Re: Polygamy in the society
that is what american men want you to believe, look at the facts please, how much of US wealth belong to women 50%???....ok what is the percentage of women in congress? 50%? how many females were presidant of the united states?? ....westerners would like you to believe they practice gender equalities, but the only countries a little close to that are scandianvian ones, and they are still far from it.
It wont ever be 50 percent or even close to it, mainly because many women will chose to not work if they can help it. Its that simple. I'm not an advocate of every woman working. I'm an advocate of every woman having the choice of what to do with their lives and an advocate of the fact that there is much more to life than marriage and babies for women in general. But many women will indeed chose not to work, if given the choice to work, so the percentage will never be 50 percent. You should actually ask around and compare the percent of American women who feel like their dreams were totally ruined by sexism vs. the percent of women in Pakistan and other muslim countries. Then you can make a legit comparison. Since there is no survey I know of that has done this, then I would call on my experience. Here, there are opportunities. That is fact. In muslim countries, there are no opportunities for women usually (e.g. saudi and other arab countries), or at least they are limited in certain sectors. Pakistan is quite far ahead in comparison to its muslim counterparts, but even in Pakistan, women have defined roles in village culture, and if they transgress outside of those limits even though its not haraam, it is a big deal. You traveled the world, but there are many muslim women who would be shunned if they did anything like that. And meeting stranger male guppies tho duur ki baath hai.
Marriage is to have children, and to raise them in stability and piety, that is the motive if marriage! concerning money matter, I guess you will feed and shelter your children with piety
I agree with the first sentence. But to achieve piety, you don't need money. The Prophet was pretty poor througout his campaigns, so that's evidence for you. Raising children in stability, again the Prophet raised his children in not so stable environments, so I don't think stability is an absolute necessity for marraige. If your religion requires you to be in an unstable situation, then you need to live up to that. If you need to make sacrifices for God, then you need to do it, if you are to be a real muslim. Money factors in nowhere in all of this. Unless if you can show me some Quranic ayah where it says that money is a necessity that a man must have, then I'll think about changing my mind. Otherwise, I don't see how you can assume that money necessarily means more piety or more stability. I work with rich families currently, and I can tell you one thing. Money does not positively correlate with stablility. There is a such thing as greed. Even when you're making minimum wage.
aren't there already a lot of agressions towards female in our world? but most people are not polygamous! so in a perfect world maybe polygamy will lead to more tensions, but actually there are already a lot of tensions, so it is difficult to evaluate how much more problems would arise...
I'm talking about male versus male tensions. Not male versus female tensions. I would argue that there is already competition over females, where females get hurt, but that this competition would increase. The number of male vs. male fighting over a female interactions would increase and this would leave two victims. One would be the male, who lost. And the other might be the female, in the event that she is hurt during this competition. Therefore, overall aggression would increase. Have you ever seen two aggressive guys fight each other over a female? Its nasty.
there are a lot of brats in our western societies today, for example here in france where 80% women have a job, not a result of polygamy, but of working females (not all of them, but quite a lot) who don't care about their children and think that raising a kid can be done by showering them with money to replace their absence of love and care...
What you are talking about is a society in which most women are working, including those who can't manage it. Look, having a job, and taking care of little children at the same time is no easy task, nor is it meant for everyone, nor does Islam say every woman has to do it, nor does Islam prohibit any woman from doing it. All I'm saying, is that a woman does not have to depend upon her husband as her only financial crutch. Many women have their inheritance to rely on (i.e. father's money). Many woman have their own jobs to rely on, and they can manage to be good moms. Many women have previous jobs they've had before marriage to rely on and the money they earned from that and saved from that, which they might have invested. Many women may wait until their children are older to have jobs which they can rely on. Many women just don't have a lot of expenses, so they may not really need their husbands as much, because they can get by on a really small allowance from their husbands. Its not hard, you just have to control your own personal spending. Do you really need to fly around the world? Do you really need to have Godiva chocalates? etc etc. Many women, additionally work from home. I don't think the issue is either you have a polygamous society or a society where all women work and neglect their children. What happened to balance? Perhaps your society in france is a bit weird, I don't know because I haven't been to France. But I think if you look at how other societies work, they do function. And at least here in the States, people do what they want to. And yes, some parents don't raise their kids right. But its not just the mom's fault. What happened to the fatherly responsibility? Or does his responsibility end at sperm and credit cards?
I have no hate about men, and I am confident enough in my own value, so I don't need to own THE man as a trophee!
I don't think women in monogamous marriages hold their men as trophies necessarily, nor do I think that polygamous men necessarily do NOT hold their men as trophies.
Are you planning on marrying a married man, or helping your future husband find another wife? Just curious.
