in 1990 when Iraq Invaded Kuwait... it have a standing army of One Million, chemical and biological weapons and lots of Russian stuff... but was still destroyed and sent back to Stone Age and then completely destroyed...
same could have done to Pakistan... please keep in mind that Iraq had huge oil reserves and it somehow managed to keep the things on move by selling it in the black market....
Pakistan 'may have' been turned into a stone-age, yes, but Pakistan didn't turn into a heavenly-like country in aftermath either. Our 'think tanks' only saved us from apparent bombing, but not from hidden bombing. If we were going to offer our behind anyways, then we could've have bargained for much more, put conditions in favor of the country. Our tin-commando gave in too quick.
Pakistan 'may have' been turned into a stone-age, yes, but Pakistan didn't turn into a heavenly-like country in aftermath either. Our 'think tanks' only saved us from apparent bombing, but not from hidden bombing. If we were going to offer our behind anyways, then we could've have bargained for much more, put conditions in favor of the country. Our tin-commando gave in too quick.
Do you know that Pakistan in 2002 became first country in the world who started billing USA and NATO (coalition forces) for the services (use of Pakistani land for transportation, military backing at border, and intelligence support)?
In Zia time, USA gave nothing other than aid and loan. During Musharraf time, ingenuous decision to charge NATO for services mean, no aid or loan, or begging, but honest earning. This way, USA gave little bheek (aid and loan), but had to pay more than billion dollar a year as part of service to coalition forces, and is still paying huge amount every year ... thus USA had to create coalition support fund for the purpose. Other countries also paid Pakistan in this respect.
Till now, maybe around 20 to 25 billion dollars or more is paid to Pakistan this way, mostly during Zardari and Nawaz government. In past USA used to give some bheek making a country their paid servant, but since coalition support payments are not aid or loan ... in other words alm (bheek or khairat), Pakistan demands that payment, telling USA that how to spend what Pakistan gets as coalition support payment is Pakistani right too (at least that was done till Musharraf was in power), and occasionally negotiated higher payment threatening that they would stop service if not appropriately paid for the service.
So, I think we should come out of asking bheek and khairat from USA ... rather demand what we work for as happens in countries that do not need bheek and khairat.
Mostly during z and nawaz government? Nawaz....Really?
Do you know that Pakistan in 2002 became first country in the world who started billing USA and NATO (coalition forces) for the services (use of Pakistani land for transportation, military backing at border, and intelligence support)?
In Zia time, USA gave nothing other than aid and loan. During Musharraf time, ingenuous decision to charge NATO for services mean, no aid or loan, or begging, but honest earning. This way, USA gave little bheek (aid and loan), but had to pay more than billion dollar a year as part of service to coalition forces, and is still paying huge amount every year ... thus USA had to create coalition support fund for the purpose. Other countries also paid Pakistan in this respect.
Till now, maybe around 20 to 25 billion dollars or more is paid to Pakistan this way, mostly during Zardari and Nawaz government. In past USA used to give some bheek making a country their paid servant, but since coalition support payments are not aid or loan ... in other words alm (bheek or khairat), Pakistan demands that payment, telling USA that how to spend what Pakistan gets as coalition support payment is Pakistani right too (at least that was done till Musharraf was in power), and occasionally negotiated higher payment threatening that they would stop service if not appropriately paid for the service.
So, I think we should come out of asking bheek and khairat from USA ... rather demand what we work for as happens in countries that do not need bheek and khairat.
Here is graph showing payment to Pakistan from USA. Graph shows current dollar, that means … inflation adjusted. In other words … if graph shows 1 billion dollar in 2002 than actual payment was 757 million dollars (as 757 million dollars in 2002 is one billion 2014 dollars). In graph, you can see payment jump after Musharraf was gone (2008 onward). It seems, extra payment for dramatic increase in drone strikes during Zardari and Nawaz period.
It was absolutely the right decision, people can say whatever but doesn't change the fact that Pakistan had no other option. If it was Sharif or Zardari or even Imran for that matter instead of Musharaff, they would have done exactly the same.
It was absolutely the right decision, people can say whatever but doesn't change the fact that Pakistan had no other option. If it was Sharif or Zardari or even Imran for that matter instead of Musharaff, they would have done exactly the same.
I believe Zardari would have gotten us a better deal [unless facing a huge intervention from military]. At least he wouldn't have said 'Yes, Sir' blindly to anything coming from Washington.
Yes, we had no choice but to 'cooperate' but we didn't have to act like a satellite state either.
Pakistan 'may have' been turned into a stone-age, yes, but Pakistan didn't turn into a heavenly-like country in aftermath either. Our 'think tanks' only saved us from apparent bombing, but not from hidden bombing. If we were going to offer our behind anyways, then we could've have bargained for much more, put conditions in favor of the country. Our tin-commando gave in too quick.
True not heavenly-like country but ask Iraqi, Libyans, Syrians, Iranians ( yes iranian, if you can speak persian fluently)... they would prefer Pakistan over their stone-aged country any day...
we have lost 60,000 lives... and yes lots of terrorism... but not carpet bombing and invasions and american troops on ground... Our country may have 1000s of flaws but still we can fly back there... still we can talk to over families back home... still we can think of moving back... you would have lost that entirely...
If you have something then you can work on it to perform better... and it is 100 times better of not having something and crying about it...
Now we blame Bhutto for slapping Polish delegation in UN for purposing peaceful solution and he said he'll fight for 1000 year if needed and then in 10 days 90,000 trained men surrendered and remaining pleaded to world power to stop India... same would have been the case here
