Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

It certainly had its moments. After witnessing a complete demise of top-order batsmen, as almost the first half of the deck took turns in beating each other back to the pavilion, an ultimate question hanged in the balance: Where did Pakistan go wrong? At which point and place in history did we completely and utterly lost all of the pages from the cricketing book, so much so that some of the instances reminded us of childhood days and ‘galli muhalla’ cricket? Was it specifically the preparation of the pitch that was tailored in such a way that it solely favored the attacking bowlers and nothing else, or was it designed to help both sides of the wicket but the bowlers extracted maximum advantage and used it in their favor?

From what it seemed to me (after watching a clip of the hat-trick), Butt’s dismissal was completely an unplayable delivery. I believe Arun Lal was doing commentary at that moment in time, and he mentioned that any top-order batsman of the world would have found that ball next to impossible. The next two deliveries followed almost the exact same pattern, and as from my point of view, they were very hard to get through as well (Although Yousuf’s dismissal is a tricky one, with a huge gap between his bat and pad. The ball beautifully swung into the right-hander, similar to the previous two deliveries). With the above mentioned, was the Indian bowling too good for us in the early stages, or did we (once again) fell victim to the hyper-pressure that was created all around us? Did our batsmen threw their wickets away too sheepishly, or the deliveries that were bowled to them were almost impractical and unattainable to play with?

Although Pakistan did manage to glue the spectators’ back into their seats by snatching few quick top-order wickets, please note that I am specifically refering to first innings ‘collapse’ here, and the ultimate reason/theory behind it. Was our experience from today enough to stamp on the envelope that we should prepare ‘sporting’ ( or FAST AND BOUNCY, as some might call it :slight_smile: ) wickets in the future? Also, I have raised this question before, and I will raise it again as well. Is it already the time for neutral curators to start the supervision of pitches? As we all know, such a surface that we have viewed today might very well have stemmed from the fact that PCB had a gigantic hole of pressure on them to prepare a ‘resulting’ wicket, hence today’s play as such. If there would have been equal amount of helping pitches (to both sides of the wicket) back in previous two test matches, we might not have seen a lateral collapse such as we did, which, again, implies the question from above. Should the entire cricketing industry hand over the home field advantage to a bunch of ‘professionals’ who promise to hold and maintain the true definition of test cricket, or should this issue be completely brushed aside?

Comments/Concerns/Questions/Opinions?

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

I cant say much but the only thing which annoys me that y the hell they did not picked asim kamal instead of Faisal Iqbal. I think he is the only poor guy who did got any back power behind him.

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

the same thing would have happend to india but dhoni would of saved the day

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

I've written it in all threads for the past 2 matches ...... stop making a mockery of test cricket ....... PCB thought if wicket r batsmen friendly and our batting heros go on to slaughters India then ppl would turn to watch the carnage ...... however they forget to realize that it's India as opponent and not ENG or NZ ...... if u can their bowlers on such tracks then they can hit ur bowlers on such tracks ......

But the biggest crime is to offer no variety of wickets which atleast suit bowlers (not only ur own bowlers) to test ur own batsmen when exposed to a bit of alien condition ....... that's TEST CRICKET and not the farce at Lahore and Faisalabad ....... do u guys see Pakistan doing well in England, NZ, AUS or SAF if we keep on playing such tracks ......

Wake up and see the performance of ur most accomplished batsmen ....... Only the 3 of them have shown what it needs to cope with certain difficult conditions ...... so let them practice and play on more "Phatta" wickets for nothing

If u do well on real bouncy, green top and dust bowls r then u r a test level batsmen ....... and not when u see a tinge of gras and u yellow-brown ur test-whites

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

the batsman relaxed a little too,after piling up runs in lahore n faisalabad

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

To me, the batsmen were casual while playing wonderful deliveries from Pathan. Younis has tendency on trying to play a shot on first ball, why can't he try to block first ball? esp knowing that its just first over of the match! Yousuf couldn't handle the swing at all, there was wide gap between bat and pad. Afridi was doing the same (as Yousuf). Faisal Iqbal knew ball is swinging still he wanted to "pad" a ball. Imran Farhat was stupid as you can get, knowing so many people fell to swinging deliveries goes and plays an away from body outswinger. Too many players committed a blunder on same day while the bowlers extracting best out of the conditions!

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"


Reading the above, would you cast your vote in favor of neutral curators in International Cricket, knowing that the host captain and coach give out the final word in the preparation of surfaces, and given the fact of the nature of the pitch in past two test matches, implementing such a strategy throughout the world would ensure that the definition of test cricket lives upto its expectations, in all parts of geographic zones?


I would agree with your analysis as well. This tendency of Younis Khan seems bitterly awkward, especially in these types of situations. Furthermore, I also parallel your thoughts in indicating that bowlers did try their best to extract the maximum from the wicket in the early stages of the match.

One thing I do like to point out is, while watching Straight Drive, Waqar specifically mentioned that there was a real-world genuine opportunity for India to dismiss Pakistan for a modest and reasonable score after reducing them to 39-6, however, he (Waqar) expressed concern in their bowling abilities and the lack of an express bowler who can consistently bowl at or above 145+ mph, and moreover, went on to advert that by having one such pacer in their bowling line-up would definitely have made a world of difference.

Thoughts on above?

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

I'll disagree with that, we have seen with time and time again that its not just the pace a bowler needs, its how you mix it along with swing, variety, seam etc. Shabbir, Umar Gul, Pathan, Zaheer, Balaji, McGrath have all shown that you can get the job done with decent pace. I don't know what pace Indian bowlers were bowling at but we can all see the result, we were 39/6 but when pitch eased out and you have determined players like Kamran placing the ball around then there isn't much that pace would give you. If you put old horses to face pace then you might be able to get better results but counting on that wouldn't be right.

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

i dont think there wud be so much cry about it if we were not 0/3....
had salman scored 20, younis 40, yusuf 40, kamran 30, shoaib 28 (there total score still being same as what they have now 0+0+0+113+45), and then india were 72/4, i dont think anyone wud be complaining....

its just those 0s and 1s in the scorecard which makes ppl think we have done horribly bad....

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

i felt they lost all concentration

Re: Post-Day 1 Discussion: "Where did Pakistan go wrong?"

especially muhammad yousuf how can u be playing a shot when facing a hatrick ball