Pork is haram in Islam

[Ali_R]

Originally posted by SADI:
**Ali_R: Sorry I have been busy so thats why I did not tell you my name, Ins’Allah I will PM you in some time.
Are you sure about this report and where did you get this information can you plz put the source of your information.

[This message has been edited by SADI (edited August 25, 2001).]**

Im very sure about it i saw a documention film on ORF 2 there they told this. At least all products in EC are made of cows gelatine.
Hmmm ill be waiting for your PM til then take care khuda hafiz.
Dont worry this is a true source…i tell you its true, so you eat your GUMMIBÄRLIS without been guilty conscience

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[honestali]

Will it be allright if I called some people HARAMKHOR or HARAMI if

1) Someone who called themself muslim but do not follow Quran
2) Currupt
3) Higckers ( civilian plane)
4) Drug Traffickers
5) Killers of innocent civilians under the name of Jihad
6) Alcol drinkers, Wominizer,Thief,
7) Obtaining immigration under falsified papers
8) Collecting welfare and working for cash

I belive Pakistan is full with such peoples
How you can called these Harami's as Muslims?

Is it not a insult to Islam?

[zawiyaefikr]

Hasanali
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it most certainly is. But you cant do/preach a wrong by qouting another wrong. All of the attributes you mentioned are most definately not that of a Muslim, just like eating pork takes you out of the folds of Islam.

[sholay]

Honestali

You are not in a position or authority to judge anyone. This is Allahs responsibility.

Furthermore, please refrain from calling people Harami - ie *******s, just because they do not fit your ideology.

Stick to the topic in hand!!!!

[Ali_R]

Honestali,

who says they do it for fun?!!?
Ppl are tied down...they have to think of surviving each and every day.
mo' matters.
The same happens every where and in every religion. Still we consider them as christian, muslim, hindu or whatever religion they belong to.

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[This message has been edited by Ali_R (edited August 26, 2001).]

[SADI]

Honestali: dear what are you trying to prove ? I dont think that Pakistan is full of such people, the majority is not corrupt or whatever you may call them. If you are from Pakistan you are doing no good making your own homeland and people look bad. These kind of people that you mentioned are the ones who are unscrupulous and reckless they exist everywhere, you may find them at every corner of this world and not only in Pakistan. You may know that this world is a temporary one and the good and bad deeds that each and everyone of us is doing in this world will be judged at other world.

[SADI]

Honestali Please read this !!!
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WHY PORK IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM

A lot of people misconstrue Islam's forbiddance of pork consumption as mere
here say but it's actually based on real medical facts as illustrated below. The following was discovered many centuries ago upon the dawn of Islam but no logical explanation was ever offered on the rule...until now.

If you pour Coke (yes, the soda!) on a slab of pork, and wait a little while, you will SEE Worms crawl out of it.

A message from the Health Corporation of Singapore about the Bad effects of pork consumption.

Pig's bodies contain MANY TOXINS, WORMS and LATENT DISEASES. Although some of these infestations are harbored in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far MORE PREDISPOSED to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because PIGS like to SCAVENGE and will eat ANY kind of food, INCLUDING dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, reta (including their own), garbage, and other pigs.

INFLUENZA (flu) is one of the MOST famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is harbored in the LUNGS of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and humans in the cooler months.

Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so THOSE who EAT pork sausage tend to SUFFER MORE during EPIDEMICS of INFLUENZA. Pig meat contains EXCESSIVE quantities of HISTAMINE and IMIDAZOLE compounds, which can lead to ITCHING and AMMATION; GROWTH HORMONE which PROMOTES INFLAMMATION and growth; sulfur
containing mesenchymal mucus which leads to SWELLING! and deposits of MUCUS in tendons and cartilage, resulting in ATHRITIS, RHEUMATISM, etc.

Sulfur helps cause FIRM human tendons and ligaments to be replaced by the
pig's soft mesenchymal tissues, and degeneration of human cartilage. Eating
pork can also lead to GALLSTONES and OBESITY, probably due to its HIGH CHOLESTEROL and SATURATED FAT content. The pig is the MAIN CARRIER of the TAENIA SOLIUM WORM, which is found in its flesh. These tapeworms are found
in human intestines with greater frequency in nations where pigs are eaten.
This type of tapeworm can pass through the intestines and affect many other organs, and is incurable once it reaches beyond a certain stage.

One in six people in the US and Canada has TRICHINOSIS from eating trichina worms, which are found in pork! Many people have NO SYMPTOMS to warn them of this, and when they do, they resemble symptoms of many other illnesses. These worms are NOT noticed during meat inspections.

NST, Singapore

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It is proven that pork meat is not healthy do you still think I am being fanatic.

[honestali]

If pork is so bad then why Allaha created it. What is the purpose of pork?

[sholay]

Honestali

Why did Allah create the universe, knowing full well mankind will never travel the full breadth?

Why did Allah create millions of insects which have no concern with humans?

Why did Allah create sealife which is so deep in the oceans that mankind has yet to see it?

The list can go on and on and on.

What you should learn is the difference between PONDERING over Allahs creation and QUESTIONING Allahs creation.

The Qur'aan states the following ayat especially for the likes of you:

044.038 We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, merely in (idle) sport:

044.039 We created them not except for just ends: but most of them do not understand.

024.045 And Allah has created every animal from water: of them there are some that creep on their bellies; some that walk on two legs; and some that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills for verily Allah has power over all things.

046.003 We created not the heavens and the earth and all between them but for just ends, and for a Term Appointed: But those who reject Faith turn away from that whereof they are warned.

031.010 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.

Moving onto pork:

005.004 Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine,.....

016.115 He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other than Allah has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

006.145 Say: "I find not in the message received by me by inspiration any (meat) forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be dead meat, or blood poured forth, or the flesh of swine,- for it is an abomination - or, what is impious, (meat) on which a name has been invoked, other than Allah’s". But (even so), if a person is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- thy Lord is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

If the above doesn't make any sense to you then I'm afraid your at the wrong forum!!

[Azad_Munna]

Originally posted by Ibrahim:
**Ibrahim says: Did you all know that LARD (pork fats) are used by bakery’s in the phillipines - have you checked what your bakery uses in its manufacture? **

ASAK Ibrahim

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In usa every item has ingredients printed on the label particularly type of oil (SHORTENING ) used .if it says vegetable shortening you are set .Fortunately due to cholesterol awareness more & more products are being cooked only in Vegetable shortening.

WE always check every box,container,bottle or restaurants for there shortening & it isnt hassel for we have never eaten non halal ever knowingly.

Good to see you religion !

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[Azad_Munna]

Originally posted by honestali:
If pork is so bad then why Allaha created it. What is the purpose of pork?

Honestali ,

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Not everything is created for eating ,u will agree.

Pig has other use on farm ,get rid of filthy stuff as scavengers.We dont eat cat ,horse,dog,bear ,& lots of animals but they are all created by god.May be someday they might help in heart transplant in which case it may still be non edible for us but o.k. to use the part to save life .Its just one possibiklity but not yet possible

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[Ali_R]

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Originally posted by honestali:
If pork is so bad then why Allaha created it. What is the purpose of pork?
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Vice Versa:
Why HINDU GODs created cows if you cant eat them?

As you said pork is so bad (for you aswell!) thats the reason why dont eat it.

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