Polytheism: in modern world

If we read the holy quran impartially it becomes clear that nothing is so often repeated as tauheed,condemnation of polytheism and belief in afterlife.
and the absence of belief in these things are described as the root cause of all evil

what are the forms of this polythesim in todays world?
those who consider the worldly life as everything and jest those speak of afterlife be considered as polytheist ?

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Democracy, the grandest form of polythiesm ever to be practiced.

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^ the system of caliphate was democracy too , but what you are refering to is actually a dictatorship of likemindedness ......this kind of pseudo-democracy plus capitalism are indeed the grts idols of today.

what is your suggestion bro to avoid them and what can we do to struggle against them ?

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I think we're in an era that is witnessing the advent of a polytheism of billions. Where we are told in effect that we are all gods, and have no need to respect His authority.

Modern conceptions of God are that of a non-judgmental peer, not the One who will arbitrate our ultimate destiny.

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The only thing common between Islamic form of Government and Democracy is that, the chosen governor/ruler...does not exercise sovereignty, and thats it.

In the Islamic system, sovereignty belongs to Allah alone and it is His revealed laws, described in the Quran and the Hadith, that are implemented.

Whereas in Democracy, sovereignty belongs to the masses of that land...and the laws of governing are devised in the Parliament by people who have been given exclusive rights to do so on behalf of those who voted for them.

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Correction. The Islamic system is mans' interpretation and what he thinks are God's laws. It's 1400 years later and there still isn't consensus. People want to make it sound as if these laws were from God's lips to our ears and they weren't.

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That's nice. Take any system that you don't like and brand it as an "idol". How the hell do you worship democracy or capitalism? Its like saying that people worshipped the idol of Kings in a time period where there were Kings and Queens. Then, was Solomon's government considered haraam by the same thought process?

We could have stood up and said oligarchy's are idols during the time period after the Prophet's death. That's what the leadership basically was. A group of Sahabas who were running the show for some decade. Why didn't we say Oligarchies are idols of that time? No, that would be stupid wouldn't it?

Just like its stupid to brand a modern system of running things as haraam because you've conveniently said its a "modern idol".

Idols are idols. Polytheism is a worship of many beings. Its not a worship of many government systems or of a economic philosophy. That's just silly, because there have been government systems and economic philosophies during the time of the Prophets (plural). And where did the Quran ever say any one particular system is haraam? Its not the system - its how the system gets executed. Its the crimes that happen within the system that need to be punished, but that doesn't mean you do away with the entire system!

Face it. The only reason you people are anti-democracy and anti-capitalism is because your people never invented it. It was the "whites" in your mind that invented it. Meanwhile, no one ever sits up and takes notice that the Prophet, within reason, did listen to what his people had to say to him and worked as a servant of the people and tried a people-oriented solution to solving problems (ex. Friday prayers as a way for people in the community to meet, speak up and address their issues to the congregation), which is PRECISELY THE SPIRIT of democracy.

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That is the essence of democracy in it's classic sense, although (as with many other things) modern Wetern politics has co-opted the term to mean something specific. What you are talking about is Jeffersonian democracy...which does not preclude the existence of other kinds.

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In the Islamic system, sovereignty belongs to Allah alone and it is His revealed laws, described in the Quran and the Hadith, that are implemented.

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I find no mention of this concept in any of the classic literature; I'd be grateful if you could point me the right way. I'm thinking all this talk is pretty much usurping Western thoughts on politics and grafting our own concepts onto them.

Historically, in practical terms sovereignty seemed to rest with the Caliph, where he could even (temporarily) suspend Allah's laws if the need was there.

Further, new laws don't come from Allah. Only a small subset of laws are revealed. All the rest need to be in a non-contradictory state with respect to this subset. Nor are all laws logically derived from the set of revealed laws (nor is it impermissible to define temporal laws that do not contradict core Shariah). So some amount of sovereignty does indeed lie with the people...