PMLN's U-Turns and Undemocratic Actions

[Jolie]

Re: PMLN’s U-Turns and Undemocratic Actions

@arshad5

First of all I don’t know who did rigging of votes I suspect a few parties may have. However I still think that PML N would have emerged as the single biggest party with or without absolute majority, Imran Khan would still not have been a Prime Minister. The reason for the 4 constituencies not being opened up could be as the decision rests with the election tribunal or the courts. Other reason could be fear by PML N that it is being targeted by PTI unfairly and where will it stop. After the 4 will PTI demand 40 constituencies being opened up, and after that mid term polls. Why is there no mention of vote rigging by MQM for instance. If the incorrect ink was used as you mentioned earlier then the **truth is that we will not know how many votes are bogus which does not necessarily mean vote rigging but it could be presented as such. **

As far as governance is concerned, PPP was much worse and why was Imran Khan quiet at the time, now governance is much better, many projects are in the pipeline that should address a lot of problems in the country. However you cannot demand mid term polls just because you don’t like how the government conducts itself. They are entitled to remain in power until 2018.

Do you know what you are talking about? Please don’t present your lack of information as truth. Little knowledge is very dangerous. So far, they have opened up 11 constituencies (correct me if I’m wrong) where bogus votes are being counted in tens of thousands. I suggest you do a little research on all investigated constituencies and find out what vote rigging and bogus votes really look like. I’ll give you a little example to start you off, below the is the result from only preliminary investigation of NA-118:

Electoral fraud: NADRA finds rigging in records of NA-118

**LAHORE: **The National Database Registration Authority (NADRA) has found rigged votes in the record of ballot papers from NA-118, Lahore, The Express Tribune has learnt.

According to a report submitted by the authority to the election tribunal, the record of only 68 of 251 polling stations in the constituency were provided to NADRA. The total number of votes here was 46,118 and only 15,835 voters’ thumbprints were verified.
NADRA’s report added that 4,043 votes were found to be cast against invalid CNIC numbers, and NADRA states that identity cards with these numbers were never issued by the authority

I hope you know that PTI candidates have also been de-seated according to investigation results. If Imran is asking for a re-poll, don’t you think he doesn’t know that many black sheep within his party would also lose their seats? After all, 418 anti rigging cases have been filed by all political parties. It’s about setting a right precedent to establish a correct system. Once re-polling (be it local or national) becomes the next step in case of legally verified rigging, many status quo and criminal politicians would think twice before rigging people’s votes after knowing the imminent possibility of re-polling which would not just result in losing of seat, but a complete cancelling of their political licence.

The reason for the 4 constituencies not being opened up could be as the decision rests with the election tribunal or the courts. Other reason could be fear by PML N that it is being targeted by PTI unfairly and where will it stop

If the decision rests with the courts, then why is PMLN’s giving Imran the guarantee that they will now open 10 consistencies for him? If they have won fair and square then what are they afraid of? Why didn’t they prove Imran Khan wrong and damaged his credibility by opening up those four constituencies, assuming they have nothing to hide? This simple gesture of opening four constituencies and subsequent positive findings would’ve regained people’s trust in the system, present day democracy and reinforced the legitimacy of Nawas government. But as they say, a lie has no legs.

First of all I don’t know who did rigging of votes I suspect a few parties may have. However I still think that PML N would have emerged as the single biggest party with or without absolute majority, Imran Khan would still not have been a Prime Minister.

That’s irrelevant. The fight is against rigging and for free and fair elections. Not to win a majority or earn premiership.

Just because some polls predicted NS win, doesn’t mean PTI has no right to speak up against rigging.

However you cannot demand mid term polls just because you don’t like how the government conducts itself.

True. But you can certainly demand mid term polls if you can prove that the government enjoys a stolen mandate, hence illegal. More power to PTI if they can prove this.

As far as governance is concerned, PPP was much worse and why was Imran Khan quiet at the time, now governance is much better, many projects are in the pipeline that should address a lot of problems in the country. However you cannot demand mid term polls just because you don’t like how the government conducts itself.

You are still struggling, are you? This is what I mean that Imran has successfully and commendably turned an empty rhetoric into a fierce ideological battle. Either people are rising up and taking a ‘never again’ attitude to rigging, and striving for direct solution or there are people sitting on the fence or sitting with the devil, doing everything possible to trivialize rigging - the biggest crime you against democracy and complete abuse of the rights of enfranchised citizens - all in the name of democracy. I can’t look past this painful hypocrisy.

No, the ultimate battle is against rigging, dynastic nepotism, bad governance, civil dictatorship, abuse of institutions. All these factors get lum put together to highlight what happens when people don’t stand up for their rights and fight for true democracy.