Poll reveals many feel women are responsible for being raped

Women ‘get blame for being raped’

BBC NEWS | UK | Women 'get blame for being raped'

A third of people believe a woman is partially or completely responsible for being raped if she has behaved flirtatiously, a survey suggests.

The Amnesty International poll of 1,000 people also found over 25% believe she is at least partly to blame if she has worn revealing clothing or been drunk.

Amnesty says the “shocking” findings show government policies are failing.

And the director of public prosecutions told the BBC the report “highlights some areas of real concern”.

Ken Macdonald QC, who is in charge of prosecutions in England and Wales, spoke to BBC Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour.

“The idea that a third of our people think that if a woman flirts she has only herself to blame if she is raped is, I think, quite shocking,” he said.

“These are jury trials. The jury is the community in the courtroom and it is reasonable to suppose the jury brings into the courtroom a lot of the attitudes we have been reading about.”

The Home Office says it has changed the law to try to improve conviction rates.

“We have made a number of changes to the legal system and to how the police and Crown Prosecution Service work, to put victims needs first and to make it easier for cases to get to trial and secure convictions,” a spokesman said.

Rape is an appalling crime and has a devastating effect on victims and those close to them. Nobody asks to be raped

Joanna Perry
Victim Support

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“We are determined to close the gap between the increasing number of rape cases reported and the low number of convictions.”

However, the Amnesty poll, carried out by ICM, found that most people in Britain had no idea how many women were raped every year in the UK or how few of the cases reported to police resulted in a conviction.

Almost all, 96%, said they either did not know the true extent of rape or thought it was far lower than the true figure. Just 4% thought the number of women raped exceeded 10,000.

The number of recorded rapes of women in 2004/5 was 12,867 - up 4% on the year before - although police estimate that just 15% of rapes come to their attention. Only 6% of reported rapes result in a conviction.

‘Disturbing attitudes’

Amnesty International UK director Kate Allen said the poll, part of its Stop Violence Against Women campaign, had uncovered “disturbing attitudes”.

She said: “It is shocking that so many people will lay the blame for being raped at the feet of women themselves and the government must launch a new drive to counteract this sexist ‘blame culture’.”

The research exposed the scale of public ignorance over rape as well as the “dreadfully low” conviction rates, she added.

“The government has an international duty to prevent this gross human rights violation yet it’s clear that the government’s policies on tackling rape are failing and failing badly.”

Joanna Perry, policy manager at Victim Support, said it was alarming to read that so many people appeared to believe that a woman was responsible for inviting a rape or sexual assault.

‘Devastating effect’

“Rape is an appalling crime and has a devastating effect on victims and those close to them. In other words, nobody asks to be raped,” she added.

And Ruth Hall, from the support group Women Against Rape, criticised “prejudices” in the court system.

“They still put the woman on trial, including her sexual history with other men, which is supposed to be banned and blame the woman for what happened to her and hold her accountable,” she said.

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little girls for example cannot be blamed if they’re raped :smack:

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Just go in religion forum and ull find many sickos like that :)

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I find it absolutely appalling that people think this way. You avert the eyes and have self control if you see something that stimulates you. Or simply leave the scene.

Rape is an act of control/power. I cant believe so many people think this way. shocked

Whats worse is, I dont think many men will change their minds about this, no matter how informed they become on the matter.

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Not just the religion forum my dear.

Women deserve what happens to them cause of the way they dress. If you wear an abaya/hijab and still get raped, you deserve it anyway for leaving the house in the first place. If you get raped in your home, well then I’m sure there will be some way to blame the woman for enticing the man some how. :rolleyes:

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If non-Muslim, non-desis feel this way, imagine how desis/Muslims would view this.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=3697775&postcount=30

And this coming from another woman.. :frowning:

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hey am i right when i say that the people that decide on shariyah laws are all ...ahem ..."men" ?

who benefits most by such laws?...ahem....men?

