>>

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp…-12-2007_pg1_5

Musharraf popularity poll exposed as Internet fraud

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: A public opinion poll that suggested an increase in President Pervez Musharraf’s popularity since he stepped down as army chief and became a civilian president has one major flaw: the US-based organisation that claims to have conducted the poll does not exist.

A press release issued last week claimed that according to a survey conducted by the US-based International Public Opinion Polls (IPOP), 74 percent of those surveyed had said that Pervez Musharraf would get a boost in popularity as civilian president.

The comprehensive directory of polling and survey research organisations in the United States does not list any organisation by the name of IPOP. Other than the alleged Pakistan survey, IPOP has never conducted any other polls according to its website, information confirmed through an Internet search. The IPOP website (www.ipublicpolls.com) carries no organisational details of IPOP. The PDF version of the poll posted on the website says that IPOP is located in Boston, Massachusetts, and gives its zip code as 02106, which does not exist on the US Post Office’s website.

The press release also claimed that the survey was conducted in Pakistan’s major cities via internet and telephone. Given the relatively limited access to the internet and landline telephone service in Pakistan, the methodology cited remains suspect. The IPOP poll also came up with the finding that 55 percent of those surveyed wanted Pakistan’s political parties to take part in an election under civilian President Pervez Musharraf.

Many newspapers carried the poll received via email. However, Daily Times did not publish it.

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Well you can laugh as much as you want …it’s good for your health>>>

  1. BB will never accept Musharraf given an opportunity as Musharraf will always continue to threaten her..

  2. BB and Chaudryies can not get along together…Chaudry Shujaat still keeps the pen with which Zia ul Haq wrote Bhutto’s death warrant…as a family treasure>>>

  3. BB would like to take along NS with her because he is in a weak situation as long as elections are held under Musharraf and will be the main target of criminal tyrant’s rigging plan>>>

  4. Atleast they are flirting for somtime now with different charters, BB/Mush/Chaudry can not even flirt for the reasons known to all..

I do understand your strong desire to see the criminal in power for next 5 years for you continue chanting your God blesses, but logically speaking this scenario is highly unlikely…I see Mush going considering the weak position he is in…and if God forbids he is able to survive somehow as you are suggesting we are going to see a Hitler like leader in Pakistan for next many years…

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Personally I think if both of them want to become leaders in the long run.....without the shadow of a criminal....it will be a good chance for them.....to sit in opposition for 5 years>>>