Poll:Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

By Jackson Diehl
One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That’s why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

 The poll, conducted in November, may be something of an  embarrassment to Palestinian political leaders, who lately have been  insisting that Israel should stop expanding settlements in the eastern  half of Jerusalem -- in effect giving up any claim to it -- as a  precondition for the resumption of peace negotiations. This week the  demolition of a hotel in an Arab neighborhood in preparation for the  construction of Jewish housing prompted [fresh criticism of Israel from Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton](http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110109/pl_afp/israelpalestinianconflictjerusalemsettlersus), while a leaked memo from European Union diplomats stationed in the city proposed that EU governments recognize [East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-middle-east-12150792).


  The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East  Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The  survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department  Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said  they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution,  while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest  said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they  would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a  citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if  their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to  Palestine.

The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel’s jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state – and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country. The East Jerusalemites don’t much love Israel – they say they suffer from discrimination. But they seem to like what it has to offer. Remarkably, 56 percent said they traveled inside Israel at least once a week; 60 percent said access to its Mediterranean beaches was “very important” or “moderately important” to them.
“Quite clearly there is a discrepancy between people’s attitudes and the assumption that Palestinian neighborhoods should be part of Palestine,” said Pollock, whose work was sponsored by Pechter Middle East polls and the Council on Foreign Relations. “That’s not actually what the people want.”
It’s important to note that East Jerusalem Palestinians are different from West Bank or Gaza Palestinians – they live on Israel’s side of its West Bank barrier and hold “blue cards” that allow them access to Israeli jobs, health care, and welfare payments. Many are middle class by Middle Eastern standards – 44 percent of those surveyed had household incomes of more than $1,300 per month. Broadly, they resemble Israel’s Arab citizens, who have also been shown in polls to prefer remaining in Israel to joining a Palestinian state.

    The East Jerusalemites do have one thing in common with other  Palestinians, as well as Israelis: They are pessimistic about the  current peace process. More than 40 percent said that even if Israelis  and Palestinians signed a peace deal and East Jerusalem became the  capital of a new state, some Palestinian militants would certainly or  probably continue an armed struggle against Israel. And fully 64 percent  said it was very likely or somewhat likely that if the current  negotiations collapse, there will be a new intifada, or uprising by  Palestinians, including those in Jerusalem.


     The bottom line messages seem to be that peace talks are  essential to prevent violence, but that even success won't lead to total  peace; and that a lot of Palestinians would prefer to live near, but  not in, a Palestinian state.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/01/_one_of_the_givens.html

a bit surprising, maybe that 35% of palestinians prefer the security and stability they might feel living as israeli citizens

Re: Poll:Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

Entirely unsurprising, given the incompetence and corruption of the West Bank Palestinian Authority leadership.

Anyway, the more Palestinian who become Israeli citizens, the better. I personally feel that instead of a two-state solution, all Palestinians should simply become full Israeli citizens.

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The survey is referring only to Arab Palestinian's living in East Jerusalem, not the millions who live in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. So it would be misleading to state that 35% of all Palestinian's want to become Israeli citizens. Also, if I am not mistaken the Arab Palestinian's in East Jerusalem are already Israeli citizens so it isonly a question of their preference to remain so or become Palestine citizens?

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This..

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Aaah theres a Liberty....

PROPAGANDA!!!!

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right it is talking about palestinians of east jerusalem but what the article is showing is that an aam palestinian has different views and experiences based on all that they have been exposed to. the east jerusalem palestinian has actually been exposed to life as an isreali citizen and all the benefits that come with that status, good well paying jobs, good schools, security, access to healthcare as opposed to the palestinians stuck in the west bank and gaza. the issue isn’t as simple anymore.

the never ending palestinian-israeli peace process and discussions bring no fruitful conclusion or solutions. it’s more like this :frusty: for the aam palestinian so some like the east Jerusalemites choose a better life where they can take matters into their own hands and think about a successful future rather depend on corrupt politicians to give them that good future they crave

Re: Poll:Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

Exactly. One-state solution is a nightmare scenario for a state based on racism.
A single state which guarantees equal rights to all citizens is the death of Israeli Zionism.

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It is not surprising at all. Given that they know what Israel does to Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank, where the living conditions are pathetic and where Palestinians live as sub-human species by the racist Zionists. Actually Gaza is a huge prison camp and people are not even allowed to rebuild their houses destroyed in the last conflict.
So obviously, since the rest of Palestine has turned into a hell by the racist terrorist regime, the Palestinians in the regime itself consider themselves "lucky".

When you are given a choice between living as a third-class citizen of a racist country, and living in a prison camp with no access to food, medical aid, and no future; what would you prefer?

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And who is responsible for that situation in Gaza?

Some Palestinians preferring to live in Israel due to luxurious life, thanks to continued aid from America, is similar to some Jamaati Pakistanis preferring to live in the West, even when they despise it.

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the issue isn't as simple anymore.
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It's just your personal opinion. The issue is still quite simple to me.

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BTW, Nisha25, I just read that David Pollock of Pechter Polls is a senior fellow in Washington Institute for Near East Policy. And this institute was started by AIPAC, the nefarious Israeli lobby in America.

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) is a think tank based in Washington, D.C. focused on United States foreign policy in the Middle East. It was established by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in 1985.

How can you rely on a poll conducted by a pro-Zionist institute?

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as a nonmuslim it is sad to see the plight of the palestinians but i also see what great tragic event made jews want to get their own jewish homeland. I see the israeli palestinian situation as truly unsolvable, both sides refuse to give in so the palestinians like the east jerusalemites are finding a middle ground where they can get some benefits and be happy.

it's easy to live hundreds of miles away and support this cause when you aren't living the life of an aam palestinian- all the dangers that come with living that life, their life is tragic. for now since israel is so strong on it's stance, the best thing to do is what the east jerusalemite palestinians are doing which is still staying true to the cause but realizing that the jobs for themselves, schools for their kids and security of their future generations is of utmost importance.

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Who is responsible for this plight?
You don't need to tell us you are non-muslim. It is obvious when you call Palestine the Zionist "homeland".

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where did i call palestine the zionist homeland? the piece of land has an emotional connection for both israelis and palestinians. i prefer that palestinians have that security and no more of them die over something that seems neverending, no viable solutions seem to be forthcoming

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In this discussion, your original post has been left behind.
You did get the response you were looking for. Isn't it?
I don't want to make it a Israel-Palestine thread.

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This is fake....
many of my coworkers are Palestinians, some from Ghaza some from other parts... and they hate it, they will never become an Israeli citizen. they just get their "Israel ID" made, because without it they cannot travel to the parts where Israeli army is present, they cannot meet and help their relatives without having this ID, but they simply abhor it... this is propaganda