Popular Historical lies of Indo-Pak History

Watching this video of Najam Sethi. He is of the view that Pakistan was the initiating party for all the four wars between Pakistan & India.

(1) In 1948 Pakistan sent tribal troops to Kashmir, which resulted two divisions of Kashmir. As per Mr Sethi, Pakistan made decision in hurry without knowing what were Indian government’s intention for Kashmir. (IMO Knowing Nehru’s affiliation for Kashmir and some irregularities in Division of borders in 1947, the issue was more complicated as assumed by Mr Sethi)

(2) As per Mr Sethi, 1965 War was based on Bhutto-Ayub plan to send some army troops in Indian occupied Kashmir to spread propaganda against India, and when Indian Government knew the situation they started war. Pakistan government was not prepared that India could attack on Lahore, as they thought that the war will be limited to Kashmir. Mr Sethi also refers to an interview of Mr Bhutto by Tariq Ali, where Mr Bhutto accepted that Pakistan initiated the war.

(3) 1971 war and fall of Dhaka - India did played role in it (through supporting Mukti Bahini), but it was also due to internal problems. On one hand,Pakistan armies crackdown in Eastern Pakistan (Bengla Desh) millions people migrated to Western Bengal (India) and on the other hand Pakistan opened its western borders

(4) Kargil war 1999

Kargil relate to Siyachin. In 1984, India occupied Siyachin when Pakistani troops were away from front due to severe winter season. Same happened to Kargil when Indian troops were away from Kargil due to winter. Comments about Nawaz Sharif and Musharraf are worth listening.

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nice sharing bro

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Thanks Ninja, but do share with us, how these issues are taught in schools of India. What is the over all perception of general public there.

in our school we are taught that our national policy is of peaceful co-existence.we faught only for defence of our country.

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Same is also being taught to us and we call 6th September (in memory of 1965 war) as Defense day. There used to be a holiday on this day, but now no holiday :teary2: :aj:

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Our history books (I studied in central board) closes history as soon as Goa is liberated in 1962, they know further teaching means justifying emergency even:D

India always held it nerves and made Pakistan aggressive, Pakistan always lost in the game of patience except in 1971. development before the first war led to the 47-48 war. Jinnah agreed to plebiscite in Junagarh thinking India would do same in kashmir, Sardar VallabhBhai Patel (Home minister of India) played the game masterly. Junagarh had somnath temple hence it was necessary, the only way to hold kashmir was to make it hang and never allow plebiscite to occur. Raja Hari singh who was thinking of keeping kashmir independent rightly played into the trap of Patel. Pakistan lost the patience and attacked giving him precisely what he wanted. He asked raja to accede to India and he would help, both parties promptly did so. India held entire Kashmir valley including Barfani Baba Bholenath of Amarnath

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We know about Somath thanks to Mehmood Ghaznavi, what is the importance of Barfani Baba Bholenath. Is it something related to Hanumaan

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Hanuman is 11th avatar of Bhagwan shiv, Amarnath is a place where Bhagwan Shiv gave DivyaBrahmgyan to Mata Parvati, she slept while listening to it but a rishi who was cursed to become a pigeon listened it, this is the place where Shivling of snow appears every year and then disappears in summer. It is called Amarnath Shrine.

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DivyaBrahmgyan? :confused: Ok, google told me about Amarkatha "the mystery behind immorality’ related to this cave and it says a pair of pigeon heard that and they become immortal.

So the reason behind the importance of Kashmir is of religious nature. One other reason for importance could be the rivers of Kashmir.

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It is the Gyan that makes Human eternal, The entire partition was settled in the favor of India:D, It is pure politics and something in which hindu pandits are master at. The main reason is strategic, Kashmir is hilly part of Himalaya, Jammu and Punjab are plains, to safeguard plains India needs Hills. Indus water treaty remained more or less functional even during the wars. Take all the disputes be it Kashmir or Sir Creek in Kutch, India has always been politically aggressive and made Pakistan to make errors which Pakistan always did giving India every edge over Pakistan strategically and politically.

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But sad part of the game is whoever claim to be winner, the eventual losers are the common people of both the countries, who have been deprived of from the basic necessities due to these unending wars.

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Interesting as always

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Actually, India had started the campaign around November 20th, 1971 in support of MB in the eastern sector. Pakistan's entrace in early december was just the "official start of the war".