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Lets start again and READ the article

and then go back read it again properly
First of all they didnt just ask women... they asked peopel from all walks of life, ages life experience cultures religions etc

NOT EVERYONE WILL AGREE WITH EACH OTHER EVER
*A third of people believe a woman is partially or completely responsible for being raped if she has behaved flirtatiously, a survey suggests. *

*The Amnesty International poll of 1,000 people also found over 25% believe she is at least partly to blame if she has worn revealing clothing or been drunk. *

To summerise approx 3 in ten people surveyed (they anly spoke to about a thousand or so) said its ok if she behaved in a flirty manner

and a bit over a quarter said if she'd worn revealing clothes

To be honest, from what Ive read in other threads even the "moderate" people on this site may agree.

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This is a sad Thred,

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What kills me and I find it absolutely appalling is that the western media says that "being drunk is not a crime but rape is" - since a lot of girls get raped when they're drunk or high on drugs and therefore not in their right senses. Instead of telling them drinking and drugs are wrong and bad, they go on to say its ok to drink and get piss drunk in public where wierdos are lurking around. Infact that statement "being drunk is not a crime but rape is" is in my current Glamour magazine. So if I got raped when I was drunk, I would feel partially responsible.

But that is just one aspect of the whole debate that I wanted to highlight.

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^ Because they want to stress the fact that even if ur drunk, the guy (if he's in his right senses) is every bit responsible as well.. i mean i c ur point but i kinda c the point behind their statement as well... i do think ur right tho.

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Just visit the ogling thread in culture .. rape might not be justified but it's the same line of thought.

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Sara living in a country where rape stats are so high, women like me constantly live in fear of being attacked/mugged so I dont want to downplay the evilness in rape. Like I said, that was just one aspect of it ... in that situation, I would feel partially responsible. Not having control over your nafs is haraam.

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ahmadjee, ogling might be an extremely lesser degree of rape, but i still dont' find it as bad as rape itsself. and the reason they say rape is a crime but drugs aren't is because they dont want to say "getting drunk is a crime as well" because ppl wud think that they're condemning the girls..

Last night i was reading a post in religion last night from anothergirl guppy saying that if a woman is dressed a certain way and she gets raped, then she wont feel sorry for her and she deserves it.. (then again being dressed and not in ur right senses due to drugs/alcohol r kinda different) and that pissed me and several ppl off..

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^ yeah see I dont really agree with the slutty dressing part. Although I have been out with a friend who dresses very skimpy and gets loads of wolf whistles n stuff, but she likes that sort of thing.

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Well, again, i think whistling, catcalls, etc etc are on a low low level.. like u said, there r grlz who enjoy that kinda thing (God knows why :rolleyes: ).. i think if u dress a certain way, don’t blame the guy if htey look and holler and whatnot, but when it comes to rape, that is a whole other evil that cannot compare to a dirty look. Rape is basically murder for the soul… But i think when it comes to getting drunk or on drugs, THEN, and i know i mite get jumped for saying this, but she needs to take responsibility as well, because she is stupidly endangering herself by using mind/mood altering stimulation..

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Ahh the interrelatedness of things, ogling, whistling, catcalls, skimpy dresses, drinking and the irony of not having control over your nafs.

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There are things girls can do to minimize the risk of rape, which I don't see a lot of girls these days doing. Esp. the partying kind.

And I'm NOT talking about dress. I'm talking about getting high, or drunk. If you chose to knock out your senses, then don't sit there and cry when something crazy happens to you. Granted, the rapist is still at fault and needs to be punished. But the girl is also responsible for putting herself at a high risk situation in the first place.

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I cant wait to read that one guy got raped by another woman or gang raped. How did he feel about it? Lets see wearing shorts, was he striping, or showing off his body by wearing ladies underwear?

IDIOTS.

I hate these surveys they are never right.

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but mentally disabled women have never control over themselves!
they are not responsible of getting raped!
no women is!!
only the raper is responsible for the rape and no one else!